madlithuanian

Yeah, we did get a few that went our way...make up calls as you say!

Agreed on Peppers. Not sure how deep Wootten is into his contract... If Peanut take a pay cut, I'm all for it.

Thanks for clarifying the Steltz penalty. Agreed on your overall take...

I just don't buy an utter collapse and failure. Injuries make a difference, but we are just ouright bad. We need a complete re-build.

I never said they had to be good. They just can't be this horrible. It's really bad. Teams have dealt with similar losses to be be this epicly awful. I only want him out there 100%. If he's 100%, then I'm OK with it. All I was really saying is that if things shape up well with McCown under center...it might be easy for the staff to say he's not quite 100%.

Agreed. At this point, no one in our division deserves to go. That may change...

1. Our D is the most putrid piece of crap I've ever seen wear the storied uniforms. In fact crap is more useful, at least it's fertilizer. I don't care about injuries. These clowns have no pride. It is painful to watch. There is absolutely nothing positive you can say about what we saw yesterday. We'd let Kathy Bates run for a buck fifty if she lined up against us... 2. Trestman needs to wisen up. As great as he's been, continuing to go on 4th when it's painfully obvious to kick is becoming mind boggling. And to top it off, he doesn't even put the ball in the hands of playmakers. Again, he runs up the middle... 3. ...with MICHAEL FREAKING BUSH!!!! Can this king of turds please be cut from the team? He is useless! I'd rather run Hester... 4. McCown is putting together a very nice short season. I still think Cutler is the long term plan, but damn if I'm not tempted to just ride Josh out for the rest of the season. Let Jay get healthy, and let him SEE how QB needs to be played...and let him take a pay cut. 5. Marshall is a bonafide stud. Jeffrey and Martellus are great accompanyments. 6. Forte is really good. He just picked a really bad area on the field to F up. 7. We got 100% jobbed on crummy officiating all night long. Especially on that return. Did Hester F the umpire's daughter on Saturday and not call her in the morning? What the F was that phantom hold/block called on by Steltz? Can someone at Fox actually show the replay instead of looking at sidelines? Moron coverage by Fox. To this moment, I have seen nothing that shows me anything other than Hester getting jobbed... There were other suspect calls all night on us that I just can't recall at this point due to my anger over the return call. All said, I think Trestman and the Emery plan will work over time. I think the red flag is up on Tucker and DeCamilis. We will have a tough decision on QB at season's end... We make the playoffs only if we win the division. But right now, we don't look deserving of a berth. We might down the road, but right now, no.

Thanks for charing that. Easy to like the guy...

No love lost between us... We have suffered some horrible losses to them in the past. F 'em.

exactly!

Exactly!

Should that not be at least defensive holding? 5 yds, automatic first down and one more attempt...

100%

Freaking morons...

It's not just us, which makes me think other forces are at work.

Might be the new country club rules...

Need not worry, he's a Jet now.

Intesting post. Thanks for sharing! Coupled with father time, it makes sense.

I've got to imagine those guys are still on the street for some reason... I'm no fan of Conte...but I think I'd rather just give Steltz a whirl.

Budget. I'm probably just recalling old rules...

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2013/...derrick-martin/

It all depends. Who the back-up is, how immobile the QB is, how good the competition is, etc... I think they did the right thing by starting Jay. I just think they erred not getting him out of there sooner. Hindsight would say end of the 1/2. But realistically, maybe mid 4th...

Ball moved after his leg hit... No?

That's what I thought as well...

Me too.