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Ton of work, lots of permutations. Toss in the variables of college football injuries and it gets crazier. For me after we play Carolina in Wk 10 we'll have an idea of just how bad they are and what is realistic for them in the draft. By then we'll also have a sense if we pick top 10, or top 20.

Yeah, after I mentioned him I went and looked him up out of curiosity. I was also surprissed to see his numbers were good. A game against a bad Bears defense certainly helped.

Over at Pro Football Reference they have Field with the highest TD% in the league. On the flip side he’s bottom 10 on INT%.

And yet they shall remain nameless. I have a sneaky suspicion it’s not Russell Wilson.

Absolutely not. He’s got nothing more to give than Dom Rob so might as well let the younger player try to improve. Or at least save the money.

Not only the shorter stature he has a bit of a sidearm throwing motion which means the ball is coming out low. I know he goes flat out sidearm intentionally on some throws but there are many quick releases where the arm drops. IMO he's a better prospect than any QB was in 2022. However, if Justin continues to develop toward top 10 QB performance there is no way I'm drafting Williams. At that point Fields has enough talent to win with and because of (meaning he'll win you some games on his own). Cap space means nothing, I want wins, playoff wins, and I'm not taking a chance on another rookie if I don't have to. I also like Fields' leadership in the locker room and his work ethic. I think those are very important traits to have in a QB. That can make a team where the whole is greater than the sum of the parts. If Fields struggles or is inconsistent then bring on Williams. I agree this game against Minn will tell us quite a bit.

Yes but subtracting Mustipher is a net gain. Even if we started the season with Patrick.

What is your source because everywhere I look I find them with a high blitz rate? Here they say 58% rate based off PFF data. Maybe everyone is using this PFF stat. https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/why-vikings-blitz-heavy-approach-could-backfire-against-chiefs-and-patrick-mahomes/ “The Vikings are blitzing 58% of the time in four games this season, the highest by any team in a season since 2017 when PFF began tracking blitzes. It's also the highest blitz rate by any team in any four-game span since the Ravens in 2019. “

Winning felt good. I want another victory.

It's all blind squirrel theory. PFF is going to find a nut now and then. It's ok for us to congratulate them when they get one right.

Wow. At least Dexter and Wright have passed the eye test (mine) that they had a good game. I haven't seen enough of Terell Smith but maybe I'll go back and watch some the game I recorded. Relying on rookies is painful early in the season but if you have the right players it builds the core of the team faster. The second half of this season could be interesting. ..edit: forgot to say my usual I don't like PFF... too subjective. That's why I want to go back and look closer at what Smith did.

I was only able to catch the last 4 min but they were good minutes. Love's INT to Watson in the endzone saw a flailing Watson complaining that he was pushed off. He wasn't, he was just too weak to come back and fight for the ball that was underthrown by several yards. Then Green Bay's revamped D couldn't stop the run and allowed too much time to run off the clock as they gave up 2 or 3 first downs.

I was able to watch some of the Vikings-Chiefs game. Their defense will be the biggest challenge as the new DC Flores loves to bring pressure. Adam can likely jump in here with some stats but IIRC the announcers were saying they are one of the top teams to bring pressure in the NFL so far this year. There is no doubt they'll bring lots of pressure against us as it's either a run blitz or an extra guy to get after Fields and contain him from running. The flip side to any team choosing that approach is the big play potential with the right play calls and execution. The screen game takes a hit with Herbert out. The Vikings haven't been good against the pass so if he gets protection Fields should be able to find players open for quick passes. Can he pull the trigger? The Vikings offense feasts on the pass so certainly losing Jefferson impacts them but they were still able to move the ball against KC. We're also the worst pass defense in the NFL. As with any game against Cousins the key is pressure. We don't even need sacks just get him off his spot and make him uncomfortable. Maybe some home field noise can help with the rush. We're going to need another big game out of the offense to win this one and likely need to win the time of possession battle.

He's starting to read some plays too. Caught a couple screens. Long way to go but for just his 5th week in the NFL he was impacting quite a few plays on the pass rush.

First off I like Coach Hoke and think he'll do good things with the DBs. It's hard to know much with so many depth players seeing time on the field already this season. With new pieces everywhere on a scheme extremely reliant on assignment discipline. I see people asking for more variety in scheme in coverages too but again, how much of that can you do effectively with a practice squad guy and two rookies out there? Dline... Dexter has clearly improved from his college tape yet is nowhere near where I think he can get to. Pickens has much to learn and with less physical talent than Dexter will take longer to show up consistently. Justin Jones continue to play at a backup level and he's not going to be any different ever at this point in his career. Billings has looked good. Edge... DRob is playing better and setting the edge far better than he did last year. He's not getting anywhere on pass rush so that's either going to take another offseason or he plateaus this year. We still have to remember he's a oonverted WR still learning his new position. At least his trend is upward. Ngakoue is doing what he has always done but he's been a little stouter against the run than I expected. He's still a player who often needs help from inside pressure to get his sacks. LBs... I'm not worried about long term. Each week there are more splash plays, some of that as the Dline comes together, some no doubt from time in the scheme. Washington totally abandoned the run to feast on our poor coverage and lack of pass rush. Of course the score had a lot to do with that but giving up 29yd rushing is good even if it's for one half. Oline... better this year is Carter who wasn't good enough to get snaps last year. Borom has made a big improvement. He's still limited in his agility but he's clearly better. Jenkins was moved inside and developed into a really good OG. In his half game against Wash he was pretty good against some Pro Bowl DTs. Using his injury history against his development history is comparing apples to oranges. At LT Jones developed quickly from a 5th Rd pick to starter level player. He's better this year than last year too and is one of the better run blocking LTs in the league. Darnell Wright continues to get better each week. WR... still waiting but if there were one guy who has gotten better here I'd say it's ESB. TE... Kmet has clearly improved the last 2 seasons. QB... Hard to say Justin isn't getting better. I don't like the long drawn out approach to the breakdowns but they did a good job highlighting Wright's performance. I was willing to spend big $ for Daron Payne, Wright controlled him and even made him look like Justin Jones on some plays. He's still learning but experience against different styles of pass rushers over the course of the season will help him.

The more I watch of him ...Davis is pretty good. Wright is also pretty good although he still has mental mistakes from time to time. That's to be expected for a rookie in just his first 5 games. Jenkins had a couple timing glitches on his blocks, to be expected after missing weeks, but he is a beast. Whitehair is a definite improvement over Patrick, minus the snap issues which should get better with more reps. He's under contract through 2024 which gives Poles time to find a good replacement. If they like really him there they might restructure him and add a year in 2025. I doubt that happens for cap space reasons, but regardless that gives Poles 2 offseason's to find his starting center.

Watch the highlights on that play and you'll see a referee literally right there on the sideline watching DJ's feet as he toe taps...no whistle. Then from 20-30 yards behind the play comes another referee blowing his whistle that he was out of bounds. There's just no way that ref could know for sure he was out. Even if you think he might have been out, let it play out and review it. The Amazon broadcast was horrible because they never showed a replay of the sideline view.

Why I think Fields has not improved in one play: We got a TD here at 1:35s in the video to close the game. The TD was nice but this pass was late and as you will see documented in other QB analysis videos it's not the only example. Fields must continue to improve his decision making and release timing on these 5yd routes. 20s into this video is a quick screen pass to DJ which might be the quickest I've seen Fields flip his feet and throw. Maybe there is change starting to happen but he cannot continue being late on these short routes. I'm left thinking we have a good QB for intermediate and deep routes. Give him pass protection where those plays can develop and voila we get TDs. Give him pressure where he has to work the short routes quickly and we get drives that stall. It's not the end of his development as all QBs even the great ones have had aspects of their game they needed to improve upon for years after they entered the league (see Drew Brees). Plus Fields can offset the lack of an effective short passing game with his running ability. He may never be a QB in the Manning/Brady style who can quickly slice and dice a defense. He could be more in the Drew Brees/Roethlisberger style where they need protection good enough to work the deeper routes. Remember Sean Payton saying how critical interior pass protection was for Brees, and how good the Saints were at that for many years. Roethlisberger often bought his own time when he was young, as can Fields but still thrived best with more time to throw. (link won't embed so you'll have to follow to the site) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yVGs_V8aVoQ

Why I think Fields is better using just one more play: Cole Kmet's TD against Denver. He's starting to buy time with his feet. He seemed to do this well early on in his career but then last year just took off running more. This play is very much what you see from Mahomes. So much so that you have to wonder if after the KC game he didn't tell himself I'm going to go do that. In this play with this much green space in front of him I fully expected him to just sprint for the goal line. He did that against Detroit last year. Even Kmet seems to pause briefly at the goal line as if he's thinking he might need to block someone. Then sees Fields flatten his path toward the sideline at which point he starts to drift backwards as the defense moves forward toward Fields. Beyond this play I've now seen in two games multiple drop backs where Fields has been much better sliding around the pocket. Or sliding around pass rushers outside the pocket while keeping his focus down field. After he sort of called out the coaching and said he was thinking too much I expected him to doing the opposite and just taking off on the run.

Why I think Fields is better using one play: Kmet's TD at 43s. He takes his drop and there is pressure from both sides, even Young is almost touching him as he throws the ball. Yet Fields never moved off his spot and waited for Kmet to cross the field. For those who might say he throws late...I'll disagree because he's waiting for Kmet to enter the window between the pass rushers so the ball can't get knocked down. He clearly knows the pressure is there too because as soon as the ball is gone he flinches and steps fwd away from Young. I've seen multiple examples of this in both the Broncos game and Wash. I think this play captures the improvement best because a) it's in the redzone where it's more difficult to read a defense, and b) more tempting to just bolt the pocket when it's not there right away. I didn't see this confidence in the play call (meaning he knows what will happen and when) earlier in the season.

I don't think this statement is valid and being good at the QB position is much more complex than that. I'll just use Fields as the example. There have been plenty of plays in the first 3-4 weeks where he had lots of time in the pocket, with no pressure, and he still held onto the ball even with open receivers. Sports media making that statement (anyone can be good with this much time) were among the people criticizing him for holding onto the ball too long just two weeks earlier. Certainly it is fair to say most QBs look better with more time and less pressure but that doesn't elevate them to top 10 status. If it did you wouldn't see such a big rush on drafting a QB every year. Focus would simply be on taking the QB who fell to you and using the higher 1st Rd picks on Oline. With good Oline play why can't we just throw Bagent out there anytime Fields is struggling. That's because there is another variable beyond pass rush pressure to contend with: Coverage.

As the saying goes: It might be that the purpose of your life is to serve as a warning for others. There is no denying this team has played better on both sides of the ball since Claypool was benched. It's not the typical value we want out of a 2nd Rd pick but Poles and Flus have made their statement that it's team first and anyone not on board is expendable. Especially Poles! So be it.

I give a game ball to the Oline. They held their own against one of the best Dlines in the NFL. DJ Moore was the biggest beneficiary of that time in the pocket.

Yeah it takes away the outside zone run game which is our go to play.

I hate kickoffs. They ruined one of the best plays.