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The first half is also conjecture. Since we didn't see anyone else of note in the Bears 2011 offense at LT, we don't know how well they would have done.

Interesting thought. Depending on the $$, I'd potentially be inclined to agree. Roy was given his shot and he didn't do nearly as well as expected. Having said that, however, Roy put up almost as much last year, in a "bad" year, than Thomas has his entire career.

You still don't get it. NOBODY WAS AGAINST THREE WRS! NEARLY EVERYONE IS AGAINST MARSHALL+GOOD FA+1ST ROUNDER And that's what you were calling for. Signing Weems and Thomas is not what you were calling for. So, once again, you are/were not right. My goodness, man, how many times do you have to read this for it to sink in? Do I literally have to go back and start posting links to your comments about this?! I believe you are right, however, about Komar. If he's on the team I'll be shocked. And if you expect people to read the entirety of your posts, then perhaps you should read their entire posts. Our original issue happened because you made a stupid comment when you didn't read the entire post I made about Knox's health. The original reply you made was stupid. To get your panties in a twist over a commonly used synonym (i.e. braindead) is a little much. Notice I didn't get upset when you obviously took it from level 1 all the way to level 11.

Maybe nobody would have looked "good" last year in the offense, but just about everyone else who played LT in the NFL last year would have looked "better."

You didn't go to the finals...where the 85 Bears somehow lost in the S.Finals to the Raiders. That's what is so ignorant. No way that Raiders team hangs with the 85 Bears.

Bad, rounded routes. As we've seen with Knox, this gets Cutler into trouble. Smaller and weaker. Could have problems getting off the LOS against press coverage. Benefit of RGIII. Because he had an incredible talent throwing him the ball, and opposing defenses were preoccupied with RGIII, I believe his senior season stats are inflated. Lightning in a bottle, if you will. And because of that, he's being valued higher than he should be. Don't get me wrong, I think he'll be decent in the pros, but I don't think he's a first round WR.

http://www.nfl.com/features/bracketology/a...meteams?round=5 Seriously?!

I think you're right...which is what worries and disgusts me. Tice's love-crush with Webb is dangerous for this franchise.

Where do you see the word "because" in my sentence? I said, "overrated, short". Is he short? Yes. Is he overrated? I believe so.

http://www.walterfootball.com/draft2012.php 1. Kendall Wright, WR 2. Jerel Worthy, DT 3. Cam Johnson, DE 4. Ladarius Green, TE 5. Shaun Prater, CB Wow. That would suck ass. A short, overrated WR when superior OL talent is there, an inconsistent and somewhat lazy DT, a slow DE with physical problems and possible disease, a TE who is actually a slot WR or H-Back who lacks true TE blocking skills (which is also ignoring the fact that Davis was resigned), and a 5th round CB who is actually pretty good for the round and for Lovie's system.

Exactly. And as long as he can send an edge rusher down Cutler's throat via the LT highway, I don't think he's that worried.

I agree with the approach (early drafted rookie over busted up pro), but I also think regardless of injury history, if dude can get on the field at all, he's better than Webb.

HAHAHAHAHA! There is no doubt he's better than Webb. Now, if you're saying, "Why take a medium step up when we should be taking a large step up for a serious upgrade," then I wholeheartedly agree with you. But there is no doubt he's better than Webb.

All players risk injury. Eschewing a position because your guy happened to get injured is a foolish way to plan for your team's draft.

Or hell, for that matter the Bears could go with Bush as their #1 and pick up LaMichael James as a change of pace back in the third/fourth. If the deal is sweet, I don't have a problem with the trade. 1st and a 3rd oughta do it. It's BEAR DOWN!, not Forte DOWN.

Agreed. It's not normal. But it's more likely someone with incredible medical help, some of the most advanced therapy in the world, and a slew of trainers/doctors/therapists/nutritionists, not to mention nearly unlimited financial support, should be able to accelerate a normal person's rehab schedule. And on top of that, he's an impeccably healthy pro athlete who has nothing to do other than all of the above. I'm still holding out hope it's PUP and not IR.

I honestly thought it was still possible. I came back fully healthy from a torn MCL/ACL in just 3 months. Some people heal quickly. I should know; I'm one of them. I also have experience with things like this because I broke my neck as a young kid and came back from it. And I didn't have the incredible resources a guy like Knox has in his corner.

But you didn't know that conclusively until the report. Which is why the WR in the first didn't make sense post-Marshall. Now it makes a little more sense, but it's still more prudent to get one of the four LTs if he drops to the Bears at 19, because after that it's very thin. Meanwhile, the WRs in the draft are very deep, and good talent can be found in rounds 2-4.

HELL NO. At 19, that would be an incredibly stupid pick.

1. Martin 2. Floyd 3. Coples I obviously choose OL. I believe the addition of Martin would provide a nearly elite OL of: Martin-Williams-Garza-Louis-Carimi But if they think that Williams is ready to move back over to LT, then I'd hope they'd make that move early and pick Floyd. Floyd would be a great addition, but the Bears already got a guy identical to him in the offseason. Coples would be a great addition to the D, but I don't think his impact on the DL would be as great as the impact on the OL. This is mostly due to coaching because I don't believe the way the Bears scheme plays Defense, and more specifically rushes the passer, is ideal for an elite pass rusher. They appear to limit the movement of the DE to make him less dynamic by having him rush upfield almost exclusively.

I'm ALL in favor of Chris Williams at LT. Hell, if they decide Carimi is the LT, I'm happy with Williams at RT. I want those two guys as the bookends they were drafted to be. I don't subscribe to the "this guy is a LT" and "that guy is a RT" talk. If a guy can play tackle, he can play tackle. Whatever the case is, I want Webb off the field.

I'm taking the middle ground here. Was it a slap in the face to Forte? Sure. Is Forte handling it incredibly badly? Absolutely. Would it have happened if Forte had signed the fair deal he was offered? Nope. Was it a wise business decision by the Bears? Maybe. Sure, they've hedged their bets on a Forte hold out, but now they've essentially said they're willing to go through the season with Bush as the #1 if Forte decides to hold out. But at the same time, they've told potential FAs that they play hardball with their own guys, and this could be something that dissuades other FAs from coming to the team.

Understood, but there are just as many 1st round WR busts as OL. Actually, I'd bet there are more. The fact that neither Williams nor Carimi were slotted ahead of Webb when the season began is an indictment of Tice as a talent evaluator more than anything. Once the injuries happened all bets were off. Tice has a history of categorizing his OLinemen based on unique characteristics, and I think it hinders his creativity at times. In other words, as soon as he says "Webb is a LT" or "Carimi is a RT," that's where he sees them, and only where he sees them. He'll move them around if injuries force his hand, but he'd rather put them where he sees them. As for the year-by-year breakdown, it's pretty hard to argue that those stats lie. Those are cumulative offensive stats for the entire year. And there is only one year the Bears aren't in the bottom half of the league: the year they had a stable OL with highly drafted talent.

Waiting for everyone to chime in about how much they despise this pick. After all, dude is only 5'10". I wouldn't like the pick because that would mean the Bears are taking the leftovers in RD1. If Wright is there that means an equally or higher rated LT or DE is there, and I'd much rather see one of those guys because LT and DE are much thinner than WR. Hell, the Bears could get a LT/DE in #1 and still get a very good guy at #2 (Randle, Jeffery, Sanu) and another good guy at #3 (Toon, McNutt, Criner, Jones).

I've said numerous times that Louis was the best of the worst. By that I mean, he was average at best, but looked good because he's been in a unit with E.Williams, Webb, Spencer, Omiyale the past two years. I think he's got decent push at times, bad feet, and let's defenders get too far into his body on a regular basis. Better at run blocking than pass blocking, IMO. What I do like about him alot, however, is his tenacity and his aggressive behavior. On screens he almost always follows-up even if he's not leading the play. On loose balls he always hustles. And we all saw him chase down Cameron Wimbley in the Oakland game last year. Louis > Omiyale at OT? Absolutely Lous good at OT? No Louis good at OG? No Louis average with upside at OG? Yes If the OL has Louis in is, I wouldn't be upset. But I would hope that means the Bears either drafted a first round LT, or moved Chris Williams to LT while drafting a first/second round OG or C (which would mean Garza moves back to OG).