BearFan PHX Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, adam said: Didn't even pay attention to this, but the blocked FG should've been a WAS penalty. One-second rule: This protection lasts for the first one second after the ball is snapped. Payne immediately uses Daly's back for leverage. He was not protected for one second. good catch. Im not one for conspiracy theories, but the refs were brutal on us last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, adam said: Didn't even pay attention to this, but the blocked FG should've been a WAS penalty. One-second rule: This protection lasts for the first one second after the ball is snapped. Payne immediately uses Daly's back for leverage. He was not protected for one second. I've seen the leverage rule, but don't believe there is a one second rule for protecting the center. If Payne did not gain height, it is not eligible for leverage to be called. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 15 hours ago, Bears4Ever_34 said: Up until that final Daniels turnover, I thought he was. Caleb's accuracy and decision making was all over the place. He's lucky he wasn't picked a couple times in the redzone. I think almost all of the close ones were plays that involved Rome: the 4th down, the deep ball into double coverage, and the late slant in the endzone. There were at least a few others that were just straight up misses to open guys. It wasn't pretty for him, regardless of whether or not he got screwed on that other TD. That said, once Daniels fumbled that ball on the most critical play of the game, I think he brought himself down closer even with Caleb, perhaps even slightly worse. Regardless, they were somehow able to get a win by beating two teams today. This never happens. I'm feeling a whole hell of a lot better now. The Bears had to prove to me they could win a game like this. I give them and Caleb a lot of credit for their resilience. That’s where I’m at. Not a great game for either QB. I still like Caleb’s higher potential. Last year the pressure of playing back home affected Caleb. He rallied at the end. I was curious how he would handle returning to the scene of the crime. He was much better but still left a lot of plays on the field. Only five games into the Ben Johnson era and I like the direction Caleb is headed. I’m waiting for that game where he puts it all together. Who had the Bears winning three in a row after the loss to Detroit? Not mentioned anywhere is how satisfying this win had to be for our HC who lost to Wash in the playoffs 45 to 31. Not only that Wash is again expected to contend for the NFC championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago Last night wasn't a perfect game, but it has me feeling it was the perfect win for the moment. A prime time victory on the road, Williams over Daniels, our D stopped their #1 ranked rushing attack, we ran the ball, came from behind, have the tie breaker and exercised the demons of the fail Mary. Great win! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Share Posted 1 hour ago 2 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: I've seen the leverage rule, but don't believe there is a one second rule for protecting the center. If Payne did not gain height, it is not eligible for leverage to be called. The rule states: "It is illegal to make contact with the long snapper while their head is down immediately following the snap. Contact can occur after the snap is complete and the snapper has lifted their head." If you see the screengrab, he just released the ball and hasn't had a chance to even move his helmet and Payne is already on his back. 3 hours ago, BearFan PHX said: good catch. Im not one for conspiracy theories, but the refs were brutal on us last night. It actually happened on the GW Kick too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adam Posted 1 hour ago Author Report Share Posted 1 hour ago At 3-2, here is where they stand on offense and defense, it looks like without the turnovers, this team is probably 1-4. The defense needs to improve quickly: Offense - 10th PPG, 14th YPG, 15th YPP, 7th 3D%, 9th Sacks Defense - 27th PPG, 27th YPG, 32nd YPP, 2nd INT, 27th Sacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted 1 hour ago Report Share Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 12 minutes ago, adam said: The rule states: "It is illegal to make contact with the long snapper while their head is down immediately following the snap. Contact can occur after the snap is complete and the snapper has lifted their head." If you see the screengrab, he just released the ball and hasn't had a chance to even move his helmet and Payne is already on his back. It actually happened on the GW Kick too. I watched the replay several times and it looked like he shot the gap, which is legal. It's pretty gray area that I don't fully understand. I'm gonna dig into it. Here it is. In the NFL, a long snapper is considered a "defenseless player" during field goals and extra points and cannot be contacted in the head or neck area while his head is down. The defensive team also has specific formation restrictions to protect the snapper. However, unlike college football, the NFL does not provide a mandatory time delay before the long snapper can be engaged. Edited 1 hour ago by Mongo3451 Rules clarification Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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