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Bears trade for DE Joe Tryon-Shoyinka (CLE) and a 7th for a 6th


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If you want the best compensation (draft picks) for your top players, wait until the NFL trade deadline. Teams give up far too much for quality players, hoping it will give them a shot at the playoffs/Super Bowl.

We have all agreed that the most successful teams build through the draft. Swapping a 6th for a 7th is just a handshake to make the deal official. We keep our top draft capital, which, with BJ's input, will hopefully result in a quality starter.

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Tryon-Shoyinka stands 6-foot-5, 260 pounds and is 26 years old. He was a  first-round draft pick by Tampa Bay, the last pick of Round 1 in 2021 out of Washington.

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This season Tryon-Shoyinka has recorded three pressures without a sack but his playing time is way down with the Browns with just 31 plays on defense and 58 on special teams.

Was a teammate of K Gordon—a cheap one-year rotational piece to help out our D and ST.

Good Deal, IMHO.

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3 hours ago, Bears4Ever_34 said:

They only had 3 healthy DE's on the active roster coming into this week (Sweat, Booker, Hardy). They had to do something—I just wish it was for somebody who can actually help. This guy has 5 tackles and 0 sacks on the season. You can find somebody on the street for that kind of production.

Actually 5 tackles in 31 snaps is pretty good. After being signed late the Browns just havent given him any playing time. The Bears were never going to trade for a big contract edge. What they were looking for was added depth that will  fill in as a rotational DE . Joe T-S best year was 40 pressures, 5 sacks, 7 TFL, &  7 QB hits and one forced fumble in 50% of the snaps. 

He is 26 and signed for two yrs at 4.6 mil that can be cut at any time for no dead money. As someone said, low risk, low cost. If we can get  4 or 5 sacks out of him in 9 games he will have been well worth it.

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9 hours ago, adam said:

Low cost, low risk move here. Former 1st Round pick. 

I was so glad to see they basically did nothing. Was very against any big moves - but this is low key and basically gets you a former 1st rounder for what will likely be moving down 15-20 spots from middle of 6th round to early in 7th. 

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4 hours ago, Pixote said:

If you want the best compensation (draft picks) for your top players, wait until the NFL trade deadline. Teams give up far too much for quality players, hoping it will give them a shot at the playoffs/Super Bowl.

We have all agreed that the most successful teams build through the draft. Swapping a 6th for a 7th is just a handshake to make the deal official. We keep our top draft capital, which, with BJ's input, will hopefully result in a quality starter.

Was a teammate of K Gordon—a cheap one-year rotational piece to help out our D and ST.

Good Deal, IMHO.

I agree.  We are against the cap, which you can wiggle it but it gets tighter every time you do.  Keep your picks and if we get them right we extend the longevity of success. 

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12 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

I was so glad to see they basically did nothing. Was very against any big moves - but this is low key and basically gets you a former 1st rounder for what will likely be moving down 15-20 spots from middle of 6th round to early in 7th. 

I read the pick they get back is actually the Eagles 7th round pick, not the Browns own 7th rounder, so it could end up being the last pick of the draft. Doesn't seem like good value to me, if that is the case.

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8 hours ago, AZ54 said:

I watched all 3 of his highlights.  He’s a poor man’s version of Dayo and Dayo certainly made us poorer. 

He didnt play in Cleveland bc Myles Garrett amd the next two DEs are players they drafted.  He has a great RAS score, great attitude, young, and maybe just needs the right team and opportunity.  JTS plays 1 and 2, Booker in for 3rd downs.

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Poles track record on free agents is up and a lot of down as far as value. Billings-Edwards-Byard were good values. Plenty of bad signings. I will say the way he does contracts that most dont have a long term affect on the Cap  We wont know what Joe T-S will be until he plays for us. For better or for worst the Cap is structured to have the most money available when Caleb's contract comes up. The proper time to grade everything is at the end of this year. If we end up being a winning team then the way he structured it worked out. If not another bad mark on Poles track record. 

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It's about a 40 slot drop from the Bears projected 6th to the Eagles projected 7th. That equates to an early 7th round pick. Now I know Monangai worked out, but the odds that a 6th or 7th rounder even make the 53-man are low. 

Kyle Monangai, Luke Newman, Travis Bell, Kendall Williamson, Zachary Thomas, Trestan Ebner, Doug Kramer, Ja'Tyre Carter, Elijah Hicks, Trenton Gill.

Of the 8 6th and 7th rounders Poles has selected before this season, Hicks is the only one on the 53-man roster. That is a 12.5% hit rate.

So using a 7th rounder value on a former 1st rounder is not that bad.

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