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as you posted after this one, it's his son. sounds like a very good hire especially considering his work with young TE's for the giants. i think this will be a great hire for the bears. i am really stoked so far about how our coaching staff is coming together. all the new hires, including nagy, are people who are young and talented and can teach/coach players to be better including rookies and veteran players. this may be one of the best coaching staffs with potential (on paper at least) i have witnessed in over 50 years of watching bears football. the diversity of these people hired is phenomenal. we will be really good in 2 years once everyone meshes together to form a cohesive coaching unit or we will crash and burn. my money is on the upside potential. for the first time since jim finks and venissi (sp) were in chicago, i think we have FINALLY done this right .

this says volumes about andy reid as a 'coach' and a human being with integrity and ethics in his profession. compare that to belly and the pats and their win-at-all-costs even if you have to lie, cheat and steal to do it. whether nagy turns out or not at least we don't have that stigma nailed to the front door of our franchise like mcdaniels would have brought with him.

in all seriousness... NEVER sit at a high stakes poker game in some back room. it could be hazardous to your health.

cheeeezus h. keeerist is pompei mcdaniels novelist/autobiographer? i've never seen an article written that long about ANYONE as a coaching candidate. is he related to mcdaniels or his agent? is he being PAID by kraft? what a load of touchy feely BS. here are the qualifications never touched on by pompei.... 1. involved in CHEATING the rams out of a win in superbowl 36 due to illegally filming rams practices. 2. was he involved in CHEATING in superbowl 38, 39, 41,45, along with belly and the pats? more than these? how much filming/cheating just to get to the superbowl OR win their division were they involved with? 3. 2010 as head coach of the broncos does the SAME thing with the SAME guy as the pats got charged with in 2007. is he completely STUPID or just a pathological CHEATER? 4. 2013 pats illegal use of IR designation for players? "Two former Patriots say the team put false information about them on official injury reports." he wouldn't know a thing about that being the offensive coordinator? 5. 2015 deflate-a-gate. again the pats were caught cheating. does ANYONE believe a ball boy whom they blamed for this took it upon himself to do this??? how could mcdaniels NOT know what was happening in their own locker room with his starting qb? but other than those MINOR items he would be a great candidate. a pathelogical liar, learned how to CHEAT from the best and is a THIEF. yea, i'm sure in his corner. the bears need more people in charge who have no moral or ethical standards.

this could be a real problem if we decide to go with a defensive minded head coach... if we find a real good OC that brings our qb and offense into the spotlight, he won't be around long in the NFL's coaching merry-go-round before he is gone. the only way one stays is if age is a factor or he doesn't want a/another HC job.

i hope this franchise does NOT go with a cheating thief in mcdaniel's. i don't care how good or bad he is it would be hard to get behind someone who has no scruples and is STUPID to lead this franchise.

agreed. i have been saying this for years.

i'm not in the 'fire fox' corner this season unless someone REALLY good shows up. OC? maybe so. it's just so hard to judge the coaching talent with the adversity we have gone through since he showed up. quite frankly when fox & co. showed up, our roster was filled out with semi-pro talent. maybe one of if not THE worst i have ever witnessed in the nfl. all of that takes time to turn around. it was not and still isn't a quick fix. plus our previous coaching staff was semi-pro to go along with the talent on the team. tucker was an insane hire and it took us time to recover from that mess. add to all of this the injuries we have suffered are above and beyond the norm. there is no way to realistically finalize a coaching staff judgement with those restrictions when you are starting 3rd and beyond depth chart players in key positions. so as of now, i am going to rely on pace to make the hard choices (at least for a bit more time). again, just to reiterate, i am not a jeff fisher hater. i would be comfortable with him as our HC if pace believes he can get the job done.

i don't know who out there that is AVAILABLE is better or not IF we decide to can our current staff. i can say this... i have no major problem with fisher. he brings a defense to play wherever he has been. he was tutored under buddy ryan and it shows. in the past with good personnel he brought the titans to nearly winning a superbowl which is far closer than we have been since '85. he also seems to find good coordinators to work with. most of his tenure was in houston/tennessee and included an idiot for an owner that stunted the teams growth in tenn. so that is a consideration on where that team fared in the overall. he put together the solid foundation for the rams which dumped him when they moved to LA. so for me, i am on the fence with fisher. i wouldn't hate it if he eventually replaced fox if that is where pace wants to go. i also wouldn't mind a better coach if one is out there but put me down emphatically.... i do NOT want another project young and upcoming let's give him a try first time in the NFL head coach yet again. i'm sick of that crap.

i guess i don't really know what they offered the bears to move up. anybody on here know? the way i would look at it if i were the browns... they get the best player in the draft at #1 who is an immediate impact player. if they move up to the #2 slot they get the qb that they coveted all along. this gives them a franchise pass rusher and a future franchise qb who needs time to work his way into the nfl. that is hard to beat no matter what you give up. they didn't appear to have any real hard interest in any other qb besides trubisky. the niners didn't appear interested in a qb so the trade to that slot is doable. the bears just signed a big contract free agent and was not looking like pace was going to pull the trigger on trubisky even if he fell. a great smoke screen and draft strategy by our franchise. if the browns gave up a top 15 pick this year and their first round pick next year it certainly was going to be a high top 5 pick. that's a lot of bait to throw at the 9ers not to mention if they had to give up a 2nd this year and a 3rd next year (i have no idea of the value chart of what picks are worth) but if i were the niners that would be a reallly interesting offer. the browns would come out of it in really good shape. they have picked high the past number of years and this would give them the key positions to make great strides in the next 2-3 years. they need quality players, not more draft picks.

i really don't see it as being that far out of the realm of possibility that cleveland would move up and pick a considered franchise qb along with the touted best player in the draft (a defensive pass rusher). why wouldn't they? there are so many configurations for them to move up and make that trade. if you get a franchise defensive player AND a franchise QB in one draft how is that a bad thing? they had plenty of ammo to make drastic trades up without doing a ditka. no one would predict cleveland was going to turn it around in one year so their trade bait was high picks from the 2018 draft also. i would do it.

i agree. sims is their blocking TE. a big body on the end and a good plus blocker downfield. that is why he was brought here, not as a high reception/yardage TE. once our offense comes together he would be a good target in the red zone or a lead blocker for running plays around the edge.

first of all fox isn't a lame duck coach yet. if he turns it around he stays no question. if an OC has aspirations for a HC job he has an ear for that position IF chicago dumps fox. IF an OC comes in and turns this offense around he looks like a genius and can call his own shots anywhere.

i say we stay with what we have for another year. have pace and fox think about an OC upgrade in the offseason.

THAT mcdaniels from the pats?? it didn't register at the time. here is my HELL NO vote!! this guy is arrogant, a freaking liar and to top it all off.... a cheating THIEF!! why in the hell would we want him? he should have been banned from the NFL just for being criminally stupid.

1. gruden: HIGHLY doubtful he would come to chicago even if he comes out at all and he is happy announcing. plus his overall coaching skills (i will concede 'probably' good with a qb and offense) are over rated in my opinion. would want near complete control and cause problems for our GM. i'm not sure what his locker room contribution would be either. i think IF he coaches again it will be on one of the coasts. that said, who does he bring into chicago as coaching staff? we in all probability lose fangio on defense. that limits us to finding a coach who will work in the type of scheme we have drafted for over the last 3 years. offensive coach? 2. hardhead: this guy i do NOT want in chicago. he is certifiably nuts. we don't need the drama of this guy with a young up and coming team. who would HE bring to chicago as a coaching staff? who would put up with him? how would a sane GM work with this guy? 3. mcdaniels: i guess i don't know anything about him. all need to remember this, if we change horses in mid stream we are basically starting over again. so add another 3 years minimum to our rebuild.

with everyone talking about dumping the coaching staff, who are you replacing them with?

what a joke. every aspect of the chicago bears is garbage. it's a waste of time watching this team underperform week after week, year after year.

i gotta say i'm in fox's corner at this time. he has everyone playing hard and the locker room to my knowledge has been solid. right now we are a project in the making. i don't see a complete overhaul in our coaching system as a good thing at this time. our defense is starting to shine so if fox goes so probably does fangio. this throws our offense into another tailspin as seen with cutler for his tenure in chicago and our defense is again in limbo if a new coach wants to NOT be handcuffed to a previous regime, like we have STUPIDLY done in the past, even IF fangio wants to stay. i gotta believe fox and co. get more time to turn this around. the only exception >>might

here is the problem... i THINK whitehair is the better blocker (can someone verify this who has access to game film rewinds?). although with that said he has also come up with some critical holding calls to go with the bad snaps. whatever the case these bad snaps HAVE to stop. whether benching him for a while or spend the entire practices having him long snap, someone needs to do something about this. the qb needs to have the confidence in his center to get the ball cleanly to him. maybe have our special teams long snapper work with him on this problem may offer some help.

i have to step in on this... although i missed the last half of the 4th quarter, sims in my opinion is not a worthless blocker. the two plays i took notice of his failure to contain he was lining up on the left side next to leno and trying to block a premier DE in suggs one on one. THAT is a complete mismatch. there is no way a normal TE can be expected to do this on his own. our OC should have known that and if trub had more experience he probably could have compensated on how to react to this mismatch with either an audible or rolling out to his right. i also saw some nice blocking from sims in our running attack to seal off lanes for our rb to hit. one problem is with so many bodies on defense in the box they can mix up stunts and any blitz packages they may choose to run also. this was a decent defensive game plan on the ravens part capitalizing on our limited play calling and a rookie at the helm. on your next point i completely agree. EDIT: on whitehair... i have no clue what is going on with his snaps. he has become a serious liability with these miscues. the one cost us yardage and a down in our own red zone. the one that was snapped on the ground and rolling into the endzone could have cost us a TD or safety if we had not called a time out. something has to be done about this problem.

i have to agree on this. i am not sure what the problem is with whitehair. second year players seem to run into a slump and possibly this is the case. whatever it is he has played poorly at center this season and either has to improve or be replaced. just too many bad snaps and penalties.

1. what do you mean by unprepared? the game plan on offense was lacking. some of this is probably on loggains but my guess this also was a simplified basic game plan to give the rookie qb in his first start something to work into the starting position. it also has to do with the quality of our wide receivers and the injuries we have at that position. they wanted to incorporate a more solid running game to take off the pressure on trub. this didn't seem to work as expected. that said, loggains at this point is a serious question mark for next season as our OC. i think he is a good plus QB coach though alll in all. the timeouts are an unknown without confirmation from the coaching staff. it could have been a poor coaching hitch or it could have been the rookie QB having problems with the call or the defensive adjustments. 2. a bit early but i agree. he looks like he could turn into a quality qb. 3. sims: a large TE that in my opinion was brought in for blocking purposes and mismatches in receiving in the red zone. we were/are iffy on our tackle position which has in the past been a problem protecting our qb. this option i believe was enforced to create another good blocker in pass protection who could move to either side of the line to help out our tackles. another benefit for sims is his blocking abilities in a run game which seems this team was/is still trying to make a dominant force. whether this has been implemented correctly or not i can't say but in my opinion it was a good pickup. wheaton: i can't say one way or the other. leno: i know everyone wants to make him a scapegoat. in my opinion he is average playing LT. it could be a whole lot worse (anyone remember the logs we have had at that position in the past like pace, omiyale uhh, and the unforgettable web?) in free agency you don't find high quality LT's unless their career is nearly over. this signing gives us a window to draft one and for the most part not kill our qb waiting for one. 4. we drafted shaheen because miller is old and a tower of glass. sims was brought in for his blocking. brown is average. shaheen brings speed and size to the table. this is the move for the future. whether he pans out is another question. he being a rookie and from a smaller school is going to take time. i have no problem with us drafting him. 5. the injuries are a problem. i don't know how this compares to the rest of the nfl but throughout the league there are a lot of them. the vikings themselves have serious injury problems. packers also. a 'possible' way to compare would be analyze the type of injuries and where they occur. at home or away? also how many injuries to other team players playing in chicago. how many injuries are soft tissue, how many are joint injuries, how many are broken bones (these can't be judged as preventable in my opinion). similar to the philly problems they had in the past that caused numerous injuries due to the crap field.

pre draft i was all in on watson and was a bit disappointed when they moved up and picked trubisky. after reading about trub and watching some of the highlights i was sold on him as a top quality pick. however it turns out i think trubisky was the pick and am glad we chose him. i agree with you he has the most upside of any qb in this draft. speaking of urlacher... wasn't it you who sang the praises of him before the draft? it was you or someone else i don't remember now. whoever it was sold me big time on urlacher. at the time i projected him as a safety who i think he could have excelled at also.

i don't know how much more 'linear' your point of view as stated can get. A to B to C = final result. A: you draft a player in a position of need who starts immediately or... B: if that player isn't ready to start day one you pass on that player to draft another player who is touted as ready to start no matter what position he plays even if that players long term analysis says he may be an inferior player over the span of his career. C: you then wait for the next draft, the next draft or the next draft to find that player in the position you covet who HAS to start on day one. FINAL RESULTS: you could wait an entire decade for a player of that quality and when he shows up on the draft board unless you are picking #1 every single year you won't even get a sniff of him. welcome to the real world. next: of course every player drafted will hopefully help your franchise for the next 5-10 years. i stated it. although of note, there is a huge difference between "help" and play at the highest talent level. if that long term highest quality player starts day 1 or not should be of no consequence in determinng if he should be drafted in that slot or not. you are grasping at 'straws' (not strawmen). did i ever state that you did say they were right most of the time? no. but the mcnown example is a perfect analysis of your trubisky consensus "he should not have been the #2 overall. Period." because he wasn't ready at this point in time and didn't start game 1 of the regular season. by your own words and intent you would have drafted mcnown over trubisky because he was most ready to start game 1 according to the talking heads. add all of this to the fact that the team hired an unknown qb who they thought could give them a quality performance and could be a valuable asset in the future while we groomed our first round pick (or not our first round pick). you never would have even given him a single start to confirm or deny his capabilities. sighhh.... now you can forecast the events and results in an alternate universe or dimension? again, according to you, you would NEVER have drafted them in the first place. and IF you did for some unknown reason you would proclaim yourself to be smarter than at least 11 head coaches and their offensive coaching staffs and start them every game no matter what? am i getting that right? the key words in this sentence are "as early as possible". that does not make 'MUST be ready to start game 1' a hard rule of do or die. nothing is a substitute for real game experience? does that mean practice, studying game film or watching how the game develops on the sidelines has no intrinsic value? why even have the players go to camp or practice. just throw them into a game. eventually they will learn the correct way to do things in professional sports right? bumps and bruises? you mean like david carr? or our very own jay cutler (i realize he was not a rookie so don't bother) who was beaten to a bloody pulp? those kind of bumps and bruises will help him learn "lessons" and gain great experience in the nfl? it's a tough enough jump into the nfl so why not give your players every advantage you can to enhance and prolong their careers?