BearFan2000

We're letting them back in it

WE better not let them back in it in the 4th Quarter. Here's when we find out if the Bears can deliver the knockout blow.

Defense really has stepped it up this half we've been enjoying great field position. We need a TD and need to get the running game going

Need to take full advantage of the turnovers. Two big detroit turnovers deep and we only get FG's out of them.

Fumble - Bears Ball!!!

That was a heck of a draw on that kick. Looked like it was badly hooked and came back good job Robbie 52 yarder

Good three and out Go Bennet

how many muffed returns have the Lions had I count 3 so far

Thats the way to start a second half TD Knox

it was horrible they were given that first TD every time they were force to the FG the refs bail them out with a penalty that gives them a first down. On that last drive the big run by Stafford should have been negated. The guy who could have tackled him was himself tacked by the offensive line. I'm so freaking sick of watching our guys get held and no call but anything that could possibly be a on the Bears is flagged. Now that said the defense is not holding up their end of the bargain. Way too many easy open catches for big gains. They are making the Lions look like a high powered offense. for the most part we've let them do whatever they wanted. Crappy/iffy calls and blatant no calls only add insult to injury. As it is we are tied 21 all and will get the ball to start the second half. Till the defense wakes out of it's coma the offense is going to have to keep the tempo up.

Comments? Regardless of what happens here we need to win today I'd like to see a decisive win but I'll take a win. GB wins and they improve to 3-1 and Minny drops to 3-1 and if we win we improve to 3-1. 3 way tie for the division with the 1-3 lions at the bottom GB looses and they drop to 2-2 and Minny improves to 4-1 and if we win we improve to 3-1. we would move into second place. I have to think that this matchup favors the Packers. Minnesota hasn't had a true test like this yet. The 49ers should have beaten them last week but due to a fluke didn't. The Vikings have been flirting with failure and this time I think it bites them. I personally don't see this one being lopsided either way but wouldn't be surprised if it did get that way. Either way it should be an entertaining game.

I'm all for a strong start we've started sluggish on both sides of the ball every game and I'd like to see us take our first possession and drive down for a TD. I'd like to see the Bears start out sharp.

Stop the presses Turner admits he was wrong? You're right admitting it and changing are two different things, but let's hope that he does in fact change it. I think he needs to change the way he uses wolf altogether. Running the shortest guy on your team up the gut is not a wise use. Wolf has speed and would be better utilized in the short passing game out of the backfield, RB screen, and outside runs to utilize his speed. We run him into a wall of defenders and you negate his best asset.

Thanks, that does make sense. if he were to field and and advance it out of the end zone into the field of play, retreat back into the end zone and be tackled or run out of bounds then it would be a safety. I just was wondering because he possessed the ball inside the end zone as pictured below, then retreated out of the end zone to down it. Not sure why he didn't just let it got through the end zone. no point in attempting to return that. But thanks for the explaination I wasn't real clear on it but figured it wasn't since the refs were right there and no one reacted to it and the announcers said nothing I figured it was legal. But this is one of my fav shots from the game. and this one

I was re-watching the game and got to thinking...Isn't this technically a safety? He fields the kickoff in bounds backpedals out of bound and downs the ball out of bounds? Always thought if you on your own step out of the back of the end zone it's a safety? I could be wrong if the rules are different on Kick off returns as opposed to being on offense and stepping on the end line. Probably a dumb question but curiosity. Along those lines the kickoff pictured here is the one following the roughing which honestly that's a worthless penalty to simply kick it off 15 yards further up field. Unless you have a kicker who struggles with distance it's going to be a touchback. Too bad it can't be tacked on to the end of the ensuing kick return.

For this year Favre is in the NFC North who knows if it's just a one year thing or if he'll pull the retirement crap again this coming offseason. Or will he be back with the Vikings next year. But you are right if Stafford shakes out then the division could be interesting with four good competitive teams. The NFC North could become one of the tougher divisions in the next few years. When was the last time that all the teams in our Division were good?

Makes ya miss ol Roy Williams during Lions week lol

I'm glad they got the win. It's really mind blowing to think that their last win came in the 07 season. That my friends is sad. They acted like the won the super bowl yesterday the coach paraded the team back out to celebrate with their fans. Having them get this monkey off their back is huge and it will take a little of the motivation now it has been mentioned that the last time they won two straight was when they beat the bucs and then us I think that was the 07 season as well. The lions are still a bad team. But I do give them credit for fighting and week one and two they put up a good fight for a while but eventually fell last week they beat a bad Redskins team I want to see us not only beat the Lions but beat them convincingly. We can only do so if we come out and establish the tempo early we need to dictate. You let a team like Detroit hang around you will be in a dogfight.

That is my hope that it is mostly an in sync issue but that only excuses the offense this defense for the most part has been together for a while. Biggest problems I see is the obvious lack of wrapping up that TD by JJ would not have happen had one of the two guys on him wrapped up and simply pushed him out of bounds instead he breaks away from two guys who had him in their grasp and runs down the field for the TD. Effective use of the pass rush. I see guys rushing their way out of the play. Over running a running back It's good to come after the back and QB with speed but you need to stay under control and not run yourself out of the play. On the flip side the positive is that we didn't let that early slow start keep us from getting in a position to win. We were in position to win at GB and won the next two. They could have laid down and let the thing slip away. But they kept fighting.

he was getting stymied by a rookie in his third game. It's time to say goodbye to Tommie if that's all the better we can expect. Get someone in there who will make an impact.

Listened to it as well and he's not all negative, He pointed out many positives as well. He was ripping on Tommie and questioned whether our only constant pressure will come when we have statue QBs and below average tackles. He made some comments about the OL and the run game. first three hours of that conversation is linked on the score's website http://www.670thescore.com about half way down the page and to the right

I have to wonder if the hammy Forte tweaked this offseason in workouts is still bothering him. He looks like he can't quite open up or is tentative to open up. There also aren't a lot of holes to run through. Our biggest run plays have been outside runs. The thing with Forte is he looks like he's lost a little confidence.

the game could have gone either way but the Bears made enough plays to win so I wouldn't say we didn't deserve to win, In an ugly game we found a way to win. Should we have won with less drama, yes. But I'd have been ticked had we lost a game we should have won. We're 2-1 whether we won going away or barley won. There are things that need to improve but there are positives as well.

Let's not forget when he was drafted he was rated better for his pass blocking than his run blocking and that has played out true to form he needs to work on run blocking but he is young. Building an effective OL is not an easy task. OL is a group effort all pieces need to do their part. Each man has to execute his assignment but all 5 need to do their jobs for the whole to work. I do remember hearing that Beakman is waiting in the wings and that his play during OTA's, Training Camp and Preseason that Omiyale would be on a short leash. I would not be surprised to see Josh get the nod in the next week or two. Pace does look old. Kruetz time may be winding down he looks like he may be getting slow especially when he has to pull to block on screens. Now the thing we have seen with Kruetz is that he will try to help out a teammate who is blowing their assignment and neglects his. The OL is a mess. But so was Denvers, Jay is used to compensating so that does buy us some time to figure out how to plug some holes while the line gels I do get tired of seeing the line of scrimmage being re-established in our backfield.

excellent analysis. That doesn't even include Olsen and Davis (other than part of Jays numbers). Lots of positives going on here. As this season progresses I think the various receivers will find their niche in this offense and we will start to see this offense emerge and gain confidence. I love the fact that Jay is spreading the ball around. There was a comment that I think I heard on the pre-game that I'll echo, whoever is open is his favorite receiver. He doesn't lock on to guys and keeps his eyes down field and moves with intent to throw first run second. The telling thing is when you include the stats of the GB game in and he still is above average with his stats. We get this running game going and Jay can use play action he will scare the heck out of opposing defensive coordinators. He's more dangerous on the run than he is in the pocket. I like how our receivers are getting it as far as giving Jay a target when he is on the run. The more on the same page and the more trust they develop in each other the more effective they will be. another intersting thing is the stat he came in with is his record when opponents are held under 21. I forget the stat but this season he's 2-0 in that situation. GB scored 21 and both Pitt and Seattle were held under 21. THe former was a loss the latter two were wins.