Mongo3451

My opinion, for what it is worth... I said this pre-season so this is not a knee jerk reaction. If this defense can not get it's collective head out of it's ass, Lovie must go. Lovie told us not to worry and Lovie has been dead wrong for a season and a half so far. Nobody need blame Babich. If it were Babich, Lovie would have subplanted him already. The shame of this is, we were all clamoring about the offense being the hold up with statements like: If the offense could give the D a breather, If only the offense could score early in the game. If the offense could put points on the the board, the D could pin it's ears back and get to the QB. If only we could get Mike Brown, Url and Tommie healthy, the D would be stellar. All those wishes have been granted by the football gods. Since Chico left, it's been Lovie and everyone knows it. Now, here's the problem if we fire Lovie - we lose Turner. Stop laughing, as I kinda chuckled too. But, if you look at it, he's finally got the balance required to run his scheme and it is working. If Turner goes, Orton has to learn another playbook and the offense could take a step back. Combine that with the new coach coming in and installing a new D, of which we would probably not have the personnel to run it. As bad as our D is, imagine how bad it would be if they had to change to a scheme not suited to their collective skillset. It's all Lovie...

First, unless Brown is 100%, I sit him. I'd go with Manning and play him a tad deeper than usual. I'd also suggest playing starting Grahm and play vasher at nickel, as we need our best tacklers on the outside. I would run a lot of run blitzes and make Collins beat us. Anything to get the D Line fired up, as they the key to our success.

Two things. I could give a crap who scores, unless they are on my fantasy team. Second, I have no problem with Rex celebrating. The look on his face was pure joy. After what he's been through, I think he deserves to let go a little.(and us fans should be happy for him) It's not like he thought that TD earned him the starters job.

I know I'm going to sound like Lovie on this, but... We have to play the player that gives us the best chance of winning. I'll take Orton if he says he can play. The next part is what Lovie probably would not do. If I'm Lovie, I tell Orton he's getting a quick hook at the 1st sign that the injury is affecting his play or judgement. Rex did barely enough for us to win the game Sunday, but he looked like the same Rex as last year. (plodding, deliberate, locked into a receiver) Rex just has no Moxie.

My guess is that the publication made a mistake. No way we pay that.

Just saw Tommie Harris in last nights episode of Criminal Minds on DVR. The good part is, he really sucks at acting. So, he'll have more time to focus on earning his pay check.

On offense: I am loving what I am seeing from Orton. It seems like he get cooler every week. We are finally getting our TE's more involved. Our OL gets no push, but are surprising me at pass blocking. Matt Forte is being used too much. IMO - Jones should be getting more reps in the 2nd half of the season, as I don't want to see Forte completly worn down. On defense: I have to believe there is some life left in the pass rush. Hunter and M. Brown look slow as get out. We are 8 points away from being undefeated. In each of those defeats our defense was gashed when it counted. Time for the money side of the ball to step up or I can see some surprising cuts and/or trades this off-season. ST: Solid as usual!

My washed up player is Hilly. He was awful today. If he's not in perfect position, he's completely unable to make a play.

I'm not far from agreeing with this thought. Harris may be able to draw value if he can prove he is healthy. Url, I think a coach like Belichick would salivate to have a backer with his size and speed. A beast DE is key to a pass rush and we need at least 2 high picks at OT and OG next year. Add a top safety prospect and we are out of luck without extra picks. We'll have a lot to discuss again this off-season.

Nail on the head on that one.

Hopefully, he makes it back to form so we can have the option to keep or trade, this off-season.

Undeniably the biggest pu$$y on the team last year.

Let me play "Internet Psychologist" for a minute.(Just for Cracker) Calling out team mates on the heels of getting his $$$$ Professing to be a minister in the making, yet having children out of wedlock? I'm no prude and am thinking he was tapping some fine young ass, but I'm positive the bible doesn't speak highly of it. Now he's a late for treatment and getting into it with the coach. Also whining about Bradley leaving? I wonder if that is who had the kid? Remember, this is the same Tommie Harris that questioned his own desire to play football a few years ago. I remember many of us debating what he may or may not do with his career after he got his big payday. I'm not judging the man, but I do see some warning signs of a man in a crossroad.

I wanted to get him too, but none of us wanted him at #4. I was hoping for a trade down and Johnson.

Weren't you one of the first in line at the Tampax machine after our loss to Carolina? Nothing like being a hindsight internet genius...

I hope our staff is smart enough to sit Tommie for another week or two. When feeling good, he is a beast. Idonije outplayed what Harris has done lately. Lovie, sit Tommie! It's looking like we can make a playoff push and a healthy Tommie Harris will go a long long way. We have enough average guys to fill his shoes right now, we don't need Tommie average.

Personally, I don't see how Kyle was on the bubble with you. If not for some crappy defense, Olsens fumbles and P'nuts penalty, we'd likely be undefeated. Kyle had 10 point leads and huge TOP advantage going into the 4th quarter of both losses. You'd think a shutdown defense would take it from there.

Sadly, it would have been of more benefit to him if he was found guilty. Now, he still has no accountabilty for being a turd.

The one I want to see is the "Button Hook" route by Hester. Drive your man upfield turn, grab and cut. If they can get that one to work, then they can do a "hook and go". Hester accelleration would make him a force at this play, especially devastating would be a "hook and go-out",where the reciever would take an angle toward the sideline as they were heading downfield. Harder for the safety to roll over. Hell, I'd venture to say Lloyd could run it as well.

It's the cover two principle. The DL is conditioned like a bunch of track athletes and are undersized. Look at the Colts and even Tampa. All played worse in the 2nd half. Fact is: Tampa lost it 1st, but we completely gave the game away with three horrible plays. 1) AP's block in the back(and it was a good call) 2) Davis wide open drop (almost like alligator arms) 3) P'nuts gaffe. (no f'n excuse) Game over. Our D gave it up, but theirs did too. (that's even)

I don't think it's as much camp Lovie as it is a combo of two things. 1) We don't rotate our subs well. 2) Why the F%&k are we wearing midnight blue when it's 90 on the field. Didn't Carolina make us wear dark last week when it was hot at their place? To me, it's that our staff is oblivious to forward thinking...

My assessment is this: On offense: They did enough to win this game. Our time of possession was obscene at one point. Like when we had a 10 point lead. Side note: Forte is a young horse, but at this rate they are going to run his dick into the dirt by mid season. On defense: We got NO push from our DL in the 2nd half. My thought is that we need to put Tommie on the shelf for a game or two. I’d rather have stud Harris than average Harris any day. They need to rotate more subs in the DL. The isolation play with Hunter on Stevens was idiotic. Not in a million years do you leave him on an island with him. The Tillman play cost us the game, period. (I admire the fight in him, but that was ball game!) Special Teams: D manning came up big, countered by AP’s crucial (and unnecessary) penalty. That was also huge as it was about a 30 yard swing in field position. Chance to be a hero (Gould) at 49 yards it’s a 50/50 for him. We win if he hits. All in all, back to back choke jobs make me want to vomit.

I just blew a nut over it!!!

Gas the truck up Bubba!!

Agreed on us stopping the run first. I would employ Url and Brown as a Hi/Lo shadow everytime AP touches the ball. Plus, Adams and Toeina should be active. What sucks is this... Minny is in the exact QB quandry we are in. So, we may have to overpay to beat out a division rival on the Free agent / Trade market / Draft to try to obtain a franchise QB. Bad thing is, they are more ready for than we are with OL, AP and Berrian in place.