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75 percent prodctive player rate? Terrence Metcalf? No... Lance Briggs? friggin awesome Bernard Berrian? productive, sure wanted paid and don't start where he plays at now tho after getting paid Dusty D? Has no production so far Garrett Wolfe? Not Productive and plays no roll Okwo? not in the league Bennett? Decent but not special Harrison, has been gettin dogged on the boards, not produtive Gilbert and Iglesias, unknown... I see one Kick ass player, 2 productive players and 5 busts so far. I don't think just because you weren't cut, doesn't mean your productive. I see a 37.5 percent productive rate so far with 2 unknowns and a wasted 3rd rounder on a nickle back for a couple years. I guess it's a matter of perspective.

I'm just arguing to argue, sort of. I don't hate any of the WR's on the team. Honestly, outside of this board I'd argue their potential. The biggest need on this team is OL. I think it is by far the biggest need. This offseason, however, thier won't be many upgrades available, especially long term ones. I do whole heartedly disagree the Bears are set at WR and don't need an addition. I feel they need some tallness added to the WR corp. I would love to see a tall vet WR added, but nothing spectacular is going to be avaialbe in FA, and I don't want to see another late round draft pick spent on one. 2 WR's that are an exception to what I want to see added have became "available" or in Boldin's case speculated as available. The addition of Martz and his complicated system seems to be the perfect place for Holt to ressurrect his career, if in fact he still can. He isn't tall, but he brings a familiarity with the system that no other active player can and could make the tranistion from Turner to Martz much smoother. Boldin, while not tall, brings a very physical game with him, which not only this teams WR's lack, but most teams. He's a very special player and think he will improve any team greatly. A team with players still developing like the Bears, he could prove invaluable as a dependable go to guy as the other players develop. I'm not trying to degrade Bennett by comparing him to Wade, btw. He has a stigma in Chicago for muffing punts. He was able to have an extended career in the NFL, even finding time as a starter at times on other teams. That's why I compare Bennett. Partially, to take advantage of that stigma, and because I think he will be that solid back up, and starter if you don't have that kind of player like Wade has done.

Knox to Andersen a couple years ago. Players that showed promise in one area, Andersen failed after get pushed to starting and Knox would too if he gets pushed out of his niche. Bennett to Harrisson. Both are ok starters if you have nothing else, but both have a low ceiling. Iglesias and Gilbert we know nothing about. Wade couldn't hold onto balls onkick returns only. It wasn't a receiving problem. He spent a few years in the league and as far as I know he isn't in it or a starter, which is where I see Bennett. Both are nice 4th WR's. I wouldn't say 3rd cuz I see 3rd as a Hester/knox type. But they are both nice back ups for the starter of their style, so arguably third. Bennett can return punts/kicks or whatever, but that isn't what we are talking about, plus his value as a returner on this team is deminished by the fact Hester will be doing it more, knox made the probowl as a returner, and Mannings return ability.

How exactly did the young trio of WR's seperate themselves a lot more than the young back ups at other positions? Bennet played all 16 games, but did little to nothing to seperate himself as anything more than a Bobby Wade. I love to see Johnny Knox play, but at this point he isn't an everydown WR. He's a very fast WR, but if he goes over the middle, then he is going to get hurts. He's not built to take the abuse. Iglesias is an unknown like much of the others players listed.

Beat me to it lol

You can't get rid of D Line coach that has a pet croc

Right before the defense started slacking, near the end of the season, Hub Arkush was reporting Lovie was taking a much bigger roll in the defense. That's why I always attributed the defenses success to Rivera prior to failures of both Babich and Lovie taking their turns at running the defense, into the ground.

About everything anyone writes on here is their opinion. Last year, my opinion was the offensive line was the biggest hole. I felt WR was the next biggest hole going into the draft. Free Safety was my next biggest hole. The d-line needed help with O-Gun probably going to leave this year, Harris's diminished play and so on. It was basically the same holes. I'm not trying to get into the Orton vs. Cutler thing, just stating that major holes were on the team, still on the team, but it was ok with you to lose much higher picks in that case. JA while thinking QB was a major need, was also wrong at how he addressed most of the rest of the major needs on the team last year. I don't give his opinion much credit, esp. on the offensive side of the ball. Third round contained the Bears 2 highest picks last year. You say that if your other picks are gone you need an immediate contributer from the round, and then say last year's third rounders were bad examples even tho they didn't play. Yes, you can find good players in the third. No, I don't think you can count on immediate contributers in the third round. Boldin's contribution to the team should easily outway the contribution made by any third round pick next year.

You were a big fan of the Cutler trade. QB was far from a gaping hole when it was made. This is less 2 less first round picks for as much of an upgrade at WR as Cutler was at QB. Secondly, how much did last years 3rd round picks do for the Bears? A 3rd is a 3rd, even if it is your top pick.

You're citing last years staffs mistakes and adding them to a completely different staff. Marty Booker had 14 receptions his second run with the Bears. I'm not really sure he is a good example for holding players back. In fact, I'd argue Johnny Knox last year negates this arguement that Booker held Bennett back anyways. Knox played as a rookie. Iglesias, like Bennett, sat his rookie season because he wasn't ready. Look at the WR's you're worried about him holding back. 1) Martz has already called Hester his Az Hakim. 2) Johnny Knox is a completely different WR than Holt, the demotion of Hester will effect him more than Holt. 3) Bennett has shown no potential to be more than a fill in average starter. 4) DA had a couple good games that may have been flukes. However, with the supposed demotion of Hester, he'll have every opportunity to fight for a starting spot with Bennett/Holt. 5) Iglesias couldn't play when they were playing no one with experience. He also looked bad in camp last year, and may not make the team. So basically to me, you are arguing that Holt might hold back DA or Bennett. If DA is the real deal he'll star, period. Bennett would back up him and Holt, which is what his job in the league will probably be for most of his career. If he's not the real deal, then Bennett will start and no one is getting held back at all.

They had Darrell Jackson, Brandon Stokely, and maybe other older WR's on the team. I don't follow the Bronco's much but Royal was better and played. Why be scared to add Holt and give him a shot? If he makes the team better, then awesome. If the other WR's are better then let them play.

I think Holt and Booker are apples and oranges. Booker was great in Chicago 10 years ago, but he was never a great WR. Holt is a potential HoF WR, that would be coming to play with a coach that made him. After his rookie year, Holt had over 1300 years a season for 6 consecutive seasons with Martz until Martz was ousted.

Not sure what to say... I'm glad to see some old Bears get paid, but damn.... really? I felt bad for the guys Boost Mobile Shuffle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nxOSz095_HY Super Bowl Shuffle http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJNC3dgreaU

Beat me to it, here's the link on the Bears site. http://www.chicagobears.com/news/NewsStory.asp?story_id=6521 Let's hope Cutler survives longer than Bulger and Cutler.

I was just looking back at the schedule in retrospect, and damn this is going to be a rough year no matter what coaches are hired. The Bears have games against 3 of the toughest divisions in the NFL, NFC East, AFC East, and their own. Half of their games will be against teams that made it into the play offs this year. They of course play the Packers and Vikings twice. They will host the Eagles, Patriots, and the Jets. Plus, they will travel to the Cowboys this year. I'd hate to call the Lions a give me game. They have been improving, but I'm glad the Bears play them twice. The Bills and Carolina are some what disfunctional, but still pose some what of a challenge. The Dolphins are a really competitive tough team and will get the home field advantage. Then we also get to see Cutler go up against 2 of his favorite coaches in Bates(Seattle) and Shannahan (Washington). Then their will be the Giants looking to rebound with the Bears first pick for DC this year. The team will be basically the same. Free agency will dictate almost no major player movement this year. Their are no high picks for the Bears in the draft this year. A lot of Bears players will obviously be more experienced, but that wil be offset by other players getting older and the fact they will be learning a new scheme on offense and new coordinator on defense. So given that their is no push over Browns and Rams, would a 6-10 season be an improvement, and if so will you be satisfied?

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/football/be...-012910.article Mike Martz interviewing for Bears offensive coordinator job Comments January 29, 2010 BY SEAN JENSEN Staff Reporter Former St. Louis Rams head coach Mike Martz is interviewing for the Bears offensive coordinator job today, and the club may make a decision on the vacancy in the coming days. Martz had spoken to Bears head coach Lovie Smith early in the process, but he finally got an interview today. Minnesota Vikings quarterbacks coach Kevin Rogers is believed to have made a strong impression on the Bears during an interview Thursday, and he or Martz could compel the Bears not to wait for any assistants on the two Super Bowl teams. » Click to enlarge image Mike Martz is interviewing with the Bears today. (AP) But it remains uncertain if it's a two-horse race. The Bears have researched at least one other candidate for the position. There's been no shortage of drama in the club's search to fill their vacancies. The Bears lined up an interview with USC offensive coordinator Jeremy Bates, but he cancelled and accepted a job with the Seattle Seahawks. Meanwhile, their top choice for the defensive coordinator post, Perry Fewell, accepted the same job from the New York Giants.

To me, there is a differnce in mentioning Tice and Marinelli in respect to Plank/(insert random inexperienced play caller's name here). The defense, I don't think an experienced DC is as necissary. Who ever will be placed in this system will be tied and bound to the system Lovie runs. Personally I just want a good motivator on defense that will have his players prepared that comes in with experience in other defenses. Marinelli would be ideal for the DC imo, if not for the fact he is from this system. Both Lovie and Bablich had this D as their background and failed miserabley when they took over the D. OC is different. They are going to have a system ready, be ready to install that system, and answer basically to only themselves on offense. There's a lot more responsibility and this team doesn't need someone trying it for the first time. The main reason I wouldn't want to see Tice and Marinelli promoted is pretty simple. It has potential to hurt the team more then it could help. Tice and Marinelli are arguably the two best position coaches on this team. Why take away strenghts of the staff, put them in a position them where they will be a question mark, and replace them with inferior position coaches?

If they think he isn't qualified, I'd let him interview in a heart beat. If that he would be talented at OC, no way i'd let him interview.

He also worked with Marcus Vick in college, lol.....

http://www.vikings.com/team/coaches/kevin-...70-9a7d2bb32aad Kevin Rogers returns for his 4th season with the Vikings in 2009 and will work with a pair of seasoned signal callers in Tarvaris Jackson and Sage Rosenfels along with developing 2nd-year pro John David Booty. The 2008 Vikings had Jackson and veteran Gus Frerotte both under center as the team went 10-6 and won the NFC North- the 1st Division title for the Vikings since 2000. When Jackson took over for an injured Frerotte in the 13th game of the season at Detroit (12/7/08) he led the team on a 4th-quarter comeback win and posted wins in 2 of the final 3 wins of the regular season. In Jackson’s 1st start after an 11-game layoff when Frerotte took over the reins, he earned his 1st career NFC Offensive Player of the Week honors after a career-best 4 TD day at Arizona (12/14/08) in an upset win over the eventual NFC Champions. In the final 4 regular season games, Jackson had an 8 TD to 1 INT ratio and a passer rating of 115.4. In 2007, Rogers watched Jackson, the former 2006 2nd-round draft choice, finish the season with an 8-4 mark as a starter, including 7-3 in his final 10 starts with wins over the 2006 NFC Champion Chicago Bears (twice) as well as the Super Bowl XLII champion NY Giants and 2007 playoff-bound San Diego Chargers. Rogers prepared Jackson in 2006 as the rookie took over the starting duties for the final 2 games of the season. Jackson’s athleticism produced a 5.1 yards-per-carry average and a rushing TD along with 3 passes of 30+ yards in his 47 completions, including a 50-yarder. For Rogers, the 2009 season will mark his 35th year in the coaching profession, 28 of which have been at the collegiate level. He has coached an impressive list of players such as Donovan McNabb, Marvin Harrison and Napolean McCallum, and has been fortunate to coach alongside some of the legends of the game, sharing the sideline with the likes of Woody Hayes, Paul Pasqualoni and Frank Beamer. Before joining Minnesota, Rogers spent the 2002-05 seasons at Virginia Tech, where he guided back-to-back Hokies QBs to impressive performances. Rogers helped QB Bryan Randall etch his name throughout the school record book as he became the all-time leader in passing yards, touchdowns and total offense. Randall ended his career in 2004 with Atlantic Coast Conference Player of the Year and Offensive Player of the Year honors. In 2005, Rogers guided QB Marcus Vick in his debut as a starter on to 1st-Team All-ACC honors. Vick led the ACC in pass efficiency, while the Hokies led the conference in scoring offense at 33.8 points per game, including a league-high 51 TDs. During Rogers’ tenure, the Hokies amassed a 39-14 record, won the ACC title in 2004 and played in the 1st ACC Championship Game in 2005 after winning the ACC Coastal Division. The team also advanced to bowl games in each of his 4 seasons. Prior to his successful stint at Virginia Tech, Rogers spent the 1999-2001 seasons at Notre Dame as the offensive coordinator/QBs coach on Bob Davie’s staff. He played a part in the 2000 Irish squad that finished 9-3 and was invited to the Fiesta Bowl in the school’s debut in a Bowl Championship Series game. Rogers worked with QB Jarious Jackson in his final season and helped the senior signal-caller leave with the single-season passing yardage record in 1999 and set school marks for attempts and completions. Jackson ended his career as the 4th-ranked quarterback in school history and was selected in the 7th round of the 2000 NFL Draft, the first Irish QB drafted since Rick Mirer in 1993. Rogers’ longest tenure came with Syracuse University, where he coached from 1991-1998 and helped the Orange to a combined 68-26-1 record and 6 bowl appearances. He joined the team as quarterbacks coach on Pasqualoni’s staff, was named assistant head coach in 1995, serving as the recruiting coordinator from 1995-97 before being promoted to offensive coordinator in 1997. During Rogers’ time with Syracuse, the team tied for the 1996 Big East title and won the crown outright in 1997 and ’98, becoming the 1st team in conference history to win 3 straight championships. It was also during that time that Rogers became acquainted with Vikings’ Head Coach Brad Childress, as the Philadelphia Eagles began evaluating Rogers’ star pupil, Donovan McNabb, before the 1999 NFL Draft. McNabb excelled under Rogers’ tutelage, leaving Syracuse with the majority of the school’s passing records and earning 3 straight Big East Offensive Player of the Year awards from 1996-98 before being drafted #2 overall by the Eagles. Individually, McNabb was one of the most decorated players in team history, but other Orange players benefited from Rogers’ teaching as well. From 1992-98, Syracuse QBs were prominent in league play as McNabb was a 1st-Team All-Big East choice in each of his 4 seasons (1995-98), Kevin Mason earned 1st-Team acclaim in 1994 and Marvin Graves was a 2nd-Team choice in 1992 when he ranked 2nd in the nation in passing. Graves held the school records that McNabb would soon break as both still stand among the top QBs in school history. Rogers also helped groom future NFL stars Marvin Harrison, Qadry Ismail and Rob Konrad. Rogers’ spent 1983-90 on the staff at Navy, where he spent 7 seasons working with the offense and future NFL standout Napolean McCallum. From 1980-82, he coached RBs at his alma mater, William & Mary. Rogers got his start in coaching at Virginia Beach’s Bayside High (1974-76) before serving as a graduate assistant at Ohio State under the legendary Woody Hayes in 1977-78, where he also coached with Vikings LB coach Fred Pagac. A 1974 graduate from the College of William & Mary, where he also played LB, Rogers went on to receive his master’s degree from Ohio State in 1978. Rogers and his wife, Betty, have 3 children – Kevin, Megan and Ryan. Kevin is a former Villanova QB and works as a pro scout for the Super Bowl XLI Champion Indianapolis Colts. Ryan earned his degree from Notre Dame and is in grad school at Syracuse’s Newhouse School of Communications. Megan is a former Notre Dame soccer player and currently the Coordinator of Labor Operations at the NFL office

Wow, the Ravens QB coach... lol, is there any other spot on the bottom of the barrell that isn't being scraped?

He also said they ran the cover 2 alot when he was with the Falcons. That they were a winner the year he was there, that the Jets were winners this year, and his enthusiasm/attitude or something, i forget, helps get the players pumped and everywhere he goes they are winners.

He says he wants a chance to be the DC for the Bears. He's a free agent now that the season is over and loves the Bears and would love to come home.

I thought the Vikings were scarier with out him, in a Bears perspective. Adrian Peterson always ate the Bears alive prior to this year. Knowing Favre is there to make an untimely mistake always makes you think the Bears have a chance. I'm not saying their other options are great, bt the ball wouldn't be in their hands as much as favre.

I've been pulling for them cuz of Ryan through out the play offs and they play Bears football. 7-3 Jets at this point over Indy.