Camp tidbits

[Bears4Ever_34]

I haven't heard anything out of camp this year that feels any different than in year's past. It's always the same story about the struggling offense and quarterback. There's still a few weeks left to turn a corner, and maybe they will after the install period is over later this week, but the vibes don't feel great to me with the quarterback. Way too many delays of games and lack of anticipatory throws.

[AZ54]

2 hours ago, Bears4Ever_34 said:

I haven't heard anything out of camp this year that feels any different than in year's past. It's always the same story about the struggling offense and quarterback. There's still a few weeks left to turn a corner, and maybe they will after the install period is over later this week, but the vibes don't feel great to me with the quarterback. Way too many delays of games and lack of anticipatory throws.

I have.  My sense is this is the most talented group we’ve had at the skill positions in a very long time.  It’s been two weeks of practice and for some rookies just one week.  I’m not worried about the Oline because most of those issues appear to be communication.  Experience will iron out the wrinkles. 

[Mongo3451]

2 hours ago, AZ54 said:

I have.  My sense is this is the most talented group we’ve had at the skill positions in a very long time.  It’s been two weeks of practice and for some rookies just one week.  I’m not worried about the Oline because most of those issues appear to be communication.  Experience will iron out the wrinkles. 

Same.  From culture alone, it's been night and day from what we've seen in over a decade. 

Watching GMFB this morning, they were so concerned with 2019 Lamar Jackson being inaccurate in camp.  That led to his MVP.  Then, they talked Jamar Chase dropping a ton of ball in practice, which led to an All Pro season.  

I think Caleb will be fine, even if he doesn't figure out how to throw people open.  There are several HOF QB's that didn't have that in their tool bag.

[AZ54]

Loveland was criticized for his route running being a tick too slow and not being ready for the ball coming out of his breaks.  This was after he dropped a couple where Williams hit him right out of the break.   I’m not worried about Loveland.  He’ll adapt to it and I expect Caleb to keep throwing him open like that.  

[Stinger226]

I think the next few weeks where we practice with other teams will show our progression or how much we are lacking. Its a work in progress and BJ expected this at this time but he is pissed on the pre snap penalites which should be gone by now.

[BearFan PHX]

4 hours ago, AZ54 said:

I have.  My sense is this is the most talented group we’ve had at the skill positions in a very long time.  It’s been two weeks of practice and for some rookies just one week.  I’m not worried about the Oline because most of those issues appear to be communication.  Experience will iron out the wrinkles. 

 

1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said:

Same.  From culture alone, it's been night and day from what we've seen in over a decade. 

Watching GMFB this morning, they were so concerned with 2019 Lamar Jackson being inaccurate in camp.  That led to his MVP.  Then, they talked Jamar Chase dropping a ton of ball in practice, which led to an All Pro season.  

I think Caleb will be fine, even if he doesn't figure out how to throw people open.  There are several HOF QB's that didn't have that in their tool bag.

I agree with both of you. Id like to see it soon, but it might take a minute, but it's hard to imagine this group not figuring it out over time. The roster and the staff are much better than anything we've seen in quite a while, and in some ways, ever.

I dont want to have patience, and I am going to see every mistake in the early games of course, but if it doesnt come fast, that doesnt mean it isnt coming.

We will see what needs fixing, and if players need replacing - which isnt always the same thing at all. If Trapilo is rough early for example that's different than if DJ Moore is screwing up. One you expect to have a growth period, and the other is a polished pro who should be his normal great self.

But i think this team should grow into something special, and i hope it happens fast, but if it takes a minute, we should be seeing growth at least. I won't lose hope right away if we start slow.

[AZ54]

My concern with Trapilo is somewhat the opposite of Braxton Jones:   Can he handle speed on the edge?  We have nobody on our roster to really test him that way.  

[BearFan PHX]

52 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

My concern with Trapilo is somewhat the opposite of Braxton Jones:   Can he handle speed on the edge?  We have nobody on our roster to really test him that way.  

exactly. But Miami will.

He was pretty good on his college tape, moves well laterally, and is naturally wide. But some of these pass rushers have speed and hands and they are slippery as hell. Cant wait to see Trapilo try to handle that. And even if he gets beat a few times, if he learns, that will be great.

[AZ54]

This is different.  Talking about the players starts at 12 min.  Oline around the 14 min mark.  
 

 

 

[DABEARSDABOMB]

39 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

This is different.  Talking about the players starts at 12 min.  Oline around the 14 min mark.  
 

 

 

Ben Johnson is definitely different. He’s like no coach I’ve seen the Bears have in my lifetime. Every second I hear how he operates or see it - just gives me confidence. 
 

My only real struggle right now is Caleb not throwing guys open given he struggled a ton with it last year. I get that it is still new system and they are throwing a lot at him - but I want to see progress these next few weeks and then of course throughout the season. 
 

Im excited though for Ben - seems like the absolute real deal! 

[Stinger226]

My two favorite ex Bears personalities are Dave and Olin. Respect their opinions. As much as its a roller coaster ride in the preseason, I think BJ will pull back and does game plans according to what Caleb's strengths are and slowly expand that as the season progresses. 

[Stinger226]

Just seen where Jordan Addison just pleaed No contest to a DUI charge and is suspected he gets a 3 game suspension to start the season which makes him not available for our first game. I would have to say that helps our cause to have a win.