
ASHKUM BEAR
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Everyone here is talking about the same thing over and over again while there is other news to discuss. Looks like Poles is going with Bates at C and maybe a rookie if one is there in the 4th. Lloyd Cushenberry C sign w Ten 4 yr 50 Tyler Biadasz C signs w Was 3 yr 30 Andre James C - resigns with LV 3 yr 24 Aaron Brewer C signs with Mia 3 yr 21 Mitch Morse C sign w Jax 2 yr 10.5
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Not sure if this was posted. Justin Jones signs with Arizona.l, 3 years 30 million, 19.75 guaranteed.
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Denver is rumored to be looking to move up and draft a QB.
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And he answered the phone call from Pitt. He will get them back to being a good team
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He wants to get back to the top and a team like Pit, Tampa, or Atl will be calling. No way he would want to come here knowing CW will be drafted
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The debate is over. We know what's going to happen and the biggest debacle is going to be what do we do with JF. The Bears need to optimize the value, which might be low now. If it doesn't increase, the Bears cannot give it away. I am not on the board that having CW and JF in the same locker room will be bad. They might not even share the locker room by the time the season starts because they will be ready to pull the trigger once they get the value they are looking for. JFs contract was fully guaranteed, so he is paid for until it ends. There might be offset language saying the team they trade him too picks up that contract, but I have not read that. I feel in order for Poles to trade, he wants a low 1st or high 2nd with maybe a 4th or 5th.
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Seems like the Saquan story is heating up. I am not a big fan on investing high on RBs, the same way on LB, but that is where Poles invested last year. If Poles brings in Clowny or Floyd, I would consider that a higher level investment. Since I do not see the Bears spending their 9th pick on DE, they need someone who can fill the spot for possibly 2 years. DE might be their top priority in the 2025 draft and they would want someone locked in for the rookie to compete against.
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I'd like to think Poles gets one more big name. The Bears are getting to the point that if they are going to contend, they need to get a starting #2 DE or WR in FA because they can only get one in the draft. I'm not suggesting 20 million deal but possibly a 12-15.
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The Chicago Bears are on the clock! OFFSEASON OPEN THREAD!
ASHKUM BEAR replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
He would be better than any rookie we would draft this year. I also think they interview a couple others. -
The Chicago Bears are on the clock! OFFSEASON OPEN THREAD!
ASHKUM BEAR replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
A president needs good people to do the leg work. The Bears have the stadium and the team to get right. His name is on top of it all, so it is his stamp. It would be nice in a way to see something done in the city and the team contending for years. -
Bingo, no more darts. They have Bates, Keeney, and Kramer already. Get the prospect who will lock it down and put it to rest.
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The Chicago Bears are on the clock! OFFSEASON OPEN THREAD!
ASHKUM BEAR replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
I see it the other way around with the locker room and fans. Once CW gets playing time and everyone sees his ability, the feelings will change. JF won't be unprofessional, heck, he might light it up knowing his time is coming to an end. Then come trade deadline and the demand will be higher. I don't want the Bears to lose value in him. There is a way to increase it if it doesn't happen by the draft. -
The Chicago Bears are on the clock! OFFSEASON OPEN THREAD!
ASHKUM BEAR replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
The Packers drafted Love, Arob wasn't happy but didn't demand a trade. You can make a fuss and threats, but that doesn't help anyones case. CW shouldn't panic or fuss either over competition knowing JF is on his last year. If he cannot handle another QB to compete against or hold a clip board for then is he gonna be man enough to be a Chicago QB? -
The Chicago Bears are on the clock! OFFSEASON OPEN THREAD!
ASHKUM BEAR replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
Even JF doesn't know what the plan is and said he wishes this to get over soon. Poles has said he will be upfront with JF and he would be the first to know. That writing tells me the Bears are open to all scenarios and nothing is being leaked. If the Bears get a offer they like for either diection, they will move. Poles at the combine said he stays up late running scenarios through his head, undecided. Since the locker room is behind JF, Poles has to weigh all aspects and the best route might be holding on to him and drafting CW since the trade cupboard is bare. Get a #2 WR at 9 if a top 3 is there and let the QBs compete. You have a veteran to let CW grow and the Bears can let JF increase his value. -
Glad the date is approaching fast. Maybe Poles trades JF to a team in cap trouble, especially at QB. I'd think Denver contacted Poles to trade Wilson for Fields while throwing in a couple picks too
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It takes the right balance since the D is in more nickel or dime these days. Poles did well by building a backfield with 4 good CBs to go with Brisker and whoever they sign at fs. The killer is they need another stud at WR and DE, so pick 9 will be one of those or a trade down.
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If he can get Xavier McKinney, the backfield will be the best in the NFL. The best cover safety and cover CB will give the front 7 time to get knock the QB out of rhythm. The only issue is Brisker will want to get paid next year and a higher priced FS may make him a tough signing.
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I would love to see them get Frazier or Van Pran in Aprl to help settle the C position once and for all. That would tell me how serious he is if he gets a long term fix planted this offseason.
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Fields was mishandled by the Bears and he never developed. He could possibly turn it around, but with the top pick in the draft and a QB like CW that only comes every 5 to 10 years, the Bears cannot pass on the opportunity. As exciting as getting the biggest draft haul in history can be, the Bears would be a QB away from winning it all. We watched it with Rex. Many fans feel bad for JF, we know he was and will be done wrong, but the game is about a trophy and starting fresh with a QB with CW talent gives the Bears the best shot for many years.
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Poles oline acquisitions. Many darts and resources used early on hoping to strike gold. He did find nuggets in BJones and Wright. 2022 draft 5- Braxton Jones LT 6- Zachary Thomas OL 6-Doug Kramer C 7-Jayre Carter OG 2022 Free agency Alex Leatherwood OT claimed Lucas Patrick C signed Riely Rief OT signed Michael Schoelfield OL signed Julian Davenport OT signed Jean Delance OT UDFA Corey Dublin OL UDFA 2023 draft 1-Darnell Wright RG 2023 free agency Nate Davis G Bobby Haskins OT UDFA Loren Metz OT UDFA Gabe Huey G UDFA Josh Lugg T UDFA Nick Amoah T UDFA Roy Mbaeteka T International 2023 Trade Dan Feeney OL 2024 Trade Ryan Bates OL
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My Bears first FA target: FS Xavier McKinney- 24 yrs old - top cover corner. Between him and JJ, QBs will have a hard time finding open wrs.
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JJ can finally hit the market and see his worth. Poles feels his offer is inline to what teams would pay. It does really limit JJ, but a team like Baltimore, for example,can make him an offer knowing it's 2 firsts should be near the 30s. Hopefully, JJ gets some interest and comes back home.
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Poles isn't afraid to trade picks or players. Trading our 4th and 5th for depth G/C's has me a little concerned since Feeney seems like a wasted move and using the pick on C Doug Kramer. Seems like we are throwing many darts at an important position and missing the board. This move tells me he has another move in his mind to get some draft value back and it scares me if the plan is moving out from no1.
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Guard/Center- where does Poles see him playing? Is he moving Davis or Jenkins?
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Keep them coming Mongo, enjoying the stories. Sure wish the Bears went after him. It would have brought back that 85 hype. The HC would have taken the lime light and injected new life into the team.