Lucky Luciano

OK, my evaluation of this guy... if he were from a large college program and drafted in the top 5 everyone, media and fans, would be gushing/touting how good he is and how good his progress is going. three games he has played in the regular season and to me it is astounding as to how poised, accurate and smart of a player this kid is. he is looking at the field as a seasoned qb would. he is processing information in an astounding rate for a rookie. the int's? of course they are going to happen. what would matter to me is with a season of starts how he improves at reading the defense at a pro level. i think he could do it. i really don't see the criticism on how weak an arm he has. the ball gets there in a hurry. he is hitting receivers in stride. his long balls are a matter of timing but they are certainly accurate. can he kneel on the 50 yd line and throw a ball through the goal posts? no. but with experience he can hit the receivers 20-30+ yds downfield. that is enough for me. how many qb's have we seen with these super arms fail because of the mental processing at an nfl level? i am seeing a kid who is not just a good backup but a GOOD+ to VERY GOOD+ starting qb in the nfl within the next 5 years. whether he pans out or not i think the potential of this kid is the moon.

in professional and in collegiate sports it is stealing. PROFESSIONAL: like belly he cheated with the pats. he STOLE money right out of other players, coaches and franchise owners pockets. he replaced deserving teams a possible playoff birth including a superbowl. these are extra game paydays for each player and coach (possible bonus money). it also robs them of commercial endorsements which could be worth millions. so HIM and the entire organization profited by cheating. you can add to that the money lost by the effected franchise's home town during these playoff games and or superbowl appearance. it also would reach into the millions for lost revenue. that is stealing in anybodies book. COLLEGIATE: by whatever method he used to cheat and defraud college football he cost the school's he played against cash money through bowl game money and player acquisitions in the future. by winning games and bowls he enhanced the recruiting of future players to come to his school. the spotlight and recognition of other teams players in regards to possible draft status could have cost the players millions upon reaching the nfl draft. that is stealing from your peers.

i am with you on that. i don't think he has all of his kinnicks. add to that he is a cheater which relates to me as a thief. he has stolen from his peers.

any coach can look excellent if you have a HOF qb in brady for nearly 20 years and a HOF candidate in bledsoe for 2 before that (even that idiot mike mccarthy from the packers). add to that if you cheat and get away with it for nearly that entire time line in new england to win divisions and SB's it gives you the 'apparent' look of success that you don't deserve. look at his resume before new england. that is the proof in the pudding.

The man did a lot in his life to even get to the point of being considered for a head coaching position in the NFL. what he accomplished as a player is totally deserved. he was a great player. as a coach? not so much. Again, the list of people who have been considered for head coaching positions is much shorter than the list of people who have opinions about football and coaches. there are dozens + of coaches considered for HC jobs that are terrible head coaches. just in recent memory coaches related to chicago... abe giibron, mike ditka, buddy ryan, dave wanstedt, dick jauron, marc tressman, matt nagy, rod marinelli. if not for begging halas for a job would he have ever even been considered as a HC after 9 years in dallas? i doubt it. if you want to judge a career you have to consider all the facts. what did he do in chicago once ryan left and the finks talent got older? what coaching talent did he bring in or recommend to management? what did he do with the new player talent that came into chicago once mcmahon and walter were gone? other than brow beat his players AND the coaches on the sidelines and in the media it was very little. then consider his career in new orleans as HC/GM. what a complete disaster that showed how really flawed this guy was as a HC and a GM. so no, i don't think he was even a good HC let alone a great one. It is easy to have an opinion, the old saying that everyone has one springs to mind. Criticising accomplished people and dismissing them entirely is not a reflection of reality. it IS a reflection on reality to make real judgements on what you actually see and hear in REAL time in real life with real people and not media hype BS or some SNL skit.

if you don't even read it closely why waste my time and the rest of the people viewing this? what results are refutable? he was a HC that got one superbowl ring? real facts? of course i don't have real facts. riddle me this... how is that even possible to have facts in this discussion? it's MY opinion like it or not.

if we had hired ryan as HC it would have ended in failure like his other gigs IMO. some guys just don't cut it as HC's but make stellar co-ordinators. i look at 85 as us winning a SB in spite of ditka. i didn't know it at the time but watching him fail for 5 straight years was enough to show me he was so over rated as a coach it wasn't funny. the crazy antics he pulled on the team post 85 was ridiculous. he was in it for the money and ego for sure in those years.

i agree with almost all you said. the mccaskey's have been a detriment since muggs halas died and isn't much, if any, better now. we put up with mikey for over 20 years of abject failure that dragged this team into the garbage. i don't like harbaugh much. i think he is about half baked but if they brought him in and he wins i would support that. imo i really think he's nuts. sanders? i don't know. not enough experience as a coach yet? whatever kind of coach we get HAS to hold the players and assistants accountable. that i do agree on. i have been touting an offensive HC for a long, long time. then trestman comes in and nagy. yikes, i don't know what to think anymore. seems like other teams get the gold and we get the shaft. ownership has really helped that case along. by the way, nearing 60 years as a fan. butkus brought me into the nfl fold.

uhhh... didn't you read my previous post? you can say ANYTHING you want about ryan being a HC. he was terrible. but nobody can take away his DC ability as a freaking genius. credit for what? pounding square pegs into round holes with a sledge hammer and 'being tough'?? so what if he was a disciplinarian. ANY mediocre coach could have surpassed his accomplishments with the talent on that team. his ranting on young players on the sidelines AND in the media is no help developing players at all. his my way or the highway? it's laughable. he might have gotten away with it with some of the strong personality vets because they knew enough just to ignore him. but young developing players? not so much. everyone knew his main objective was the almighty dollar. how do you think that played out to a team like that? do you think some of them figured if he's doing it i might as well too? that's losing focus on what you are there for. quite frankly he was an idiot that had no real qualifications to be an OC let alone a HC to anyone besides GSH who probably hired him because that's ALL he ever hired as coaches was former bear players or former bear coaches. plus dika probably was hire for pennies on the dollar by halas.

i have to respectfully disagree. he doesn't deserve credit, he just got it from the media for that ONE superbowl. if it was a fair evaluation he squandered the talent on that team with his stubborn nonsense (just ONE example... can you say flutie?). on the defensive side the players paid absolutely no attention to ditka. it was ryans show completely. that is why they put him on their shoulders after superbowl XX. there were two head coaches there until ryan left (ryan actually hated ditka and it showed). even jim mcmahon thought ditka was an idiot. he just had the balls to tell ditka to stuff it and do it his way. speaking of mcmahon, his attitude brought the whole team up and got them fired up more than ditka ever did (maybe a hampton exception LOL). after XX ditka was more interested in making a dollar and making the talk shows than winning another one. he gets no credit from me.

ditka was a terrible coach. he was a DETRIMENT rather than an asset. without buddy ryans defensive genius he would have gone nowhere even with all the HOF/pro-bowl talent jim finks drafted. jim finks left because GSH (decades past any modern NFL competence), forced ditka as the head coach on finks. with all the talent ditka had, he let his ego, bluster and all-me attitude run this team into the ground. one superbowl with the quality talent he had to work with was criminal. throw in a complete imbecile in mike mccasky trying to play genius GM, they screwed us out of at LEAST 1-3 more superbowl rings. jim finks and venessi sp? along with buddy ryan (a defensive genius and HORRIBLE head coach) are the reason we even won ONE superbowl. ditka was just a distraction. if mugs halas hadn't died we never would have seen ditka in chicago.

i usually don't either but this guy is a waste of oxygen as a human being. whatever bad karma he gets he deserves.

couldn't happen to a better player and a better franchise. too bad - LOL also i believe it stops the packers from the jets first round pick which rogers had to start so many games. another LOL

this bothered me also. we should have been in a hurry-up offense nearly the entire 2nd half. the huddle up and meander to the LOS in the position they were in was ludicrous. where was our elite WR? this guy is a player yet all we do is throw these dink and dunk passes that do nothing to put us back into the game.... uhhh, what a hot mess

the next four games will decide where we go from here. this is sad if it doesn't work out because i like fields. he's a nice kid and he works as hard as any player i have seen to become better. i just don't think it is going to happen anymore. he has all the tools except one, the ability to process information in 3D quickly enough. i really hope i am wrong about this.

this is as bad as any game last season. i don't know if getsy is calling the garbage we saw or if it's a check down from fields. whatever the case this dink and dunk crap is an absolute joke. when you are down like they were and you can't even open up the field with some downfield passes speaks volumes. fields will get about 4 more games to turn this around. personally i don't think he can. i don't think he is processing information fast enough to even be an above average qb let alone a franchise qb. i don't know about his accuracy because we never throw it further than 5 yds. by week 10 we will see bagette so we know where we are drafting a qb next season.

is ANY unit playing professional football today? it's deja' vu all over again. maybe we can get the first AND second pick in the draft DISGUSTING

i thought the kid looked very good. i know it's preseason and all but bagent had quick reads and the ball was out like a laser. he was also very very accurate. great composure and ran the huddle well. this kid looked like a 5 year vet out their instead of a tier 2 walk on. if what i saw tonight keeps up in pre season this kid is a keeper and might be hard to keep on the practice squad before someone takes him.

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here is the deal.... we had NO offensive line. we had NO passing game that ANYONE was afraid of. monty was lining up mostly with a stacked 8+ in the box defense that KNEW all they had to do was stop the running game. i'm sorry but in my opinion he was worth WAY more than a mere $6mil to this team. now we have yet ANOTHER hole to fill and will either have to pay more than monty got or hope a draft pick can do half the stuff he did.

i think this was a mistake. we had a tough rb who could drag a pile, catch very well and more important he was a good+ blocker for fields. he was familiar with the system and went cheap. this was a step back for protecting fields.

agree. it's not just the speed that makes the back. if so you never would have even heard of w. payton. it's all the things combined... balance, strength, desire to go along with the ability as a blocker and receiver.

i just don't see why we would throw any draft picks above the 6th round or pick up another highly paid FA in running backs unless monty wants the moon. the guy can block he can catch he can move the pile he knows the system is in his prime relatively a healthy player with a great work ethic appears to be a locker room asset and doesn't throw anyone under the bus. not a prima donna. with a good offensive line in front of him his yds per carry can only increase. add to that when we don't have 8 in the box because our OL can actually pass block it should increase also. he was part of one of the most productive running attacks in recent bear history. i've said this before... he is a similar RB as walter payton was. not flashy but tough as nails and gets the job done on a team that defenses EXPECT the run. what more do we want from a RB? we have the change of pace quick RB already on the roster to compliment him. we have the cap to pay him so why look for greener grass when we are standing in the meadow?

first... for me it is WAY to early to say poles is any where near a bust. this year we broke this team right down to the bare ground. it needed to be done for once in the last 40 plus years. we have struggled every year trying to plug the individual supposed blue chip player in to make us a contender. this has NOT worked and in reality unless you get really lucky it won't work for any sustained credibility. even if you let this season slide, we are NOT going to contend for a S.B. in 23. there is just to much to do with what poles has been left with. what we should expect is not a super bowl run but see the bricks laid for a solid foundational team going on from 23. that said... if the foundation starts to crumble and we can't see a light at the end of the 23 tunnel then it's time to be concerned about poles. just not yet. second... lets get back to reality on our draft picks and free agents. nearly every player drafted needs a three year window to really evaluate what his potential is going to be going forward. you should see improvements each year, that is a given. but traditionally the second year is the let down for most draft picks because more is expected from them than as rookies. that has been my observation. speaking of rookies, that these players are not performing like pro bowlers at season end is completely understandable. they are going to wear down quicker than seasoned vets. the season is considerably longer (now 17 games compared to 16) than college and the practices and conditioning is or should be more intense also. they are physically and mentally wearing down in the last quarter of an nfl season. what you should be seeing is how much potential is really there for each rookie during the next 3 years and what role he is going to play with the team if he sticks.