Ian Cunningham

[BearFan PHX]

I see where Ian Cunningham is being strongly considered for GM or President of the Falcons.

I know that if he becomes GM, we will get two 3rd round compensatory picks. I assume the same would be true if they tab him for President, but Im not sure, so if anyone knows Id love to know:

1) do we still get the picks if he is President and not GM?

2) do we get the first of those picks in this year's draft, and the next one next year?

3) are the picks tradeable?

4) are both the picks tradeable this year?

Might be helpful for moving up int he first round for a pass rusher, or in trade for one.

Thanks to anyone who knows and can tell me!

[BearFan PHX]

Found this - not sure it answers anything, but its out there.
 

 

[adam]

51 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

Found this - not sure it answers anything, but its out there.
 

 

That would suck. It almost seems like they are circumventing the system. 

[BearFan PHX]

2 hours ago, adam said:

That would suck. It almost seems like they are circumventing the system. 

yeah, I mean it doesnt cost them anything, so they are just thinking about who they want for what job I guess. 

My instinct is that it WOULD count and wed get the picks, but I dunno.

I mean they're trying to get "minorities" jobs right? And you're trying to incentivize teams to have "minority" assistant GMs, so why wouldn't you award this?

I mean the whole thing is dumb to me anyway. Teams will hire whoever they think can win with, I dont think the NFL is racist. But I also dont mean to open a whole can of worms or any kind of discussion about that right now, 24 hours before the playoff game!

And if theyre handing out 3rd round picks for anything, Ill take as many as I can get, no matter why.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

2 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

yeah, I mean it doesnt cost them anything, so they are just thinking about who they want for what job I guess. 

My instinct is that it WOULD count and wed get the picks, but i dunno.

I would think we would get the picks. It isn’t as if Atlanta is saving a pick and the point is to promote and encourage minorities into more high profile front office (or head coach) positions. Whether he is GM or President I would think the Bears would get the 2 picks. 
 

To the questions earlier - you can trade the picks and the Bears would get 1 this year and 1 next year. 

[BearFan PHX]

2 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

I would think we would get the picks. It isn’t as if Atlanta is saving a pick and the point is to promote and encourage minorities into more high profile front office (or head coach) positions. Whether he is GM or President I would think the Bears would get the 2 picks. 
 

To the questions earlier - you can trade the picks and the Bears would get 1 this year and 1 next year. 

thank you!

and can we trade next years pick this year?

I feel like there has been some prohibition on that with compensatory picks in the past, but not any more, but again, Im not an expert.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

3 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

thank you!

and can we trade next years pick this year?

I feel like there has been some prohibition on that with compensatory picks in the past, but not any more, but again, Im not an expert.

I think you can trade next years since it is known you have it…where as you can’t trade a traditional comp pick since you technically don’t officially have it until it is assigned. 
 

With that said I’m not entirely sure on the 27 comp pick. 

[Pixote]

I heard they are also interviewing Matt Ryan for the president's job. Makes sense. He is Atlanta's HOFer and highly respected by the owner, and remains extremely popular with the fan base.

President Ryan

GM Cunningham

Problem solved.

[BearFan PHX]

1 hour ago, Pixote said:

I heard they are also interviewing Matt Ryan for the president's job. Makes sense. He is Atlanta's HOFer and highly respected by the owner, and remains extremely popular with the fan base.

President Ryan

GM Cunningham

Problem solved.

Yeah ones gonna be Pres and the other ones gonna be GM, and theyre just figuring it out. If it was me, I think the player goes President, and the asst GM goes GM.

[BearFan PHX]

2 hours ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:

I think you can trade next years since it is known you have it…where as you can’t trade a traditional comp pick since you technically don’t officially have it until it is assigned. 
 

With that said I’m not entirely sure on the 27 comp pick. 

thank you

[ASHKUM BEAR]

Matt Ryan and Ryan Poles played at Boston College together. Ive heard the rumor of Atlanta trading for Poles and the Bears promote Ian. 

[BearFan PHX]

44 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

Matt Ryan and Ryan Poles played at Boston College together. Ive heard the rumor of Atlanta trading for Poles and the Bears promote Ian. 

yes please - Id love that.

Make it that Atlanta signs Cunningham, then trades him for Poles - we get the compensatory picks too then  LOL

[Pixote]

It's official, Ryan has been hired as President of Football Operations for the Falcons:

Franchise passing leader Matt Ryan returning to the Falcons as president of football

[AZ54]

9 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

yes please - Id love that.

Make it that Atlanta signs Cunningham, then trades him for Poles - we get the compensatory picks too then  LOL

Those are legit rumors or wild speculation on the internet?  There'd be way more involved than the league-sourced two 3rd Rd picks, likely at least one 1st Rd pick if not more.   That would in effect be Poles giving up his future draft capital for his new rebuilding job in Atlanta.  He'd also be saying he made a mistake with the Williams pick and that he now thinks Penix is the better QB option.    

If we get anything out of Atlanta make it Bijan Robinson.  Matt Ryan and whoever (Cunningham) are not giving up the one elite talent they've got on offense.    

[BearFan PHX]

9 minutes ago, AZ54 said:

Those are legit rumors or wild speculation on the internet?  There'd be way more involved than the league-sourced two 3rd Rd picks, likely at least one 1st Rd pick if not more.   That would in effect be Poles giving up his future draft capital for his new rebuilding job in Atlanta.  He'd also be saying he made a mistake with the Williams pick and that he now thinks Penix is the better QB option.    

If we get anything out of Atlanta make it Bijan Robinson.  Matt Ryan and whoever (Cunningham) are not giving up the one elite talent they've got on offense.    

I didnt see the rumors - Ashkum did, I was just playing with the idea. It sounds far fetched for the reasons you just said, but id be all for it of course.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

No chance Poles is leaving or a team is trading for him. They are good friends but Poles isn’t leaving for that. I do think it’s pretty likely Cunningham goes. 
 

And no one is trading a 1st round pick for Poles.