Parsons to Packers ffs

[adam]

Madness

[Stinger226]

It doesnt make them now the best team in the NFC, but they got better. 

How many SBs did Dallas go to while Parsons was there? Would everyone agree that Prescott is a better QB that Jorden Love? I dont like seeing this but it guarantees them nothing. It will totally screw up their cap going forward. How many players are now, when its their turn, going to want big money. 

[BearFan PHX]

I dont know whats gotten into some people on this board, but Micah Parsons is a stud. Us not getting him is bad, Packers getting him is bad.

Im so sick of the rosy talk. Can we be real? We have a coach that is real, its time for us to be real too. 

[Stinger226]

17 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

I dont know whats gotten into some people on this board, but Micah Parsons is a stud. Us not getting him is bad, Packers getting him is bad.

Im so sick of the rosy talk. Can we be real? We have a coach that is real, its time for us to be real too. 

Your talking about me and answer the question, how many SBs did he win in Dallas? How many SBs has Garrett won in Cleveland, Crosby with the Raiders. 

Absolutely it would be nice to have him and its sucks that GB got him but we arent going to forfeit the season because of this. 

[ChileBear]

@ first round picks gone for the Puckers. Hope it cripples them for good.

[BearFan PHX]

11 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

Your talking about me and answer the question, how many SBs did he win in Dallas? How many SBs has Garrett won in Cleveland, Crosby with the Raiders. 

Absolutely it would be nice to have him and its sucks that GB got him but we arent going to forfeit the season because of this. 

so your point is that having a dominant pass rusher doesnt help you win superbowls?

Did you watch the last one? DId you see the Eagles D line nullify Patrick Mahomes effect on the game?

After QB what position DOES correlate to super bowls?

and here's you: "Braxton Jones is gonna try really hard, and were gonna just get better and try really hard and dig down deep and try really hard"

[Stinger226]

7 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

so your point is that having a dominant pass rusher doesnt help you win superbowls?

Did you watch the last one? DId you see the Eagles D line nullify Patrick Mahomes effect on the game?

After QB what position DOES correlate to super bowls?

and here's you: "Braxton Jones is gonna try really hard, and were gonna just get better and try really hard and dig down deep and try really hard"

You like to talk, I will bet you 100 that the Packers dont go to the SB this year. We can send the money to Adam to hold. I am willing to lose to you and I would hate to do that.

[Stinger226]

Parsons 47 mil a year.

Love 30 mil this year.

Gary 26 mil this year

The Cap will not be a problem this year but going forward they better win a SB in the next two yrs because the cap will be upside down in the near future. 

2 firsts and Kenny Clark for Parsons. 

[Stinger226]

37 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

so your point is that having a dominant pass rusher doesnt help you win superbowls?

Did you watch the last one? DId you see the Eagles D line nullify Patrick Mahomes effect on the game?

After QB what position DOES correlate to super bowls?

and here's you: "Braxton Jones is gonna try really hard, and were gonna just get better and try really hard and dig down deep and try really hard"

Eagles sack leaders last year. Joel Sweat-8, Nolan Smith 6.5, Jalen Carter 4.5, Milton Williams 5, Brandon Graham 3.5 

 

[AZ54]

36 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

Eagles sack leaders last year. Joel Sweat-8, Nolan Smith 6.5, Jalen Carter 4.5, Milton Williams 5, Brandon Graham 3.5 

 

Valid point.  One elite pass rusher doesn’t win the day.  The best pass rushes come from all directions even if one is not elite.  They still have Gary and they got better overall.  Pass rush has to be paired with coverage and that is their weakness.  

[BearFan PHX]

1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:

You like to talk, I will bet you 100 that the Packers dont go to the SB this year. We can send the money to Adam to hold. I am willing to lose to you and I would hate to do that.

Logic fails you. Did you hear me say the Packers are 100% locks for the superbowl? Youre so caught up in whos winning and losing that youre missing the point.

A dominant pass rusher, which is a very important ingredient in winning superbowls, second only QB, was available. Not only did we not get him, but he went to a divisional rival. And not only did he go to a divisional rival, but we have no one to block him.

He's some math you rpobably wont understand, but everyone else reading this thread will so Ill say it anyway:

For your bet to even begin to make sense, we would have to both agree that Jordan love is a SB QB right? Because I said Edge is the second most important position.

But go ahead, you keep telling yourself that we dont need an edge rusher, and the happy rainbow fairies are gonna make Braxton be really good.

Do I think we can scheme around Braxton's weaknesses a bit? Sure sometimes. Do i think Dennis Allen can find ways to create pressure? Of course. DO I want to see the skill players look great out there - of course I do! We will win games this year.

But LT and Pass rush are big problems. And it's OK to talk about that, even though it makes you scared and need to protect your player friends who's feelings are being hurt by my noticing that they are playing crap. This is just our discussion about Charles Leno all over again.

Its OK to say there are problems on the team. Your participation trophy stuff is weird.

[BearFan PHX]

15 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

Valid point.  One elite pass rusher doesn’t win the day.  The best pass rushes come from all directions even if one is not elite.  They still have Gary and they got better overall.  Pass rush has to be paired with coverage and that is their weakness.  

One Elite pass rusher has won the day many years though!

The Eagles had depth, so they had a rotation, but the bigger point is that a real pass rush takes even the best QBs out of the game.

I'm surprised this is even controversial at all. Edge rusher is the second most important, and highly paid, position on the field. Im sure we can agree on that?