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2 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

Taylor Decker didn't want to come off of his 21m cap hit for the Lions.  It would seem he'd want more than he's worth to us.  

We have Theo and Kiran under contract.  Why not sign Braxton cheap and roll with the guys we already have?  If all fails, we have Thuney.  I'd rather spend money on Linderbaum than a starting caliber left tackle, if we're playing the long game.  

It would take some work signing/affording Tyler, especially when Wright needs extended.

On D, Byard is on the fence with me.  His lack of speed really got exposed last year.  I'd keep him at a team friendly price, but we've got to get younger/faster.

Hes getting kinda old, so Im thinking like AZ54 is on this one - maybe he wants a ring? We arent gonna play him $20M, Id be very surprised at that, so he'd have to know that. Im just guessing here that if he was gonna stay on a team that isnt going to contend he wanted the money, but he might play cheaper for us?

As for Byard, I totally agree with you Mongo, he did get exposed last year. I can see us keeping him for a year or two, but we absolutely need to get younger and faster on D, and Byard wont be here in 3 years, and possibly leaving sooner than that even.

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50 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

Hes getting kinda old, so Im thinking like AZ54 is on this one - maybe he wants a ring? We arent gonna play him $20M, Id be very surprised at that, so he'd have to know that. Im just guessing here that if he was gonna stay on a team that isnt going to contend he wanted the money, but he might play cheaper for us?

As for Byard, I totally agree with you Mongo, he did get exposed last year. I can see us keeping him for a year or two, but we absolutely need to get younger and faster on D, and Byard wont be here in 3 years, and possibly leaving sooner than that even.

I don't think we end up with Decker, cost is prohibited.

Mongo is on to what we probably do. OL coach suggested the answer is in house. We assume Ozzy may be gone the whole season but I've heard it could just be 6 weeks. Bring Braxton Jones back, get by for 6 weeks. We have no idea what Kiran can do but maybe he is past his injury and they know more about him than we do.

I think they bring back Byard but at their price. He was all pro and led the league in interceptions. Has he lost a step at his age , yes but with a better pass rush, healthy LBers and CBs, pressure won't be on him as much.. He was the D leader and is a playmaker.With Edmunds leaving we need a leader. With healthy CBs, he will be no problem.

[BearFan PHX]

I think youre making assumptions but there is no actual info yet on what we will do at LT. Im surely not saying i know anything about what they will do - the best Ive got is to look at some of the options that i am aware of. But for example, i didnt have any IDEA that we might trade for the Center from NE until it was announced, so i dont think any of us can truly know.

So for Mongo to say he thinks that is totally fine - that's all any of us can do, but to take the statement from Roushar like it means we wont be looking at LT? I dunno about that. It didnt sound like a fact as much as a pat answer so as not to tip his hand.

COULD we end up with Benedet at LT? Sure. But I dunno if we are at the point where we know anything for sure yet?

Also I doubt highly that Trapilo could be back after 6 weeks? If you have a link Id love to read it, but my understanding is that it takes a lot longer for that heal. Of course, my medical knowledge is about the same as my understanding of automotive repair, so what the hell do i know? Only what Ive read. If you have something contrary to read, Id be happy to read it.

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14 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

I think youre making assumptions but there is no actual info yet on what we will do at LT. Im surely not saying i know anything about what they will do - the best Ive got is to look at some of the options that i am aware of. But for example, i didnt have any IDEA that we might trade for the Center from NE until it was announced, so i dont think any of us can truly know.

So for Mongo to say he thinks that is totally fine - that's all any of us can do, but to take the statement from Roushar like it means we wont be looking at LT? I dunno about that. It didnt sound like a fact as much as a pat answer so as not to tip his hand.

COULD we end up with Benedet at LT? Sure. But I dunno if we are at the point where we know anything for sure yet?

Also I doubt highly that Trapilo could be back after 6 weeks? If you have a link Id love to read it, but my understanding is that it takes a lot longer for that heal. Of course, my medical knowledge is about the same as my understanding of automotive repair, so what the hell do i know? Only what Ive read. If you have something contrary to read, Id be happy to read it.

You are correct none of us know anything. Until they do something, we can only assume they fix any position in house.

I have read several people that said his injury could be faster recovery but that is just an opinion with Ozzy. I think what will let us know is by their actions. If they don't bring in a FA but re-sign Braxton that makes a statement.

They could draft a LT at 25 but that answer is 6 weeks away. I think they might do both,cover themselves with Braxton or another FA and draft one but maybe not at 25. 

What I think this means is we are not spending big money on a LT in free agency. The signing of Bradbury shows they are making cap type choices. 

Poles can surprise us , the Bradbury move was out of left field.

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15 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

You are correct none of us know anything. Until they do something, we can only assume they fix any position in house.

I have read several people that said his injury could be faster recovery but that is just an opinion with Ozzy. I think what will let us know is by their actions. If they don't bring in a FA but re-sign Braxton that makes a statement.

They could draft a LT at 25 but that answer is 6 weeks away. I think they might do both,cover themselves with Braxton or another FA and draft one but maybe not at 25. 

What I think this means is we are not spending big money on a LT in free agency. The signing of Bradbury shows they are making cap type choices. 

Poles can surprise us , the Bradbury move was out of left field.

I figure they made the move to put Thuney at LT in the NFC Championship game. It tells me they probably don't have a ton of confidence in the in-house solutions (including Braxton).  With Decker out there and Trent Williams potentially there - certainly see a scenario where front office and coaching staff said - lets go upgrade the LT position, knowing any of those moves are short-term measures but elevate the room while buying time to evaluate Trapillo in the long run.  I also wonder how Benedet would fit at a guard position over time - he looked very athletic and was great in run-blocking.  

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17 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

You are correct none of us know anything. Until they do something, we can only assume they fix any position in house.

I have read several people that said his injury could be faster recovery but that is just an opinion with Ozzy. I think what will let us know is by their actions. If they don't bring in a FA but re-sign Braxton that makes a statement.

They could draft a LT at 25 but that answer is 6 weeks away. I think they might do both,cover themselves with Braxton or another FA and draft one but maybe not at 25. 

What I think this means is we are not spending big money on a LT in free agency. The signing of Bradbury shows they are making cap type choices. 

Poles can surprise us , the Bradbury move was out of left field.

I actually think the trade for Bradbury tells me they are being mindful what they spent on center - which to me tells me they are potentially looking at making a double digit per year signing somewhere (or acquiring a double digit contract).  

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First of all, I only form opinions by what I digest in the football realm. I don't know anything for sure but guess by forming that opinion. Just like everyone else on here.

In not going after either Tyler or Connor that suggests they are making cap friendly moves. Could they sign a big dollar guy, of course but I don't think they are. 

We don't know what they value people on their current roster but we do know until they trade someone or restructure contracts they don't have a lot of money right now.

Lots of people have given different numbers on cap space but I think around 32 mil seems the most accurate. We just subjected 5.7 mil off of that amount. We will need operating capital and about a 13 mil rookie pool. I'm not good at math but it doesn't seem we have a lot of money to fill a lot of positions. Those are future costs but it does say to me we aren't making any big money deals.