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yeah like an intro to the class. so the names are familiar when you start to really look into them?

Breaking News: Sources say Eberflus will NOT be the new DC for Atlanta lol

right, especially at this time of year, it's crap. guesses are fine, but they dress them up like facts.

yeah, dead zone is the wrong term, youre right. I mean like you said, an area where you pay more for the same level of talent. Also, when they rate players, they rate them as prospects. So a guy like Monangai, they saw some things, but saw him lacking in others. He was a bigger gamble, so rated lower. But once they get into the NFL, a lot has to do with the coaching and how they grow. If your scouts think a player is coachable and has hidden skills, then you take that gamble and see. And as a 7th rounder, it wasnt much risk. So you can find excellent players in the 3rd and 4th round and beyond, but theyre bigger gambles, (at least in most teams eyes) and thats why they fall. The most fun is when a player is rated lower but a bunch of teams think he's a hidden gem. So hes not really hidden, but his public rank is lower than the teams might have him. I think Banks and Loveland fit that category. The teams had discovered them, but the pundits hadnt. The draft is an unweildy and complicated bitch! lol

Yes, and also no one knows right now anyway. Let's say, for example, that the Bears want to trade for Crosby. They have a price in mind, and so do the Raiders. Maybe they want too much, maybe another team is outbidding what were willing to pay. So its not just that there is bad info out there, it's that even the main people themselves, like poles, dont know what will happen at this point in the year? The best we can do is guess. And my guess is that we are more likely to end up with Hendrickson, since he's a free agent, than Crosby or Garrett who we would have to trade for. But is there a cheaper DE free agent that our scouts think is about to take a major step? I dunno. So at this point in the year there are only logical guesses. In a month we will hear actual rumors that still arent for sure, but we might hear where the activity is. But right now? It's an information wasteland.

Yeah Ive been thinking - 25 is in that dead zone where you pay more, but get the same level of talent as you do in the early part of the 2nd round. I wouldnt be surprised at all if we traded out of that pick. Possibly UP for a difference maker, or more likely, down for extra picks. Maybe to a QB hungry team like you suggest. That makes sense. I think this offseason is going to be very dynamic with cuts, trades, surprises. We've all seen how Poles and Johnson are aggressive in making changes, and the defense surely needs and overhaul. I think it's going to be a fun and bumpy ride.

I do remember last year I wanted LT Kelvin Banks. All the other ranking sites had him going in the 20s, but Draft Buzz had him going before our 9th pick a lot, almost every time. And they nailed it. In general I tend to think DraftBuzz is the most realistic one, but that also makes it less fun I guess At any rate, I feel like DraftBuzz is that cold sobering buzzkill (lol) site that keeps us from thinking we're gonna get a top ten player in the 20s lol

DraftBuzz is tough for sure, but they may be more accurate as well. But try adjusting the random number to something other than the default "2" and youll get different outcomes i think?

I found a new draft simulator. I dunno if its good or realistic, but Ive enjoyed playing around with it. Of course, without Free Agency it can only mean so much. But I keep drafting 1 DT Kayden McDonald Ohio State 2 Edge Zion Young Missouri 3 ILB Jacob Rodriguez Texas Tech I havent done any homework, so I might love or hate these guys in a couple months LOL Anyway, heres the site: https://sticktothemodel.com/draft/simulator

I havent done any work yet, so I have no idea, but that does sound good.

ugh. at that point, and figuring it takes a few games to get back to form, he'd have missed most of the season. Maybe that mid tier Free Agent is looking more possible. I sure hope Poles finds a way to clear a bunch of cap space and rebuild the defense while also making sure the LT position is good. It's just, we're not gonna find a sure fire ready to play on day one long term answer at pick 25, and we need the pick for something else anyway. It's gonna have to be Benedet and/or a free agent I guess.

interesting. thats good news then. another offseason with Roushar should help a lot. I wonder when Ozzie will be fully ready. Week 5? Week 8? Any ideas?

if there were no other concerns, Id LOVE to take a LT high. But we're probably talking about a 3rd rounder at best in the draft, and they probably arent going to be better than Benedet. I can see us signing a mid tier free agent maybe, but that costs cap space too. And if we do add another LT by any of these means, I think that means Amagadje is gone. I'll bet the plan is Benedet until Ozzie is ready, with Amagadje, a mid tier free agent, and/or a 3rd round or lower pick competing with him in camp. And Benedet probably wins that, depending on who the free agent is. I thin Benedet did OK this year, and if he can put on some muscle in his base, he should be even better?

hopefully he can put on some lower body strength in the offseason and handle the bull rushes next year. he had a good season for coming in out of nowhere.

And it's not just DJ, the whole WR group has to make more catches.