jason Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 I know there are varying opinions on whether the Bears should spend the #3 pick on a QB. I also know there are a ton of mocks that have the QBs going all over the place. Often I've seen a "top 3" QB drop into the second round. Assuming the Bears pass on QB in the 1st, and one of the top 3 QBs slide, is it a guarantee that the Bears pick said QB if he fell to them? If somehow Trubisky (highly unlikely), Watson (unlikely), or Kizer (fairly unlikely) fell to the Bears in the 2nd round, I think it's a 100% guarantee that the Bears would have to draft said QB. Agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scs787 Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Unless they are in love with a guy like Webb or Peterman, I would say yes. I would throw Mahomes in that discussion as well in the 2R. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killakrzydav Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 Only one of those three in the second. I don't want a mediocre Malhomes or such in the second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madlithuanian Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 I would tend to also think we go D in the first, then go QB next. However, I do see a possible move up...especially if a few of those names are still sitting there. I know there are varying opinions on whether the Bears should spend the #3 pick on a QB. I also know there are a ton of mocks that have the QBs going all over the place. Often I've seen a "top 3" QB drop into the second round. Assuming the Bears pass on QB in the 1st, and one of the top 3 QBs slide, is it a guarantee that the Bears pick said QB if he fell to them? If somehow Trubisky (highly unlikely), Watson (unlikely), or Kizer (fairly unlikely) fell to the Bears in the 2nd round, I think it's a 100% guarantee that the Bears would have to draft said QB. Agree? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted March 13, 2017 Report Share Posted March 13, 2017 I know there are varying opinions on whether the Bears should spend the #3 pick on a QB. I also know there are a ton of mocks that have the QBs going all over the place. Often I've seen a "top 3" QB drop into the second round. Assuming the Bears pass on QB in the 1st, and one of the top 3 QBs slide, is it a guarantee that the Bears pick said QB if he fell to them? If somehow Trubisky (highly unlikely), Watson (unlikely), or Kizer (fairly unlikely) fell to the Bears in the 2nd round, I think it's a 100% guarantee that the Bears would have to draft said QB. Agree? I think we will draft one of those QB's and might trade-up to get them. Kizer will probably be there (unless he has a great pro-day). Mahomes is the other name not listed who I think we will be looking at in the 2nd round. Watson seems like a guy we like a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I no longer think we'll make a trade up from our 2nd Rd pick into the 1st Rd for a QB. Pace is pretty committed to Glennon as the starter. If any of the top 3 listed are there in the 2nd Rd then I think you are right, we might take one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I no longer think we'll make a trade up from our 2nd Rd pick into the 1st Rd for a QB. Pace is pretty committed to Glennon as the starter. If any of the top 3 listed are there in the 2nd Rd then I think you are right, we might take one. The first 3 QB prospects are large question marks to be drafted at the front end of the draft. None will make it out of the first round, they will be over drafted. I look at Draftcoundown for some of my information on the draft. He has Kizer rated 18th Trubisky is 31th Watson is 36th Mahones is 41 Webb is 88 Kaaya is 93 Peterman is 142 Dont know about the rest but I think the first three are realistic So from what I read, Webb and Perterman has got some scouts thinking. So I propose we wait into the 3rd round and try to get Perterman or Webb and hope one develop. The frist 3 have more upside, but the their value does not match a high pick in one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 The first 3 QB prospects are large question marks to be drafted at the front end of the draft. None will make it out of the first round, they will be over drafted. I look at Draftcoundown for some of my information on the draft. He has Kizer rated 18th Trubisky is 31th Watson is 36th Mahones is 41 Webb is 88 Kaaya is 93 Peterman is 142 Dont know about the rest but I think the first three are realistic So from what I read, Webb and Perterman has got some scouts thinking. So I propose we wait into the 3rd round and try to get Perterman or Webb and hope one develop. The frist 3 have more upside, but the their value does not match a high pick in one. 45 days until draft day and it is anybodys guess what the Bears do. I will say this is the first year I am completely lost on trying to guess. FA didnt go as I expected and the draft will probably follow suit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 45 days until draft day and it is anybodys guess what the Bears do. I will say this is the first year I am completely lost on trying to guess. FA didnt go as I expected and the draft will probably follow suit. Pace the last two years chased high end free agents but would only go so high before it became to risky to pay big money. I personally dont think Gilmore or Bouye are worth their contracts but would still like to have seen one,but Pace is bend on building through the draft and has set values on free agents. I think once we are ready to make the leap and need a few players to get over the hump, he will pay the big money. we are just at least one ,probably two years away from that moment. Every good team has gotten there by drafting well, we are trying to become one of those teams. I think the jury is still out, but if White comes through this year, and we have another good draft, then I would say we are on our way to being one of those teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 I no longer think we'll make a trade up from our 2nd Rd pick into the 1st Rd for a QB. Pace is pretty committed to Glennon as the starter. If any of the top 3 listed are there in the 2nd Rd then I think you are right, we might take one. Pace has to say he is committed to Glennon as the starter (anything otherwise would basically give you no leverage if you want to move around in the draft). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lemonej Posted March 14, 2017 Report Share Posted March 14, 2017 The second tier of prospects is where the Bears are probably targeting with Glennon as a 2 year window to this prospect. My second tier is Mahomes, Webb, Kaaya and Peterman are in this group IMO. Peterman because the staff worked with him and could see if what they showed him translated on the field at the Senior Bowl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bradjock Posted March 16, 2017 Report Share Posted March 16, 2017 I know there are varying opinions on whether the Bears should spend the #3 pick on a QB. I also know there are a ton of mocks that have the QBs going all over the place. Often I've seen a "top 3" QB drop into the second round. Assuming the Bears pass on QB in the 1st, and one of the top 3 QBs slide, is it a guarantee that the Bears pick said QB if he fell to them? If somehow Trubisky (highly unlikely), Watson (unlikely), or Kizer (fairly unlikely) fell to the Bears in the 2nd round, I think it's a 100% guarantee that the Bears would have to draft said QB. Agree? Agreed 100%. Last year at this time we were hearing rumors about the top 2 QB's moving up. That ain't happening this year. I think we all agree we'd love to see the Bears get Trubisky, Keizer, or Watson in round #2. Except Cleveland and San Fran fans are thinking the same thing. It ain't happening. And we don't have the ammo to move up. It's much easier to move around on the 2nd day. Last year we moved down and drafted Cody Whitehair. I could easily see us moving down to take Kaaba, Peterman, or Mahomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bschmaranz Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 McShay's latest mock at ESPN doesn't have Kizer even going in the first round. If we could snag Adams or someone at 3 and a QB like Kizer in the 2nd, that'd be pretty intriguing. Certainly would make up for these free agency fumbles. EDIT: Kiper's mock has Kizer going unselected in the first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted March 18, 2017 Report Share Posted March 18, 2017 McShay's latest mock at ESPN doesn't have Kizer even going in the first round. If we could snag Adams or someone at 3 and a QB like Kizer in the 2nd, that'd be pretty intriguing. Certainly would make up for these free agency fumbles. EDIT: Kiper's mock has Kizer going unselected in the first. I'd be ok with that. I hear rumblings of Trubisky or Watson though. Pace has a two year crush on Watson and really likes Trubisky this year. I can see him going elsewhere now with Glennon too. I see them set up now to go QB Watson/Trubisky, CB Lattimore, S Adams/Hooker, or OLB Thomas/Reddick with #1. edit: I have been mixed up on John Jenkins and John Hankins, smh. Hankins would have eliminated a 5T need, Jenkins is depth at NT like others have said. Might still want Allen who can play that, unless they can still sign Hankins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawhizz Posted March 19, 2017 Report Share Posted March 19, 2017 I've been watching some Mahomes games and I have to say - he terrifies me. He definitely has the best arm talent in the draft. Some of the throws he makes are unreal. But his mechanics are frequently awful. Throws off his back foot. Backpedaling from pressure. Throwing with both feet off the ground. Blind throws. The Jay Cuyler comparisons are concerning and completely warranted, except that Cutler was more pro-ready because he came from an offense much more similar to an NFL offense. You watch the receivers in the Texas Tech and they are frequently wide open. There's a 5% chance Mahomes is Aaron Rodgers 2.0, but there's so much work to do with him and so many ways it can go wrong.v Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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