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Very few early 1st Rd QBs come out with fanfare. The majority do not. There was little fanfare for guys like Winston and Mariota who most here would have hated had we traded up to pick them. Cam Newton had tons of question marks when he went #1 overall. Tannehill went #8 overall with little QB experience. Wentz and Goff last year had zero fanfare as sure fire starters. They were just the best options. Expecting to wait and hit on someone in Rd 2-4 is likely to be a long wait because the hits are fewer and farther between. I understand the comment about a GM losing his job if they guess wrong on a QB at #3 overall but it really doesn't matter what round they guess in, it's the failure of finding a starting QB that leads to the unemployment line. If it's my job and I had to pick one QB from this entire draft class to be my future starter you can bet I want to choose first. If the decision is that there is not one starter quality QB then we don't pick one at all in the entire draft because we already have backup quality QBs in guys like Hoyer. There are drafts where zero starting QBs are drafted but usually there is at least one. For those who feel confident in Belichick's ability to sniff out the late round QB gem, last year the Patriots chose Brissett in Rd 3 ahead of Dak Prescott.

I'm a Iowa State Cyclones fan and I always felt like Beathard was helping to level the playing field. Too bad he can't stay another year.

Just to play devil's advocate for a bit. There is no position in pro sports that is harder to fill than NFL QB. Brady is very close to the end of his career but even if he can make it 2-3 more seasons, if JimmyG is a valid top 15 NFL QB do you really think the "geniuses" that run the Patriots would let him go? Even if Belichick wants to end his career at the same time as Brady I'm pretty sure the owner wants a successful team once they leave. Why would he let go of his next starting QB? Does Kraft think it's more logical to wait for his brand new front office/HC to find his next Pro Bowl QB? I'm certain he'd trust Belichick's opinion a lot more than anyone else in the NFL. JimmyG had an entire preseason to prepare for his first game or two. These were games where the opponents had no idea what his strengths and weaknesses were, and what plays they'd be running. Yes it's the same offense but every QB makes certain throws and reads better plus it's the beginning of the season and there are always new twists, twists the coaching staff had all offseason to put in place for JimmyG. IMO there's a ton of caveat emptor in this deal. We can go back and scout him again to compare his college tape against the current college QBs. If I get intensely bored one of these weekends I'll go back in Game Pass and watch his game against AZ. Right now I don't see anything that would make me want him ahead of either Trubisky or Kizer. Watson has his issues but he's performed at the highest level of college football, and against a lot of future NFL talent. I'd be much more comfortable taking him ahead of Garoppolo. http://draftbreakdown.com/video/jimmy-garo...-illinois-2013/

They are his words not mine. He is the one who said RGIII was a "can't miss prospect". If you read the article you'd know that he didn't choose Luck, his owner did. Of course he was let go before the draft so he never really made the decision anyway.

I liked Magazu, thought he did a good job here.

Patrick Mannelly suggested we trade back in the 1st Rd and pick up another 1st Rd pick. Use the higher first round pick to select your DB or player of choice, trade the later 1st Rd pick to NE for Garrapolo. I know nothing about JimmyG but I assume Pace and Fox do since they practiced against him for 3 days. The downside to that is he was throwing against our secondary. There are zero assurances when drafting a QB. I'll stick with Trubisky because I like the physical tools and I think he has the mental makeup to succeed long term. I don't think he suffers from Goff's tendency to toss a prayer when under pressure. Opinions are like... everyone's got one and we're not always right. http://www.theindychannel.com/sports/colts...s-us-through-it “We explained they both as athletes and football players were can’t-miss,” Polian said. “We explained where Andrew was in his stage of development, where RG3 was in his stage of development, particularly because he played in a spread offense and there was going to be an adjustment period because of that.” “I believed at the time they were can’t-miss (prospects). I still said on draft day on ESPN they were both can’t-miss.”

Off to Texas... http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/bears-l...ayton-to-texas/

If there is one QB in this draft who will give you deja vu of a younger Jay Cutler watch this game of Josh Allen: http://draftbreakdown.com/video/josh-allen-vs-nebraska-2016/

While the link is not updated for 2017 here's last year's mock with us taking Floyd at #11. This board was shown to be among the most accurate mock drafts for the last few years (some article someone posted last year) so I bookmarked it. http://draftboardguru.com/mockdraft/

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I don't advocate keeping Cutler around just saying that it is an option. Any reworked deal would not include guaranteed money. I really think at this point it is best for both parties to simply move on. Pace has to take this young roster toward the future and Cutler will not be part of that. We're 2-3 years away from competing in the playoffs.

I think he comes back as part of the mix with Shaw and Hoyer and a rookie. We haven't cut Cutler either so it's possible he reworks his deal and stays in Chicago for another year. Cutler is still our best QB option for the moment.

Trubisky is still my pick. I saw nothing from Jonathan Allen in his last game to make me think he's a guy who will command double teams in the NFL. Alabama's need to blitz when they have two top 20 NFL draft picks in your front 4 is worrisome. That's backed up by another top 20 player in Foster ILB, and on the outside CB Humphrey. Not gonna fault the coaches for the calls since they had to win the game and Washington had no answers for the blitzes they threw at them. I was expecting to see something more in line with what I saw from the Clemson DTs: Guys breaking through double teams to blow up plays all game long. He did a great job sniffing out the one screen play other than that he looked like an average good DE. I'm not saying he's a bad player but for the #1 or #2 overall pick in the draft I expected a lot more. Trubisky didn't play well either in his last game but QB is still a far higher need position in the NFL.

New Years Even update have a lot of changes among the top 10 draft eligible players. As always I prefer CBS/NFLDdraftscout.com rankings and player profiles. http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/prospectrankings Notable changes have Jonathan Allen at #1 overall ahead of Garrett. Jabrill Peppers at #3 Dalvin Cook RB #4 Cam Robinson OT #5 most surprisingly Deshaun Watson QB at #6 overall Fournette has dropped to 9th on the list but having 2 RB among the top 10 players, if it holds, will be interesting on draft day. I'm not interested in Watson but I certainly hope some other team is, especially in the top 5. Seeing one LT in the top 10 means he'll be a target worthy of a trade up for teams with a need.

It's early and there's much tape to view but another player I like a lot is Jamal Adams. I'd take him well before I take Peppers because his coverage skills are better.

I think he needs just 61 yards. Minn will be going all out to shut him down early and force Barkley to throw (as would any of us).

I still like Trubisky 1st with Kizer as my 2nd choice. Neither is ready to play as a rookie. It's pretty obvious Trubisky's coaches screwed up by not putting him as the starter a year earlier instead deferring to a senior. I won't fault Trubiskly for kicking the crap out of lesser competition as I wish a Bears QB would do that once in a while. Then he struggles against better competition that he hasn't seen much of? The question is can he learn from it. I think he can. The physical tools are all there. Kizer has the most physical talent and if a coach can get him to stop rushing his passes at times (where he seemingly doesn't step into his throws correctly), and learn to read a defense he'll have a very good career. The best thing for Kizer will be getting away from the mess that is Notre Dame football and Brian Kelly. He'll do just that as he prepares for the draft and I think he'll shine in workouts. After tonight, Watson just removed himself from my list. After his 3 seasons of experience he's still playing inconsistently and making bad reads which doesn't bode well for his NFL career. He's just good enough to tease as a #2/starter in the NFL, and will probably have a long career as a #2. I have a feeling some team, or owner, will be impressed with the 31-0 victory over OSU and that'll make him a 1st Rd selection. I prefer a mid-round chance on Mahomes.

Not having a QB of the future on your roster after 3 offseasons can also get a GM fired.

Our QB position is completely up in the air. If Cutler were just his normal self you could say we at least know what we have there but he's getting surgery on his throwing shoulder. Every team on that list except for one has stability at the QB position. I think the worst QB scenario of those 9 teams is Bortles. The exception on the QB list is Denver and they had the best defense a year ago. I think they are mis-reading the tea leaves on Denver myself as they seem to be destined to another year with mediocre QB play and a good (maybe not great) defense keeping them around .500. Figure in that Oakland is on the rise and KC is also a good team and they won't have an easy path to winning their division next year.

As George Thorogood said I stand alone (ok, he said he drinks alone). We are either grabbing a QB this year, or next year. Either way it's going to expensive in terms of draft picks. Next year I don't anticipate we'll be picking in the top 10. We might as well trade back into the 1st and grab someone like Kizer if he's still there, or take Watson.

I disagree with that somewhat because it seemed like Langford was getting a few more looks in the last game, 7 carries being the most he's had since week 2. I think they will likely do the same this week and if Howard gets the record why not give Langford more reps? We need to know more about Langford going into the offseason.

I don't know that we can pass on Garrett but Allen is a bit different. I'd love to have Allen in the defensive front with Goldman and Hicks but he's not Ndamukong Suh who went #2 overall. Plus when it comes to evaluating Allen we have to consider that there's a ton of NFL talent playing with him. Alabama has 4 defensive players ranked in the top 18 of the draft, and another DT that's considered a top 25 pick in 2018.

Few QB classes have a player that ranks #1 overall. Question marks have surrounded every 1st Rd QB in recent years with the one exception of Andrew Luck. This year Trubisky and Kizer are no different and there is zero reason for anyone to think NFL history will not repeat itself with both these QBs going top 10, if not top 5. 2016 Goff #1, Wentz #2 2015 Winston #1, Mariota #2 2014 Bortles #3 overall 2013 EJ Manuel went #16 ouch 2012 Andrew Luck #1, RGIII #2 2011 Cam Newton #1, Jake Locker #8, Gabbert #10 2010 Sam Bradford #1, Tebow #25 (yikes) 2009 Stafford #1, Mark Sanchez #5, Josh Freeman #17 2008 Matt Ryan #3

I don't think Loggains is going anywhere. Certainly there were some things that could have been done better but overall what he did with 3 different QBs and missing his top 3 WRs at times was decent. It is interesting when you compare some of his overall stats (yd/play) against Gase and Loggains ran the better offense. http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2016/12/2...raise-adam-gase "Chicago’s offense averaged 344.6 yards per game last year with Adam Gase calling plays and they averaged 5.4 yards per play on the 2015 season. This year under Loggains the O is at 351.6 yards per game and 5.9 yards per play. Until I actually looked those numbers up, I just assumed that Gase’s O would have been bigger."

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