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Your replies are always challenging for my old eyes. You are the Tolstoy of posters. LOL. If you collected all of the replies you have made in your justification of your opinions about Fields, and posted them in a collection, I dare say it would put "War and Peace" to shame. ?

Sure enough. I just read an article: Kliff Kingsbury's flip could add new wrinkle to Bears' upcoming QB decision That speculates: 1) Washington is preparing to make a run at trading for our #1 pick to select Williams to give Kingsbury "his man." 2) This would put the Bears on the clock to draft Drake Maye, who many think is as good or not better than Williams. 3) That it would further put the Raiders at the top of the list to trade for Fields because, as I quote from the article: Would anyone be interested in Max Crosby plus a 3rd or 4th rd pick in a trade for Fields?

I just read an article on bearswire.usatoday.com on the 2024 strength of schedule. There are only two teams (Falcons & Saints) whose schedules are considered easier than the Bears'. Of course, as we all know, this SOS can always be misleading, as there are always surprises once the season begins (for example, Houston's resurgence in 2023). Win-loss from 2023 teams: 135-154 Games vs. teams with .500+ win percentage in 2023: 10 Games vs. 2023 playoff teams: 7

I am not saying she made this up, but you can't always trust the columnists trying to gain an audience to further themselves. That is what I meant by the question. For every report that says we should dump Fields, I am sure there is one saying we should keep him. I know for a fact that others have posted columnists who feel Justin should not be traded. However, you tend to ignore any positive report, instead wanting to find a counterargument.

I am not shocked that you feel we should all agree with you on this. The day you posted on this forum to die-hard Bears' fans that when you look at Justin Fields, you do not see a quarterback but instead see a piece of shit, I predicted from that day forward you would never be able to view Justin Fields without a prejudiced eye. Just as you sincerely believe Poles' objectivity is compromised because he hugs a player in a locker room, I feel you have lost your objectivity when it comes to Fields. That is not to say you are wrong. You very well might be correct in your assessment. Maybe he is a piece of shit. Maybe he will never become a franchise quarterback or even one rated in the top 10 by the number crunchers. However, some of us would like to keep Justin around for one more year (and still draft a QB to develop behind him in case, God forbid, you are right) to see if he is "fool's gold" or a "hidden treasure." How would he perform if: 1) What if he had an improved OL that gave him confidence when he dropped back in the pocket? How many times did I see him make a 3 to 5-step drop, and before he could even set his back foot to throw, he found the blitzing defender, beat him to the spot, and tried to decapitate him? 2) What if he had better receivers? Yes, DJ and Cole are awesome. But when that is all you must depend on, the opposing DC can take away their edge by scheming. If Justin had another WR he could depend on in the lineup (and this year's draft has some awesome talent at WR), how would that affect Fields' performance? 3) What if he had an OC who knew what the hell he was doing? An OC that could design an offense around his amazing talents and not try to force him into a template. An OC who knew how to call plays to counter the defensive schemes being used against us. An OC who knew how to make adjustments on the fly? 4) What if this OC had a history of shaving 1+ seconds off of a QB's release time? One that has proven to be able to work with mobile QBs? Hell, I have no answer to those questions. I would love to have one more year to find out! Again, 1) Keep Justin. 2) Trade back and get a ton of blue-chip players to continue to upgrade our starting lineup. 3) Draft a good prospect at QB early to groom behind Justin. That would be my plan, which doesn't fit either of your three options.

Or did they tell her? I do not remember the name of the female reporter who admitted in an interview (and then tried to walk it back) that as a sideline reporter in the NFL, she quite often made up reports on what she was told by coaches during half-time. She worked for a major network, I believe Fox, but am not sure.

I'm getting so damn sick and tired of this petty squabble between the two of you that I swear to God I am about to resign as admin and leave the forum. I do not come here to listen (read) fellow Bears' fans, who I thought were two mature adults, argue like two six-year-olds. Fellow admins have repeatedly requested that the two of you "bury the hatchet." Yet you continue. STOP!!!! (And I don't want to hear, "But he started it....") JUST END IT! NOW!!!!

One last thought and I will not debate this any further. I consider Poles a reasonably intelligent man. I don't think for one moment he is going to risk losing his dream job (being a GM for a storied franchise) by allowing himself to be swayed by his personal feeling for the players. He will do what's best for the team to succeed, because if he doesn't, he loses his job. You said it is personal. Yes, but not the way you characterize it. It is personal because he doesn't want to go home to his wife and family and tell them he is no longer the GM of the Bears.

Actually you made Stinger's point, as I'm sure he believes as I do: (as you said as quoted))

Despite being in cap hell, they have a much better roster in place to begin their rebuild than we did. I suspect that they players will be excited to play for Harbaugh (I assume) and will be willing to rework contracts to help get things on the right foot.

No, No, No. If their fans are like Bear fans, then a purge and rebuild has to be finished by the end of year two or he will be roasted and run out of town with a bus ticket for Ann Arbor. LOL

Awesome! ? I like this new staff being assembled to assist our outstanding HC! ? Very promising.

That's a bit disappointing, although I am sure Detroit fans are thrilled, for good reason.

So is DJ the amazing WR we have come to love BECAUSE of or IN SPITE of Chris Beatty's amazing coaching skills? Let's hope it was the former and not the latter. ?

Nice article about Eric Washington on nbcsportschicago.com explaining why he was a great choice for our DC. I was super impressed with the interview quotes from previous players that he tutored. Seems like he has a reputation for being an outstanding teacher. He also has a lot of experience in the schemes Flus uses. Good read. Brian Burns praise, stellar resume show why Bears hired Eric Washington as DC

Without a doubt. I think he was wrongly accused. The case is closed. I would love to see him in a Bears uniform. He would be a vast improvement for our STs and help with field position for out D.

Sounds like an A+, 4.0 to me. Hard to see how he could accomplish more in 2 years with what he was given to work with when hired. Pace left the team in ruins. Poles had to resurrect it from the ashes of a once proud franchise. I look forward to see what he has in store for us this year.

LOL, there you go again. You are obsessed with him hugging Fields. I'm sure owners, HCs, Coaches, (probably janitors, equipment techs, and any kid in the vicinity), and I'm sure some GMs give players a hug. It's really no more than a warm handshake, up close and more personal. ? So let's put a conspirator's twist on his hugging Fields (noting he didn't give him a kiss with tongue, grab him by the balls or play with his ass). Opposing GMs see him hugging Fields and the cost for trading for him goes from a 2nd round pick to a 1st round pick because they realize Poles really does LOVE his QB. LOL

I was surprised to hear the Raiders were interviewing Getsy for their OC opening. Now the Patriots are also interviewing him for his expert play calling (cough, choke, vomit ...) I saw this which might be an interesting explanation, (from windycitygridiron.com) I know nothing about this guy, Berckes, but if he is correct it appears two teams might be scouting via the back door for the possible trade involving Fields.

Eventually we will have a francize QB that we will have to pay mega bucks to keep long term. Those saying we need to get rid of QBs when their rookie contracts expire to help manage the cap have to realize that it is just a normal progression, one we have not had to worry about since our past QBs never justified being paid top dollar. You don't see Mahomes, Allen, Jackson, etc... being cut or traded. They got paid mega bucks. When we find "that guy" we will have no choice but to do so as well. Now, the only question is, will it be Fields or a young stud we draft (hopefully to develop behind Fields as he plays at least one more year in Chicago. <smiling>)

I'm OK with Flus calling plays for the Defense.

The power of positive thinking. ?

You might be right, so let's make sure he brings along Greg Olsen as QB coach so he can groom him to take over after he gets offered a HC gig.

That is all that was said, that it could happen. No one knows if it will happen. If I could forecast the future, I be one rich dude. No one was using the historical data to predict or prove what will happen, only that it has happened in the past. Of course, we are hoping it will happen again. As I said before, it isn't unusual for a first time HC to take over a crappy team in a full rebuild and struggle. If the GM does his job and provides him with a good roster, then hopefully he can provide the team's fans with a playoff & Super Bowl contender. BUT, it takes time and patience.

Ouch, forgot about the injury. You are right. Too much risk. We need a veteran to start day 1 while a rookie develops.