Lucky Luciano

without knowing pertinent information on the GM candidates i am seriously leaning to Khan as my top candidate. 1. he has worked with a family owned franchise. he should be able to work with the idiots in ours. 2. he has worked under and with some of the top people in management in the nfl. 3. the steelers have had a winning organization for decades. he is not working with a flash in the pan franchise who have just turned it around over the past few years. top mention also, these other franchises like the browns and such have had the #1 or top 5 pick multiple times recently. how hard is it to draft with those positions? if not our gm i would have liked to see Khan as president of football operations. he would have been a great candidate for that.

i would agree with you. removing ted is/would be a plus. but... here is the murky facts as i personally see them. the statements that teddy boy is gone from the rank of president of football operations and set out to stadium only pasture is just not true or else has been obscured by the village idiot george. the named designation may have changed but certainly not the job he performs. even in the presser george referred to consulting with ted when asked who is going to evaluate these new hires (gm or head coach) in the future. he proceeded, unless i am mistaken, to refer to himself, ted phillips and the board of directors of this franchise as making these decisions. who is on this board he mentions? surely ted phillips is and add to that family members. none of whom have even the slightest idea how to run or manage football operations. quite frankly it reminds me of when mikey m. was supposedly put out to pasture and hired as the family gardener. yet when it came time to hire/fire angelo (i believe it was him) and hire a new gm ted phillips refers to mikey (who was standing on the podium) in the press conference as making the final decisions. only the names were changed to protect the guilty. they just believe the fans and the press are as stupid as they are. if they change the ORDER in who is in charge and who makes the final decisions then there is real relevant change when in reality it's the same group of clowns that just got out of the clown car the last time there was a debacle. off this topic a little. i heard on the score that polian may have been hired mid season. if this is true why in the holy hell are we in the position now of looking for a gm? that should have been cut and dry the minute the decision was made that pace was gone. why keep pace in limbo and waste months looking for a new gm when it could have been done already and we would have hit the ground running post game 17!!

this... i have no idea of what polians creds are or whether they are current in TODAY'S evaluation market. even if they are up to date, nobody can make positive hits on every choice they may make no matter how good they are. my point about being a temp is that once the process of who he 'thinks' is the best candidate is his job is over with this franchise. that is the fault of this entire process we are again going through. if polian was hired as president of football operations i would be happy. if he were hired on any type of permanent basis for evaluation of what he has given us and advise us on the hire we make through his recommendation in the future i would be happy. but he is not. will he give us the best chance at a good gm? possibly. yet again it's the same people who are evaluating this gm talent that haven't got any clue how their underling is performing. we are asking a blind man to navigate us through a mine field.

here is the problem... polian is a temp worker that it is possible the current NFL has evolved past him other than general football knowledge. he is a viable source that a current and up to date president of football operations contacts along with OTHERS to make cognizant decisions for the future of a franchise. but... once the initial process is over he is dust on the shelf. you get no evaluation of the candidate he has chosen years down the road. is this candidate he has chosen succeeding or failing? who is going to make that determination? what about the corrsi temp worker (another supposedly football guru) who put in place what we just fired? he was knowledgeable also but who evaluated his pick over the last 7 YEARS? who advised or directed our GM one way or the other as things started to fail? how long did it take for georgie to figure out that pace was not up to the job? when he gets blasted with it in the media? that is the problem. we have nobody in place that knows enough about anything relating to football to do this job. that said, let's talk about georgie. he has been the president of this franchise for over 10 YEARS!! he himself has proclaimed his lack of knowledge in football operation and just considers himself in the status as a fan as of yesterday. are you freaking kidding me?? in TEN YEARS wouldn't you think someone as president of a billion dollar corporate franchise would EDUCATE himself on how to run this organization? apparently not or we wouldn't be using polian exclusively to do the most important job this franchise can undertake. so in TEN YEARS he has literally done nothing to understand the workings of how an nfl franchise should operate. georgie is not just dumb, he is an entitled, elite, mamma's boy fool two steps below being considered a cretin.

keep this in mind.... this stuff SHOULD have been on a big board already by a genuine president of football operations or by georgie, ted, the board or whoever these clowns are that make the decisions. they should have a board with every single person who looks like a candidate for GM, head coach, assistant coach/coordinator, or any important cog in how a football franchise works. thus using established nfl people or up an comers from the college ranks and have them rated as to capabilities and availability. they never do this. every time this franchise implodes it is like some kind of shock to them. they are like chickens with their heads cut off running in random circles. they are too stupid to make the calls themselves and then have to find someone out there not even related to this franchise and how it works to make the football decisions that are critical moving forward. just one detriment to this way of running your franchise is by the time you decide to even hire an outside consultant or board of consultants (this happened too) you have lost time. critical time needed to contact the correct people to fill the vacancies. it also has limitations. if the person who they hire fails, he has no accountability for this failure. it's just... uhhhh well, we'll look for someone else next time. it's ultimate ignorance of the processes that are needed to make you successful and they don't even seem to realize it.

agree. the key is a president of football operations who even has an idea if the gm is doing a good job.

i have to respectfully disagree. i do NOT applaud the moves that were made. 1. did he fire nagy and pace? yes. that was the absolute minimum and obvious move to make. from that point on everything went south. the point of all of this is a change that moves this franchise forward. we did not see that at all. it's the same philosophy, the same way of running this franchise that has gone on since jim finks left the building and mike mccaskey became the football guru. it has failed for over 40 YEARS! 2. ted phillips moving out of football decisions: again this is not the case. it was just sleight of hand with smoke and mirrors included. ted phillips is not out of football operations. georgie affirmed that at the presser. he stated when asked who was going to govern and oversee the gm and who is hired and the answer is himself (a self proclaimed fan rather than football minded force) along with the board (family members? mother? who exactly?) and ted phillips. please tell me what is different that what we have lived through for 4 decades. 3. bill polian: again this is sleight of hand. polian is what? 79 years old? has this franchise hired him full time and a manager or at the very least even a full time consultant? the answer to that is NO. this is a guy who has been out of the NFL loop for over 10 years. a guy who is selling a book and needs the promotion. a guy who has absolutely no responsibility to this franchise once a gm or coach has been chosen. a guy whose thoughts and ideas are way behind the the times on how the nfl is even run. let's be frank. if you are the top executive in charge of running football operations for this franchise and you have to hire an outside consultant not once but TWICE to choose who is going to make all the critical football decisions, you are in deep water with someone standing on your shoulders. it's stupid and it's the same stupid that has made this franchise what it is today. the smart move would have been to hire a president of football operations to make the decisions that georgie is incapable of making. otherwise in another 5-7 years we will be doing this all over again. we have gained NOTHING. 4. AGAIN, we have non football people (unless the ancient polian is involved) in searching for a head coach and gm. excuse me.... who in their right mind is going to want to become the GM of this lame ass franchise and be stuck with a coach and football personnel they didn't even hire? it's the same stupid backward idiocy that has been perpetrated by upper management forever. hire a coach then force the new gm to work with him. this is just de'ja vu all over again.

i don't think i have heard anything like this in the world of sports. the stupidity and ineptness of the people running this clown car called the chicago bears has to go down in corporate history as what you never want to do if your goal is to succeed. top that off... georgie basically called olen krutz a liar and insignificant "you can take what olen says with a grain of salt". that he was offered $15 an hour to work for the organization. well that surely will buy good will from ANY former chicago bear player now or in the future.

This franchise is unbelievable. George is a complete imbecile that couldn't run a fast food chain. They could have just run a replay of the 2015 presser. Even that was less stupid than what I heard today. Every bit of goodwill and hope is just pie in the sky. This franchise will NEVER amount to anything as long as this family owns them.

per adam schefter

i haven't watched him extensively but have seen him on enough plays dancing at the LOS with offensive linemen to say he is easily replaceable. he rarely gets any push into the pocket and i have seen him many times getting blocked 3-5 yards back by the center or guards. this is NOT what you want to see from a nose tackle that is not drawing at least double teams. add that to how many games he misses and the size of his contract. this says to me... dump him. ANY savings is worth it to get rid of this guy and put someone in who really wants to play in the NFL.

in answer to that.... YES. at $5 mil a year that is clearly a fair price for the 2nd or 3rd best defensive player on your entire roster and a key player at his position in the entire NFL. but let's look at his injury history first since he has been in chicago: 2016 - started entire season - 16 games 2017 -- started entire season - 16 games 2018 - started entire season - 16 games 2019 - started 5 games - 5 games - out with dislocated elbow 2020 - started 15 - 15 games 2021 - so far he has started 8 games with 3 remaining. was out with ankle injury earlier in season and is now on covid list NOT injury list. so where are you getting this 6 games a year? with his record he is not injury prone. the injuries he has sustained are not critical injuries to his career. it is true he is 32 years old but in my opinion he surely has at least 2 years left in his career. even with diminishing returns it is well worth it paying a 3/4 DE that can probably play tackle in a 4/3 scheme that kind of money. he also can possibly play nose tackle in a 3/4. the saints had him scheduled to play nose tackle in 2013 prior to drafting jenkins in the third round for that position. let's look at his stats in chicago: solo tackles - 161 sacks - 31 (3.5 sacks this shortened season for him) what player off the wire for cheaper than 5 mil are you going to find out there? and draft? yes we should draft a DT or 3/4 DE. but to expect that someone to come in and be anywhere close to this quality out of the gate that we draft 2nd round or below is ludicrous. all this does is create yet ANOTHER major hole in our defense.

$5mil a year for a stud D lineman is cheap, cheap, cheap even if he plays limited snaps. this is also worth considering... if we get rid of nagy, the next coach may want to revert the defense to a standard 4/3 depending upon what DC he chooses. if that happened there is no way hicks is not super valuable as a DT in that scheme.

although hicks is on the downside of his career and missing some games i would NOT let him walk. you can see the difference when he plays as opposed to being out. it's like the old dan hampton syndrome. when hampton played the entire defense was light years better, even as his career was winding down. same goes with hicks. if you let him go it's another spot empty to TRY and fill with an even average player let alone a stud. i would let goldman go in a heartbeat and figure a way to keep hicks on the field. he certainly has been on the active roster more than that drone goldman has been. can hicks play tackle? if he was willing have HIM replace goldman.

count me in your corner Pixote. in agreement 100%

the crucial factor in bad, missed or no calls, is the timing. it's not the amount of penalties a team has as a whole, it is a case of WHEN the refs decide to penalize a team in the game that factors in the win/loss factor. i have seen this numerous times through the decades of watching pro football - a team gets a critical call on a offense or on defense that is beyond the pale. later in the game the so called 'make up calls' usually happens when the game is getting to the point of certainty of who will win or lose. if not that then limiting the scoring (shaving points) to hold a final score within certain gambling parameters. in example, a holding call... on offense the same call could have been called nearly ever single play but a ref decides at this critical juncture in the game to drop a flag? secondary defense... same goes for pass interference or holding. both teams do the same type of foul at numerous times throughout the game yet one is called at a critical time for no apparent reason. this sets the tone for the entire game when points are shaved from the board due to referee interference. let's face it, the NFL purposely has left the rules vague over the last several decades at least. how else could this be justified in a multi billion dollar corporation? the NFL doesn't make enough money to be able to hire full time referee's and hold them accountable to their job performance? it's ludicrous. the league has no desire to see games regulated in a fair manner probably due to market share and the dollar and cents bottom line for the owners. the way it's set up the rules/penalties are determined by an individual referee at his own discretion (or the gambling syndicates) and NOT by the rule book. at any given time a referee can drop a flag and be correct OR not drop a flag and be correct at the same time. factor in not only the market share/profits but the gambling factions. this is big, big money. who would have thought 30 years ago that the nfl would actually condone a team moving to the gambling capital of the united states?

what a game. seems like deja'vu all over again. here is my take on the game although after the first quarter i was reading a book and occasionally watching the action... OFFENSE: although not stellar the offense was fair to middlin. in my opinion dalton did a good job with what he had to work with. all this hate on him is unjustified. just so we can watch fields play is no reason for the heat he is getting. the offensive line is spotty. sometimes good protection sometimes horrible. the run blocking was average to good and monty made it look a lot better than it was with some superior running.and our other back looked good also. the receiving corp was also spotty. i did not watch this game close but the WR's didn't seem to be getting much separation. any complaints on dalton not throwing long has to do with the play calling and execution of our pass protection. the tight ends seem to also have done a fair to good job blocking and receiving. DEFENSE: what defense? this was a dismal unit from the get-go. only hicks and smith look like they are earning their pay. the db's look atrocious. they couldn't seem to even figure out who was covering who or if anyone at all. the defensive line was not putting pressure on the qb with ANY regularity. quinn is the invisible man. mack is not much better. these two are taking up a serious amount of cap space that any ham and egger could nearly do as well. goldman? cut him. he is not reliable and another waste of cap space. if this continues what we are getting from our defense, this season is over before it starts. COACHING: grade F. naggy going for it on 4th down on the 41 yd line at THAT point in the game is beyond stupid. to do it twice is inexcusable. also not going for a field goal at that point and going for a 4th and 15 is mind boggling. also why put fields in at all? all this does is disrupt the rhythm for dalton. it's stupid. if this is be best our defensive coordinator can come up with (unless the quality of the players is so bad it's uncoachable) then he certainly is not the answer. with the way this defense plays there is not any team in the nfl that can't score enough to beat us.

wow, what an ugly game even for preseason. first: wilkinson at left tackle was absolutely horrendous. last week he looked to be competent. this week he was getting blown up play after play. missing your assignment or laying on your back is not the best technique to protect your quarterback from a pass rush. no qb can call/sustain a game with that lack of protection. the rest of the line took turns allowing pressure or sacks. if peters is not ready to play starting day or is the clone or orlando pace we are in for a long, long season. dalton looked average at best but with that protection it's not surprising. fields is going to need time to get into a groove. if he starts opening day in my opinion it's a mistake. second: defense... what defense? if our defense looks ANYTHING like it did against the bills we will be fighting it out for the bottom of the nfl in january. no pressure on their qb, can't stop the run, can't tackle, can't cover receivers even with a qb who you KNOW can't throw deep and proved it again. third: special teams: not very good. it's preseason and you want to try stuff and see who can or can't play or even make the roster. but... their is some real cause for concern come opening day if this unit doesn't get better. fourth: again we were out-coached and outplayed. this team has to come a long way to even become average and if this staff can't see that and adjust on game day it's just another voided year of football. hopefully this team can get their $h!t together before the season starts but i'm not betting on it.

absolutely agree. we can NOT keep trading away draft picks. i have always said and believe the qb is the most important player on the field but at some point you have to start drafting tackles to protect ANY qb. build the offensive line first then you can go after that high ranked qb. otherwise it's just the same ole same ole nonsense we have been doing since 1984. that way if you don't get a HOF qb as your first round pick and end up with just a good or better qb he can still win superbowls with a very good offensive line in front of him. in 36 years we have drafted only 5 offensive tackles in the first round (four if you consider long as a guard)!! we have drafted ONE offensive tackle since jim covert higher than #20. those are ridiculous statistics and bear witness on how to fail as a franchise if you really work at it. hire some evaluators and scouts whose only job is to find offensive linemen and put them to work. forget going for the BPA and start drafting tackles. we already know drafting the BPA doesn't work with this franchise which means continuously going after position players or defense. even if we pick tackles who are not rated as high as our pick (within 5 or 6 slots difference) do it anyway. even if we just end up with GOOD + tackles it will be worth it. pick OT's with our first two picks. it should take a couple of years to see if they will produce like we want them to. in the meantime draft project tackles the next two years in the 5th round on down to groom into starters or utility backups. if our first round picks don't pan out and any lower round tackles can't replace them because of quality then draft more in the top 3 rounds again until that position if solid. THEN go all in on a QB in the draft.

i don't agree with this anymore. that may work if you have a well rounded team and are trying to improve existing positions that at least play at an nfl level of competence. when was the last time the bears drafted an offensive tackle that was all-pro or gone to multiple pro-bowls? the 80's? that is nearly 40 years ago! the skill players (or best available player on the board) are only as good as your line allows them to be. simple as that. yet year after year after year we draft the SAME position players over and over again like wr, te, rb and even quarterback occasionally (when we don't focus on the defensive side of the ball in these rounds) and expect them to live up to their skill set and hype. all the while, what moves the football, what allows these skill players to thrive in the job they were drafted to do? it is the offensive line. yet they are an afterthought to this franchise and have been for decades. do the research and if your scouts are not up to the task to find the best nfl tackles on the board then hire more scouts or someone else to do it. if that prospect doesn't rate that high in the draft order trade down or draft him anyway until you find the players who CAN play at a high level in the nfl. once drafted he will need a minimum of two years to evaluate his skill set. during those two years draft MORE tackles in the lower rounds to groom either as replacements (a gem in the rough) or good utility backups. if after the evaluation of your higher round picks determines the player will never be a top starter in the nfl, draft another one in the first three rounds again until that player is on your roster.

i would use the first and second round picks on offensive tackles. forget moving up or drafting a qb this year that high. we CAN'T keep drafting the same position players year after year and ignore the offensive line. pick up a skill position player or defensive lineman in the third if they need to or go free agent in this regard. but do NOT neglect the offensive tackles this year. next year you can go for the qb you need but at least give him a line to protect him when he gets here.

i agree with you totally. once mike mccaskey, the self proclaimed genius, took over the helm it was way worse. that said, george halas was no genius either in the latter part of his life. his concerns were motivated by profit first. certainly from the 1960's forward. muggs halas was the shining light future of the franchise. unfortunately he died young and we ended up with what we have.

actually your dates are a bit out of sinc. jim finks was instrumental in putting the team together that won the SB (not to mention our first playoff spot since the superbowl era in the 70's with pardee). in 1974 finks signed with chicago after putting together some pretty good talent as GM in minnesota. he worked as GM in chicago until he left after 1983 after halas forced ditka as head coach on him. as it turns out finks was right. ditka was a STUPID choice as head coach and in my opinion cost us at LEAST 2 more superbowl wins and wasted some of the best talent in the NFL. jerry vainisi took over as GM in 84. he also was a pretty good evaluator of talent until lil mikey decided his genius should easily bring our franchise to greatness (money greatness for the mccaskey family was more like it). vainisi left in 87 and our suckiness is history.

is this for real? these designs are pure garbage. do we really want to look the the denver bronco's? i guess when you suck this long it's a meager bone to throw at the fans. plus it will get the fans to throw more money their way in hats, t-shirts and jerseys. if they want a change, go back to the white C on the helmets.

Joe Lintzenich was joe bucks grandfather and namesake. he was a HB for the 1930-31 chicago bears.