50england50 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 What a comeback. Caleb has been fantastic and I will say we definitely win tonight. Watching in the UK so might be behind the game. Just watching the coin toss😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50england50 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 A long time since we have had an offense put together the performance we've seen in the last 2 drives. Might be looking better because I've been hitting the Jack Daniels tonight 🤣🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 24, 2024 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 There is zero doubt, absolutely zero doubt that Caleb Williams is elite, and a franchise QB. He just torched the Vikings vaunted defense for 330 passing yards and 2 TDs while scoring on back to back drives in less than 30 seconds. Unbelievable poise. Regardless of the outcome, we have our QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50england50 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 Missed the first 3 plays of over time and shocked we we re facing a 3rd and 26 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 To many small mistakes to make up for but cant deny the fight in team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 24, 2024 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 The Flus defense is now all fluff. 4-man that gets no pressure with coverage that plays off? Hilariously bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50england50 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 Worst drive by the defense came in overtime. What a shame. I thought we would get the win after we got the game into overtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
50england50 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 I think the NFL know we have a franchise QB. I hope the management don't mess it up by not putting everything around him to win including the head coach and their staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 We come back and in overtime get the coinflip. We have momentium and Caleb holds the ball to long and takes a sack,gets us in a hole we cant climb out of. This is what rookie QBs do shows greatness and ends the game with 2 mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 24, 2024 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 On 11/24/2024 at 9:42 PM, Stinger226 said: We come back and in overtime get the coinflip. We have momentium and Caleb holds the ball to long and takes a sack,gets us in a hole we cant climb out of. This is what rookie QBs do shows greatness and ends the game with 2 mistakes. Expand That was absolutely on Caleb, but where is the dump off, hot route, no one open. He is forced to be Superman. That is going to happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 Lots of things to look at but that returned punt mistake was the play that sealed it for us. We are just not good enough to overcome a handful of flubs. Om the positive side CW has greatness on the horizon and didnt see anyone laying down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 On 11/24/2024 at 9:43 PM, adam said: That was absolutely on Caleb, but where is the dump off, hot route, no one open. He is forced to be Superman. That is going to happen. Expand That's when a veteran would have thrown it away. They had max protect called. Caleb is going to be the bomb one day but we arent good enough with our roster and definitley will be getting a new coach. You guys do realize if we were winning these games Flus would be coming back. Its a double edged sword. This game seals his fate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 24, 2024 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 On 11/24/2024 at 9:45 PM, Stinger226 said: Lots of things to look at but that returned punt mistake was the play that sealed it for us. We are just not good enough to overcome a handful of flubs. Om the positive side CW has greatness on the horizon and didnt see anyone laying down. Expand Yeah, pretty much. Also, if they just went for the XP, that last second FG would've won it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 On 11/24/2024 at 9:51 PM, adam said: Yeah, pretty much. Also, if they just went for the XP, that last second FG would've won it. Expand A handful of mistakes always sinks us. We just arent good enough yet. But the QB is on the rise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 24, 2024 Author Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 Allen was targeted 15 times in the loss. He may be a problem. Moore was targeted 7 times for 7 receptions. Kmet had 10 targets and 7 receptions. In the 5 straight losses, Allen has 56 targets, 24 receptions, 1 TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted November 24, 2024 Report Share Posted November 24, 2024 What continues to kill us is giving up 3rd down conversations when the odds are hugely in our favor. I believe we gave up four with 10+ yards to go. Our pass rush is terrible and that hurts our secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luciano Posted November 25, 2024 Report Share Posted November 25, 2024 On 11/24/2024 at 8:56 PM, adam said: If it wasn't the Bears it is probably a good idea. If you get it, you can win with a TD+XP or tie with 2x FGs. If you don't get it, you can still tie with a TD+2PT. Expand no, it is a BAD idea. you always take the points unless time and score dictate. to give up a field goal from where they were at in the THIRD QUARTER is criminally stupid. that call is the assumption that your opponent will never score again in a quarter and a half. we got beat every way possible: the other teams play, our poor play and penalties, BAD coaching, the REFS. this is a shite show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted November 25, 2024 Report Share Posted November 25, 2024 On 11/25/2024 at 12:06 AM, Lucky Luciano said: no, it is a BAD idea. you always take the points unless time and score dictate. to give up a field goal from where they were at in the THIRD QUARTER is criminally stupid. that call is the assumption that your opponent will never score again in a quarter and a half. we got beat every way possible: the other teams play, our poor play and penalties, BAD coaching, the REFS. this is a shite show. Expand THIS. If we had simply kicked the extra point, and everything else had been the same, we win in regulation. Our coaching is the worst. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted November 25, 2024 Report Share Posted November 25, 2024 On 11/24/2024 at 9:18 PM, adam said: There is zero doubt, absolutely zero doubt that Caleb Williams is elite, and a franchise QB. He just torched the Vikings vaunted defense for 330 passing yards and 2 TDs while scoring on back to back drives in less than 30 seconds. Unbelievable poise. Regardless of the outcome, we have our QB. Expand YES Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted November 25, 2024 Report Share Posted November 25, 2024 On 11/25/2024 at 1:06 AM, BearFan PHX said: THIS. If we had simply kicked the extra point, and everything else had been the same, we win in regulation. Our coaching is the worst. Expand In fairness they wouldn’t have went for 2 - so it would have been a tie either way. You want to question a move question when they went for it on 4th. Not that I understood why they went for 2 early in the game. They outplayed Minny all game but had some costly 3rd down drops..a Keenan toes drop a great play and than a stupid muffed punt and some tough PI’s when Bears didn’t get the call (Odunze on the Moore pass was a total PI). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted November 25, 2024 Report Share Posted November 25, 2024 I hear ya, but its just another inexplicable Matt Eberflus move. I also agree they should have kicked the field goal instead of going for it on 4th down. Caleb is obviously going to be a real star - lets give him a real coach, and lets let that coach pick his staff without the Bears forcing him to retain anyone. If he chooses to retain people, great, but thats gotta be his decision 100%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 25, 2024 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2024 On 11/25/2024 at 6:57 AM, BearFan PHX said: I hear ya, but its just another inexplicable Matt Eberflus move. I also agree they should have kicked the field goal instead of going for it on 4th down. Caleb is obviously going to be a real star - lets give him a real coach, and lets let that coach pick his staff without the Bears forcing him to retain anyone. If he chooses to retain people, great, but thats gotta be his decision 100%. Expand How about launching Hightower with him. Blocked FGs in back to back games? Terrible coverage and return units. Almost always a penalty on kicks/punts, and then the muffed punt. What exactly is Hightower getting paid to do? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucky Luciano Posted November 25, 2024 Report Share Posted November 25, 2024 On 11/25/2024 at 1:25 PM, adam said: How about launching Hightower with him. Blocked FGs in back to back games? Terrible coverage and return units. Almost always a penalty on kicks/punts, and then the muffed punt. What exactly is Hightower getting paid to do? Expand some of this has to go on santos. yesterdays for sure. he is not getting the elevation to his kicks and they are being blocked at the line of scrimmage. that is totally unacceptable. it's all in the 40's range just like it was two? years ago when he was all over the place. he has now cost us 2 games. hot and cold seasons seem to be his norm. that said, it is also on the coaching staff. flus for not trying to gain a few yards more with johnson in the packer game. at least this game is on hightower for not realizing the problem with his kicker and practicing it ALL week to change his trajectory. it is also on hightower for not getting the special teams linemen all on the same page in blocking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted November 25, 2024 Author Report Share Posted November 25, 2024 On 11/25/2024 at 1:36 PM, Lucky Luciano said: some of this has to go on santos. yesterdays for sure. he is not getting the elevation to his kicks and they are being blocked at the line of scrimmage. that is totally unacceptable. it's all in the 40's range just like it was two? years ago when he was all over the place. he has now cost us 2 games. hot and cold seasons seem to be his norm. that said, it is also on the coaching staff. flus for not trying to gain a few yards more with johnson in the packer game. at least this game is on hightower for not realizing the problem with his kicker and practicing it ALL week to change his trajectory. it is also on hightower for not getting the special teams linemen all on the same page in blocking. Expand Oh absolutely, he has a low trajectory from distance but this is not something new. Watch the MIN GWFG, the OL actually gets push and protects the flight of the ball. The Bears guys are flat footed and get run over. They need to be attacking. I have no idea why they are not trying to push forward and engage vs waiting to get bulled over. The same with the muffed punt and penalty on ST. There are about 10-15 ST snaps a game. The Bears can't afford to have 3-4 negative plays a game on those snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChileBear Posted November 25, 2024 Report Share Posted November 25, 2024 On 11/25/2024 at 1:49 PM, adam said: Oh absolutely, he has a low trajectory from distance but this is not something new. Watch the MIN GWFG, the OL actually gets push and protects the flight of the ball. The Bears guys are flat footed and get run over. They need to be attacking. I have no idea why they are not trying to push forward and engage vs waiting to get bulled over. The same with the muffed punt and penalty on ST. There are about 10-15 ST snaps a game. The Bears can't afford to have 3-4 negative plays a game on those snaps. Expand All falls on Flus. It is his staff for ST and he's responsible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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