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[Stinger226]

55 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

funny. you didnt post tape, you posted stats.

Im saying YOU should look at the tape.

Kmet is decent but not great. He doesnt get open vs man coverage, either by moves or west coast style body position. He is stiff, and in only open when there is a hole in the zone.

Why do you think his targets are low? Because he isnt open. Yes, he can catch the ball when he is open and you throw it to him. A lot of guys can. But he isnt worth what we are paying him, especially now with Loveland on the roster.

Time will tell.

I posted tape 9 entries ago on this post. I dont think any team in the league has blue chip players at very position on their teams. I agree he is a good player and not great. Out of his 47 catches he had 8 contested catches. He is wide open on 80% of  his catches. Had the highest catch rate with TEs in the league 2 yrs in a row. The bottom line is how long will the bears keep him? I say he plays out his contract. 

Which teams we played last yr played mostly man against us? 

[BearFan PHX]

18 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

I posted tape 9 entries ago on this post. I dont think any team in the league has blue chip players at very position on their teams. I agree he is a good player and not great. Out of his 47 catches he had 8 contested catches. He is wide open on 80% of  his catches. Had the highest catch rate with TEs in the league 2 yrs in a row. The bottom line is how long will the bears keep him? I say he plays out his contract. 

Which teams we played last yr played mostly man against us? 

The stats are painting the wrong picture.

You say he is wide open on 80% of his catches. You also say he has low targets.

This means he doesnt get open often. It means when a defense fails, he is WIDE open and can catch. ANYONE who is wide open can catch. But he doesnt get open enough.

Apparently we DO have a blue chip TE now. So why pay TE2 $11.6M a year when you have so many mouths to feed on offense anyway? You can get a cheaper inline TE2 and improve the team in other ways.

The only reason you want to keep him is that once someone is on the team, you ALWAYS want to keep them. To you, someone on the team is family, and someone who isnt currently on the team is not. But maybe youd love a different player we could get with that money on the defensive line?

Kmet doesnt suck, but we are paying him too much, and those resources could do more good for us somewhere else. Thats why I think we will trade him next year or this year at the deadline.

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[BearFan PHX]

FWIW, i dont think the Bears are shopping Kmet. My prediction was next year, or at the trade deadline this year.

[Stinger226]

4 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

FWIW, i dont think the Bears are shopping Kmet. My prediction was next year, or at the trade deadline this year.

I dont think you want him gone but after Loveland is up to speed, get rid of the contract. I think he will be used as part of the offensive plan and stay until his contract is up. 2027. You nevere know when an injury pops up, so lets say they do trade him and a couple games later Loveland gets hurt. Totally would screw up the offensive scheme. They arent going to have cap problems until Caleb is up for a contract . All of these contracts except for DJ end in 2027.

[Stinger226]

Today Ozzie was taken reps on the left side. So at least their thinking about putting him there. 

I also seen a podcast  that was talking about Henderson being available and we took him at 39, would we still draft Burden at 41?

[BearFan PHX]

2 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

I dont think you want him gone but after Loveland is up to speed, get rid of the contract. I think he will be used as part of the offensive plan and stay until his contract is up. 2027. You nevere know when an injury pops up, so lets say they do trade him and a couple games later Loveland gets hurt. Totally would screw up the offensive scheme. They arent going to have cap problems until Caleb is up for a contract . All of these contracts except for DJ end in 2027.

yes, youre right.

however, Kmet will never be able to do what Loveland does, so if Loveland gets hurt, Kmet cant really fill his role anyway?

The best argument for Kmets role on this team, in my opinion, is the 2 TE sets.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

4 hours ago, Stinger226 said:

I dont think you want him gone but after Loveland is up to speed, get rid of the contract. I think he will be used as part of the offensive plan and stay until his contract is up. 2027. You nevere know when an injury pops up, so lets say they do trade him and a couple games later Loveland gets hurt. Totally would screw up the offensive scheme. They arent going to have cap problems until Caleb is up for a contract . All of these contracts except for DJ end in 2027.

They have tons of cap space and have a player who is still ascending. Having two good tight ends is a multiplier and creates unique match up dynamics for defenses. When you combine that with the wideout crew and a bright offensive mind - you can create match up problems all over the field. Why the heck should the Bears cut someone or trade them and get rid of that. Kmet and Loveland are so complimentary and if you go big you put Loveland out wide and destroy them and you can also run…you can also spread the field and have Loveland out there for size and than shrink and run or use Loveland as a match up. 
 

We finally have real unique skill sets all over the field and people want to trade two of them so we can go back to being mediocre at skill position level - screw that - Bears have massive cap space - pile up as much damn talent as possible. 

[BearFan PHX]

37 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

They have tons of cap space and have a player who is still ascending. Having two good tight ends is a multiplier and creates unique match up dynamics for defenses. When you combine that with the wideout crew and a bright offensive mind - you can create match up problems all over the field. Why the heck should the Bears cut someone or trade them and get rid of that. Kmet and Loveland are so complimentary and if you go big you put Loveland out wide and destroy them and you can also run…you can also spread the field and have Loveland out there for size and than shrink and run or use Loveland as a match up. 
 

We finally have real unique skill sets all over the field and people want to trade two of them so we can go back to being mediocre at skill position level - screw that - Bears have massive cap space - pile up as much damn talent as possible. 

its a good argument, and it hinges on how good Kmet will be. I think we all agree he will get a chance to show what he can do, so if he is really a problem for defenses, and a multiplier he will get his chance to show it.

But in no way am I on board with trading DJ Moore. THAT guy is a player. He wasnt so well behaved last year, but i think he hates losing. I'm OK with that. Just like Stevenson, they get a blank slate this year. Eberflus deserves the blame for their sins, these players get a new start.

But i still think, based on my belief of what level Kmet really is, that he wont be around next year, or maybe at the trade deadline. But if he plays differently, or johnson puts him situations to succeed and he proves himself, then you are right we will probably keep him.