Parsons to Packers ffs

[adam]

21 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

Actual I never thought of that but playing outdoors in cold weather will affect him. Parsons can get them 15 sacks every year but their success will depend on Love . This does not make them unbeatable. At Dallas they had a high end QB and won but they went no where in the playoffs. A great pass rusher guarantees them nothing especially having to give up a high quality DT.

So the trade off is Van Ness and Clark to Parsons and Wooden. So the overall upgrade is less because you have a downgrade at DT with the upgrade at Edge and backup Edge.

[Stinger226]

A little humor never hurt anybody.

[Stinger226]

I think everyone was happy we got BJ and all our new coaches. We have not seen one snap of the new season yet. and some people are nervous.  I think our preseason showed us a lot of good things going forward. If you want to say KCs starters are better than our starters, I could have told you that 4 months ago. 

Here is a good discussion by some intelligent people about the trade. David Haugh is annoying so be ready for that.

 

[Stinger226]

What would it have taken for us to get Parsons?  

2 firsts is a no-brainer and being they wanted a DT instead of a DE, it probably would have been Dexter plus another 3rd round pick. 

2 1s

1 3rd

Dexter

[Stinger226]

 

[Stinger226]

3 hours ago, adam said:

So the trade off is Van Ness and Clark to Parsons and Wooden. So the overall upgrade is less because you have a downgrade at DT with the upgrade at Edge and backup Edge.

According to OTC the Packers will have 35 mil in dead cap money over the next two yrs for Kenny Clark. Plus his salary which I havent found yet for this year. He was making 24 mil, but dont know how the new money applies. 

This is a big risk for GB but if it gets them to the SB , they will be praised for it, if they dont GB fans will be whining for the next 5 yrs. 

https://overthecap.com/micah-parsons-traded-to-the-packers

[Mongo3451]

I've been trying to call the espn1000 show to blow them some shit.  Everything they are whining about today is wrong.  Jurko took the day off so they lost all common sense. 

First they said the Bears don't have deep enough pockets to pay that huge signing bonus.  Wrong!  The NFL shared a record revenue of 432 million per team last year.  Do they think the Packers have that and we don't. 

Then they start crying about he's going to GB and we should've stopped it be signing him.  That's not how professional franchise work.  Lastly Clark was their best run defender and Parsons will now be their worse.  

Looking back at huge EDGE acquisitions, the only ones that worked were the ones that had established franchise QBs.  Don't make me repeat that.  Favre got Reggie White and Aikman got Charles Haley.  We got Julius Peppers with sexy Rexy and GB just got Parsons with Love.  I hope everyone sees the difference.  We aren't ready because Caleb isn't ready. Until we know if he can play, the the big gambles go to the offense.

[Stinger226]

1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said:

I've been trying to call the espn1000 show to blow them some shit.  Everything they are whining about today is wrong.  Jurko took the day off so they lost all common sense. 

First they said the Bears don't have deep enough pockets to pay that huge signing bonus.  Wrong!  The NFL shared a record revenue of 432 million per team last year.  Do they think the Packers have that and we don't. 

Then they start crying about he's going to GB and we should've stopped it be signing him.  That's not how professional franchise work.  Lastly Clark was their best run defender and Parsons will now be their worse.  

Looking back at huge EDGE acquisitions, the only ones that worked were the ones that had established franchise QBs.  Don't make me repeat that.  Favre got Reggie White and Aikman got Charles Haley.  We got Julius Peppers with sexy Rexy and GB just got Parsons with Love.  I hope everyone sees the difference.  We aren't ready because Caleb isn't ready. Until we know if he can play, the the big gambles go to the offense.

ESPN is not the only ones crying. I listen to the SCORE all day and watched several podcasts. I, as you, dont think Love is a good enough QB to win a SB for them. I dont think we were one player away from getting to a SB , where GB thinks they are. 

This is BJs first year as coach, and I want to see the impact he has on the team. It was a big cost to get Parsons, and it may or may not pay off. Would I like to have him, absolutely  but just not the time yet .  We are capped out going into next year and I know they can play with the contracts but it would mean , if wrong, we will have a problem resigning Caleb if in fact he becomes worth it. Caleb will have to get paid in 2027 or 2028 and those contracts will over lap. 

[BearFan PHX]

Its OK to say Parsons is worth the price, and its Ok to say he isnt.

Here are some things that are simply not true:

1) Parson's isnt that good - no hes great.

2) If we signed Parsons, we couldnt resign Caleb in a couple years - not true, the salary cap goes up every year, and one doesnt mean the other

3) you have to be one player away to make this move - no you do something like this when your QB is on their rookie deal, thats the advantage of having a QB on their rookie deal!

4) Our pass rush is fine - no it isnt

[Stinger226]

49 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

Its OK to say Parsons is worth the price, and its Ok to say he isnt.

Here are some things that are simply not true:

1) Parson's isnt that good - no hes great.

2) If we signed Parsons, we couldnt resign Caleb in a couple years - not true, the salary cap goes up every year, and one doesnt mean the other

3) you have to be one player away to make this move - no you do something like this when your QB is on their rookie deal, thats the advantage of having a QB on their rookie deal!

4) Our pass rush is fine - no it isnt

You're  entitled to your opinion and he is a great player, and we dont have a good pass rush. Here is his contract. Look at 2028

https://overthecap.com/player/micah-parsons/9476

[Stinger226]

I have been looking at a lot of GB fan forums like ours and the ones that like it think Jorden Love is a top 10 QB. A lot of them are leery of it screwing the team up next year and beyond. About like the Bear fans reaction to it. 50% think its bigtime for GB and 50% thinks its a problem.