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Something just doesn't add up. Not to say Cutler was/is a good player but the team is suddenly looking at losing two franchise difference makers with nothing in return. Sure AJ has had his injuries and Jay can't seem to remain consistent but they are no doubt cornerstone players. If not in Chicago with another team. But to lose them both; again with no compensation doesn't make much sense. Something is going on and we're missing it. Pace isn't that naive...right?

Agreed.

But in theory, wouldn't you want to pick a higher value QB then assume the team will tank? Making it more realistic to pick at the top the following year and get the 'franchise QB'? As opposed to building up the team through defense and presuming they have a better record due to the defense being that much better? Weren't they rated somewhere in the top 10-15? With a scrub like Hoyer, Barkley or Shaw playing just good enough the team could find themselves in the middle to later part of the 1st round and out of contention for the earlier round draft spots. Besides that, holding out hope for next year has too many variables that would make me nervous.

I think everyone knows the team doesn't plan on going forward with him. Those that may have an eye on him will wait to see if any interest is garnered. Remember this isn't the first time he's been 'shopped'. A team like NE could consider it (extremely high possibility of no) if they were to lose Garrappolo (and get draft picks in exchange) then losing a sixth or seventh in a trade wouldn't feel so wasteful. You know NE does have a knack for turning turds into stars so why not Jay? Of course this is a wild hypothesis and more of just a 'for example'.

Ha ha very ? Not that anyone will believe this but I do hope he goes out somewhere in style. Perhaps he'll get signed on with a team as a backup (Tennessee?) and makes it to the Super Bowl before he hangs it up? I really didn't hate the guy, just the way he played most times. Wasn't there another thread about this somewhere? I still think the Bears are gonna end up releasing him in the end.

Saw something where this has been the case since about mid-January. If you believe earlier reports, this isn't the first time he's been on the market since Pace and Co. have been in town. Jay hasn't done much in the stat department to really help himself and now is coming off two injuries last year. The most recent being a shoulder injury with surgery(?). I won't be surprised if the Bears don't end up releasing him.

Not for nothing but according to the article below, of the current FA QBs, the Bears have two of the top three already on their roster. Not sure why signing someone like Foles would be a good move. Instead of bringing in a Foles or Garrapolo; re-sign Hoyer and Barkley to 1 year "prove it" deals then have them compete with Shaw and drafted QB. https://www.profootballfocus.com/pro-2017-f...agency-tracker/

I saw that Ryan Clady, Marshall Newhouse and Mike Remmers could also all be available. Of those three Newhouse might be the best value.

One thing to consider is that neither Wentz or Prescott were rated very high going this late into the offseason last year. Yet Prescott proved he was probably rated higher than the 4th round he was picked in. And although not earth shattering, Wentz looked legit as the #2 overall. Just goes to show that you might not be able to nail down where these guys rate overall. For the record, I'm still a Watson guy. He's got more to offer than just field performance. Intangibles I believe they call 'em.

Speaking of Garrappolo and in regards to 'unknowns' in the QB FA market; AJ McCarron is being talked as a potential candidate. Wanna say some time ago Bill Polian spoke on this and of the two chose AJ. Oh yeah here it is: http://sportsnaut.com/2017/02/bill-polian-...2017-nfl-draft/

Apparently he (Kush) didn't get the memo from the NFLPA about not signing with the Bears.

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At the risk of being 'douchy' and about NE not signing players to big contracts; this article says otherwise. http://www.patspulpit.com/2015/7/16/897626...cts-for-players So with that rumor dispelled, about this contract thing. With having the Franchise designator looming couldn't Chicago work some deal with AJ and his agent to a tradable friendly contract knowing teams like NE could come knocking? And what's to say AJ wouldn't accept less knowing he could potentially go to a team like NE? Perhaps it's spelled out somewhere in the CBA that this can't be done but what's to say it isn't at least thought of? (Did i mention I know nothing of NFL contracts and draft value?).

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Had this peculiar thought cross my mind last night. More of a 'what if' than anything but since we're in the dead zone of the NFL, why not? I started wondering how bad do you think NE is for a big outside receiver? I know they have Amendola, Edelman and Hogan but they're more like quick twitch slot receivers. I'm talking big body Randy Moss types. Like say an Alston Jeffery? Keep that thought. John Clayton was on ESPN last night and was speculating that Belichick would probably be willing to let Garrapolo go for a 'good 2nd round pick' (like Chicago has). I should add I am not a fan of Garrapolo coming to Chicago BUT for a bargain deal like that, why not? Anyhow, what if they were to sweeten the deal like we give them AJ and our second for a few of their draft picks (like their 2nd and 3rd they got from the Browns). I'm sure Belichick will do some wheeling and dealing to get better picks anyhow. Clayton seems to think he likes more later round picks than he does 1st round so I could see him maybe dealing away their 32nd overall pick for someone elses later rounds. I'm not a draft or trade expert by any stretch. Guess it really boils down to does NE need a different style WR? Heck maybe part of the trade could involve our second and AJ for Garrapolo, (Edelman, Amendola or Hogan) and their second or third? Why not?

Meh. I get an Albert Haynesworth vibe from him. Gase got a good look at him last year and would probably give Vic and Foxy a fair assessment, or at least his opinion.

I like Garçon. He's pretty rugged as opposed to Royal or even AJ. Not so keen on his projected price tag. An advantage of having Pryor and Meredith on the team you wouldn't have to look too hard at signing back up QBs.

I was checking some video out on him and first gut feeling when i see him is RGIII. Or is that because I'm a Watson homer?

Not bad. Got Watson, a second first rounder and McCaffery. Agree on Dline. Don't know if the Bears need a slew of young uns just smart adds from FA.

Wouldn't need to if we trade back. Edit: and I should say that I wasn't necessarily advocating that the Bears pick them, just to take note.

Still a big fan of Watson as the first round pick. BUT two names that may need to be watched are TEs OJ Howard from Bama and David Njoku of Miami. Both are rising on draft boards. Remember it wasn't all that long ago our team picked a TE in the first round. Dude goes by the name of Greg Olsen.

*BOING* indeed!!!! Sadly I'll have to admit the 'ship has sailed' on McCown. His time to flourish for us was when the Mad Scientist was still here. Had they kept McCown instead of keeping (and signing) Cutler, where would we have been today? I'm good with how things worked out in the long run. Mostly that Fox is now the HC and FINALLY they are going to dump Cutler.

I'm partial to Sid Luckman in the '40s.

Comparisons to Dan Marino are pretty accurate.

Sorry no. This was the game that Jason has us all playing.