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uh huh see the thing is we are ALL allowed our opinions, and if my opinion is that another opinion is dumb, then that's what it is. Stinger just said he expects Ben Johnson to abandon Caleb in the middle of next year. That's idiotic. If you say stuff like that, it's Ok to disagree with it, and call it what it is: stupid as hell.

I agree. I don't think just cutting Kmet would the right move. It should be a trade. Kmet is the 7th highest paid TE in the league, and he's not even the best TE on the team.

lets go. I just wish we had an injured difference making pass rusher LOL

Not a first round concern, but we may need to add safety to that list, because I dont see Brisker being re-signed? Also, as well as Edmunds has been playing this year, his cap number is really high, and we might need a replacement for him too? Same for DJ Moore, but i think we already have his replacement on the roster in Luther Burden III We might need a TE too, given that Kmet doesn't seem to be worth his $11.6M either?

How sweet would that be?

yes. it's one thing to watch the game on TV, and when I do that, I'm like any fan, I watch the ball, well maybe the OL at the snap, but pretty quickly I'm watching the ball. But when you see the all 22 it all makes sense and is VERY different. If people only watch the TV coverage and then read articles or listen to talking heads, they get one impression. But if you watch the all 22, or even just some plays with analysis, like Jennings, Daniels, OSullivan, Warner etc then you see it in a completely different way.

For sure. And I also think DA scouts film for tendencies, and puts players, by scheme, in position to get INTs too. I think Byard actually said something about it in a post game interview a couple weeks ago, something like 'he told me it would be there'

Yeah but Caleb had 3,500+ yards his rookie season with nothing around him and coaches being fired. Justin has never exceeded 2,562 in ANY season. You might use some of the same words to describe what they need to work on, but they were never at the same level of that? Caleb made plenty of in rhythm throws every week, even as a rookie, Justin rarely did, ever. They are both athletic, but Fields has never shown the ability as a pocket QB that Caleb started with right out of the gate. So I don't think they really compare at all? But i do agree with your point that Caleb is progressing and getting better.

thats very needed. thank you for finding that.

excellent article - says everything. Caleb's not some middle of the pack Trubisky type. He's a guy that shows many plays of being elite, but he still makes inconsistent errors too. Its one thing to try to get a QB to elevate their play, its another to have a QB who already does that, and just needs to iron out inconsistencies. The flashes say he is going to be great. IF Caleb is disciplined and has good coaching (both of which seem evident) then he will make fewer mistakes and all that will be left is an elite QB.

Interesting - I hope this isnt bad news on TJ Edwards. Maybe it's special teams help? Or just playing with the bottom of the roster, which every team should always be doing anyway.

For me, I can see the road ahead for Caleb - I see him improving every week in the mechanics of being an NFL QB. His footwork, his eyes, his timing get better each and every week. For example, Tim Jennings and Chase Daniel both praised multiple plays this week from Caleb that were incomplete. I think some people just watch the game, and count completions and the like, and others watch things like footwork etc. I think we all see an incomplete package, both in Caleb and the offense as a whole. And that's fair. I see that too, and I agree with it. But if you look at Caleb's trajectory week to week and the mechanics of playing the position, you see he is making steady progress every week. So if you trust in Ben Johnson, all the evidence says we are on our way to something special. Of course at each level, you have to reach it before anyone can say you've arrived there. But it can also be seen that so far, the progress has been steady, so it's a pretty good bet that Caleb will get there. As for comparisons to Trubisky - I really don't see it. Not if you look at the mechanics, and the growth curve. Not if you look at what's happening, and WHY. The media narrative is shifting on him, soon they'll be overpraising him. Maybe some already are. And maybe that will change some minds, but it shouldn't. You've got a young QB here who has all the tools to be one of the greatest ever. He's obviously not there, but I can't think of another young QB I'd rather ride into the future with. The guy is special. It's hard to miss. It's just not consistent yet. But it's getting better every single week.

Sold? oh for sure youre right. No one is sold. He isnt top 5 until he's top 5, I think we all agree that. I just meant sees the talent, the ceiling.

for sure unpopular opinions can be true. I've had some here, and they turned out to be true. So have other people. But if anyone thinks Caleb and JF are similar players, that's like arguing that a football is square? Or that we should fire Ben Johnson right now. Its CRAZY.

Hell, Caleb is 13th in the league by yards right now. Honestly, everyone on this board sees it except for one person. Im not trying to be mean, but we spend an awful lot of time on this one person's awful takes - myself maybe most of all, to be fair.