Mongo3451

So we need 4 more to make the predicted 20... 17. Treating the fans like morons in the press. 18. Making training camp "Club Med" 19. 54% win percentage for career. How many coaches have lasted that long with that? 20. "Rex Grossman is our quarterback".

Regarding Peppers, remember Richard Seymour as a Pat. Dude was a beast. Pep could thrive. Briggs and Url would be inside. Mcclellin outside. Melton and Wootton would be good ends. Just need a Raji or Wilfork type of player and another OLB. As I stated earlier, look how fast the Colts changed over this season. It can be done easily with our personnel.

I was chiseling through typing mine while you were posting this. Like...

I challenge that. Let's take the Colts for example. Can you name 3 players on each side of the ball that were on the team last year. I'm willing to wager nobody on this board can do it. With a couple of additions, our D will be fine. With a few additions our O will be fine also. What's not fine is our talent development and evaluation. That begins and ends with Lovie. Agree short term, vehimently disagree long term. If Cutler ever saw a pocket like Tom Brady has he would think he was on an episode of Punked. I challenge anyone to show me a clip of Cutler in a pocket with time to throw without either being in "max protect" or the defense "rushing three" to try to get a turnover. If we had an OL with talent, we would be moving people off the ball in the run game, the offense would be able to utilize all routes without extra protection. That's why the Pats are so successful, because the full threat is always there. For our offense, the full threat is not there. So defenses can play us differently knowing we aren't going to put up a ton of points to make them pay for their scheme. See above. And I don't give a crap what Cutler likes. He still needs a good OL to succeed.

Ha! Just to clarify, he played another season after the 2K. Favre still blows though...

Wayne Fontes had Superman and kryptonite all in one player. Barry Sanders. He was widely regarded as the most dynamic runner of all time. While that may be the case, he was also a drive killer. I don't think any running back in history had more negative yard rushes than Sanders. That being said, he tried to manage it and failed. Sanders was a big fan of Fontes, but had his greatest year the year after Fontes was replaced by Bobby Ross. Ross took them to the playoffs in his first season. Ross too, tried to manage Sanders ability. Ross' style is rumored to have caused Sanders' abrupt retirement the following season. If I remember correctly, it was Ross who started pulling Sanders out of the game when they got into scoring position. Lovie has Lovie...

Yeah, I think we could switch to 3-4 easily. Peppers, Melton, Wooten, Url, Mcclellin, Briggs could make the switch well. We would need another rusher and huge guy for the middle.

Elite QB's don't throw off their back foot. Hopefully he knows his production is not elite and doesn't demand to be paid as such. Of course we'll never know as long as he is running for his life in any scheme except max protect...

He can go 5 years ago. He is the only common thread to the teams failure.(unless you want to blame 54) Dude has more lives than a cat...

I've said it before. Not a fan so far. The Marshall trade was his signature piece, but believe anyone would have made that deal. I liked the Bush signing and that's it for free agents. Signing Briggs and Forte were no brainers as well. I felt it was idiotic to sign Campbell and the special teamers in lieu of OL. Also, disagreed with the draft strategy.(made me feel he was a Lovie puppet) I smelled a rat when they hired him, since he was known at Halas Hall. He was probably the only GM they could find to deal with Lovie. Of course that's all speculative. All told, we could have done better with another GM. Grade = D

We are differing on the roles of coaches and players. Bennett dropped the ball = he failed to execute. Before Bush got stuffed, Lovie dropped the ball. When a coach makes a mistake, there's the additional layer of failure. BTW, Bennett has 1 drop vs 23 catches for a 4.3% drop rate. Marshall has 7 in 91 catches for a 7.7%. Bennett will get a pass from most fans.

Because it's not an issue. Bennett choked, so what? He's notably one of the most reliable recievers in the NFL. He's officially dropped 2 less than Marshall this year. OTOH, the 4th and 1 is on coaching. You run a shitty OL into a good D. Take points off the board for a D that is very opportunistic with a lead. Give the opposition hope and lose a game that should have been won. Lovie and Tice are guilty of being fans.

Your analysis is flawed. You are simply starting the odds are similar between making the FG and converting the 1ST down. What you forgot is the odds to score points after the conversion are still there. Belichick is the only pro coach I know that subscribes to your theory. He has Tom Brady. When you dont take the points, you're kicking your defense in the nuts...

X2...

Yet, another side to Cutler you'll never see on ESPN.

This one hurts, but hopefully the huge infusion of speed will provide a spark...

Hypocrisy at its finest. Have a great time at the game.

I competely agree with your concerns, but truly believe an off season to regain old form will be a bonus for him. Emery has his work cut out doesn't he?

That's not how I read it. 3rd worst pass blocker and 3rd best run blocker. Give him another year to get his body right and the pass blocking will be better. Give the kid time.

Oh, my bad. Talking about our Webb. Just that he's 6'8" 355 and plays soft as a teddy bear. Kreutz would be on his ass all week to maul Allen. Just wishful thinking.

That's why we miss Kreutz. He would educate Mr Webb on the nuances required to insure people think twice about cheap shotting our players...

Read the whole post please...

We need to definately give Tice credit. As much as we've all ripped him for his failures, we must own his successes to be impartial. They better own up on the OL talent though.

Amen! While I admire Lovie and Co's optimism regarding players and their abilities, there seem to be a bit of arogance that goes with it. Do they really continually think they know something the rest of the NFL world doesn't?