
ASHKUM BEAR
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Pace might be one of the best in the business with keeping his intentions locked up. It is frustrating but awesome. As for who they might select first overall? Looking at and doing many mock drafts daily, chances are a player we want/need will not be there. The player and the team are both working the system to try and shape the draft to their likings. We need teams below us to want to trade up and I would prefer someone between slots 15-20 and gain a 3rd. My targets would be Vernon Butler, Eli Apple or William Jackson. If all else fails and we stay at 11, I see A'shawn Robinson as our pick. I could not imagine how sweet the draft would be if we succeed gaining a 3rd. 1-Vernon Butler DT 2-Xavien Howard CB 3-Le'Raven Clark/Jason Spriggs OT 3-Jeremy Cash/Miles Killebrew S 4-Nick Vannett/Jerell Adams TE 4-Dak Prescott/Connor Cook/Christian Hackenberg QB 5-Tyler Ervin/Kenyan Drake RB 6-Dadi Nicholas/Travis Feeney OLB
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I like him more as a developmental OLB. Give him a year of weights to add 10# of muscle and he may be a good edge rusher. His numbers were down this season bc I believe he played DE and was undersized.
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1- He is a Crete-Monee kid, we have back a neighbor connection to talk with him. 2- Alshon may not want to play in Chicago? 3- Showing interest may spring a team to select him before #11. 4- Due diligence on "BPA"
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Fanspeak's mock draft using "With the First Pick's" Big Board: This is comical, like playing fantasy football with grade school kids. 1 - Ezekiel Elliott RB 2 - DeForest Buckner DT 3 - Jeremy Cash SS 4 - Darron Lee LB 4 - Joe Haeg OT 5 - Nick Martin C/G 6 - Deiondre' Hall CB 6 - Yannick Ngakoue OLB 7 - David Morgan TE
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I don't think the Bears signed Bolden yet. He is supposed to visit next week is the last I heard.
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I think Hill's receiving role could blossom like Bennett's. I think it takes longer for them to read and understand NFL defenses, so they are either WRs or extra blockers starting off. Once they get up to speed and coaching can trust them, they can become the multi-dimensional TE. I also think we have a solid TE core if the Saints do not match. Housler was a 3rd RD pick if I recall right, he should be able to get in the mix also. Lee is still raw but we thought highly enough of him to make a trade. I wonder how many TEs they will keep? I would think Housler would be out if they draft TE high.
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I would do both. After the top prospects: Tunsil, Ramsey, Bosa, Jack, Buckner, and Stanley I think the next group of 20 players are equivalent so trading down would be great. In RDs 2-4, I hope we do move up to take advantage of that solid middle.
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We could also move down some too. I think if Goff is there we may find a suitor. Funny thing is Pace is saying this draft is deep while I read Gabriel say it is about 4 rds deep. If Pace feels that way he may feel good about dropping some.
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He almost looks like a younger Jerry Angelo
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Adam, you usually run this a couple weeks before the draft. We are about 36 days away! Was wondering since it is getting close if we can get something started, would like to see us at least get 4 rounds in or more. A thought I had was instead of picking teams, have a rule in place like you cannot make a selection if you selected 5 picks ago (or any # thought reasonable). That way any member can contibute without waiting. We can tag links to notable boards to find team needs and player rankings. I am getting geeked up already and thought if there are any thoughts we can discuss
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I figured once FA slowed down they would revisit this. They had plenty of time to set it aside. Hopefully they can come to an agreement that makes everyone happy.
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I used to subscribe to the Huddle Report. It was a decent site, hardly visit it anymore.
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TE's seem to take 2-3 years before they are up to speed, so signing a young FA who may be ready to break out might be a better route. I think Hunter Henry will be good, but do the Bears want to use their 2nd RD pick if he is there? There are a few other prospects worth consideration and I wouldn't be surprised if the Bears still draft one later even if they sign Hill.
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The solid part of FA is over,what is left to do
ASHKUM BEAR replied to Stinger226's topic in Bearstalk
If they re-sign Montgomery, he would mainly be a back up at C only and most likely don't dress on Sunday's. You have to be versatile unless you are the starter anymore, so the G route makes the most semse. Vasquez would be a good addition. -
The solid part of FA is over,what is left to do
ASHKUM BEAR replied to Stinger226's topic in Bearstalk
What about adding another quality G and having Slaussen as your back up C? I have no beef with bringing back Montgomery either, but considering all options. I hear the draft is only about 4 rounds deep this year, from Gabe Gabriel. We will see how good Pace is if that is true -
The solid part of FA is over,what is left to do
ASHKUM BEAR replied to Stinger226's topic in Bearstalk
They might be done until after the draft. Hard to tell without laying out the roster and looking at. With 9 picks, they will have a lot of bodies in camp. I also think they do a lot of moving on draft day. I don't think they stay at 11 unless Stanley, Buckner, or Ramsey for some crazy reason fall. -
It will depend on who is available. We could get the #2 OT, #2 DT, #1 RB, #1WR etc, take the guy that will make the biggest difference for years.
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Perfect! My point too, but much better
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Nice, looks like Aaron Hernandez part 2. Pass
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Andrew Quarless is rated as a decent blocking TE. I am surprised we haven't heard his name, but he may not even want to talk to the Bears. Some players take playing for a rival serious, even over money.
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OLB is a luxury pick IMO, we have McPhee, Houston, and Young taking a big chunk of $. I think using a 5, 6, or 7 is the way to go here. Hunter Henry I assume? I think he has late 1st RD potential after looking over past drafts...but does the past 5-6 years look promising? ROUND 1 2014 - Eric Ebron RD1-10 2013 - Tyler Eifert RD1-21 2010 - Jermaine Gresham RD1-21 ---- ROUND 2 2015 - Maxx Williams RD2-55 2014 - Austin Seferian-Jenkins RD2-38 2014 - Jace Amaro RD2-49 2014 - Troy Nikolas RD2-52 2013 - Zach Ertz RD2-35 2013 - Gavin Escobar RD2-47 2013 - Vance McDonald RD2-55 2012 - Coby Fleener RD2-34 2011 - Kyle Rudolph RD2-43 2010- Rob Gronkowski RD2-42 To me, TE is a hard dart to land. Many higher round prospects take a couple years to produce. Housler was a 3rd RD pick, maybe he is ready to come around? Prescott RD4, I am in!
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Ward was one of the only d-lineman left by RD4, I didn't see Oakman bc they had him in as 5T, kind of like Jaylon Smith was only LB (not ILB/OLB)? I used Walters board and they had the DT's all top 60, so they were gone by RD3.
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Fanspeak updated finally. Stanley fell in this one. I got some good D at decent places. I will take this one Lol. 11: R1P11- OT RONNIE STANLEY - NOTRE DAME 41: R2P10- CB XAVIEN HOWARD- BAYLOR 72: R3P9- S JEREMY CASH - DUKE 107: R4P8- DE JIHAD WARD- ILLINOIS 128: R4P29 - LB JAYLON SMITH- NOTRE DAME 151: R5P11 - 5T SHAWN OAKMAN - BAYLOR 186: R6P10- TE DAVID MORGAN- TEXAS-SAN ANTONIO 207: R6P31 - OLB DADI NICOLAS - VIRGINIA TECH 231: R7P- K ROBERTO AGUAYO - FLORIDA STATE
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I could believe it, did some digging on the last decent bunch of TE's. Not much talent after RD3 in 2013. Still not sure I want the Bears using that 2nd on TE, that is hard to swallow. Hunter Henry Ark 28 409 4td 37 513 2td 51 739 3td 1-21 Tyler Eifert ND CIN 27 352 2 td 63 803 5 td 50 685 4 td 2-35 Zach Ertz Stan Phi 16 190 5 td 27 346 4 td 69 898 6 td 2-47 Gavin Escobar SD St DAL 3-63 Travis Kelce Cin KC 3-85 Jordan Reed Flor WAS
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TE Henry in our slot in the 2nd seems too high. That is how most of our rounds feel, that we have to reach for needs. I would wait for the 4th and afer before we go TE, Vannett, Higbee, Adams, Morgan etc.