Stinger226

Good post but until the Bears are sold? Its a slow change or find a new team.

I suspect when he said it would take 4 to 5 yrs of drafts to build a winner and we are only in yr 3, they may have believed him. Add in the bad coach they gave him the choice to work with may give him another yr. He did a complete rebuild, Im not sure any GM has ever did that before. Maybe Jim Finks?

Everyone gets some of the blame, I trust Poles to find someone than Warren and George. Whether Flus was his choice or not, he has bought into the coahes that came in. i think he is smart and puts him in a better position to make a better choice than constant russian roulette every 3 yrs.

Yes we can

Truthfully, I dont disagree with you, i just dont think the Bears are firing him, so I roll with the notion he is going to be here.

Yesterday if i posted I would have brought gasoline to the bonfire, but today, Im going to quit looking into the past( 7 game losing streak) and try ti find positives for this team for the future. It only needs to start with Caleb, we have a top 5 type Qb, the rest will fall into place. With saying that, he gets some blame for this debacle to, as a rookie he has a long way to go, but Im already looking at next year and his future. Its never as bad as it looks or as good as it looks. Its a team with the arrow pointing up with Caleb here. What coach said (only losers live in the past). That's my take also.

Im willing to say we are the worst team in the league right now but that doesnt mean we are void of talent. My proof that we arent that far away that 6 new trench players (draft and FAs) could fix is the 4 games we played good teams that was lost at the end of games. Its still a loss but i think it means we are closer to their talent level than miles away. they all added players this yr to , yet we competed. Im willing to say with a good coach we would have beat at least 3 of those teams and easily beat NE. So we would be 8-5 and that almost happened with a terrible coach.

You can talk for 50 hours that doesnt make a statement true. facts are no one knows unless a hallas hall employee puts his name on the story. By history of the franchise, they are not payig 10 mil for Flus to walk away and then big money on a name, Im not claiming a source, Im just guessing just like you. I am just giving my opinion on stories, just like you, Im not claiming to know anything. Its all fiction until someone puts a name on it.

So what makes you think the next guy does everything the right way? You take a chance on changing defense scheme, maybe not believing in Caleb, hires the wrong coach. all of the same problems we have right now. Poles needs to get this yr to prove he stablizes the franchise. No matter what mistakes he has made, he has did as many good things. We cant keep reaching for near perfect, that's not going to happen here. He got us Caleb, lets dont reset and have a couple yrs of setbacks because of new people.

Totally agree, emotionally responding to losing has everythink looking bad. Poles had a plan at OL, it simply failed. Davis was a check out, Jones has regressed, jenkins is always hurt, Bates never healthy and Wright up and down. Add 3 FA or high draft picks and this will look completely different.

Williams is not Flus, to much info to try to inject in a game. He failed and still could be a decent DC, need more input. We can talk about 10 team captains on this team but some players have lost focus, not talent, its a mess right now. Time we start pointing fingers at players. First would be T Stevenson.

From a reality look, he would have one target no matter how its listed in the stats.

I dont think its as bad as you say but we do need 4 new bodies on the OL and DL. I think we will be drafting between 5-7. In that spot we can have a choice of the top 2 OL prospects in the draft. We grab a LT, Jones has fallen off, make him the swing T and he will be okay as a backup. Kiran was brought in to compete at LT but not this year, you draft Will Campbell/LSU that could play several positions. Who ever wins the LT battle, the other guy goes to LG. Bring back Jenkins to compete for that spot at a team friedly contract.(injuries) We have 4 top 72 picks. No center is rated hiring than a late 2nd round so i suspect we can get a good prospect in the 3rd round. Resign Shelton , Bates is already here( may not be for long) and have them compete for OC. Get Trey Smith ( I dont care what it costs) for RG. Wright/RT has been up and down but still has great upside. I think that fixes the OL. Dont resign Allen that is a luxury a bad team cant afford. Bring in some later picks to compete, Scott is still on the roster but dont expect anything. Kmet is an above average TE that has simplily not been given enough targets this yr to look good. Everett hasnt showed anything because he isnt part of the offensive plan but he is signed for next yr, might as well just give him some snaps. Because of the emotional reaction to a 7 game losing streak we are in (burn it down) mode. We have some good players, Caleb Williams and cap space/draft capital. If we could fire Poles and bring in a Belicheck type, it could save our future. they are not hiring a 20 mil a yr guy, so forget the hero hire. If we keep changing everything every 3 yrs, we will be always be in chaos. Since we have Caleb now, we need to find stabity at least with Poes staying in place of which I dont think is getting fired anyways. So Poles will have to make the right hire but we have to leave Warren out of it. He's the person that blow off a Harbaugh talk. (clashed as Big 10 commish). Vrabel, Gruden, I dont want a new coach type learning curve. With 4 yrs of Caleb left we need to roll day one. With a good coach hire, and some new bodies we should be a winning team next yr.

Eric Lambert is the biggest storyteller on the Bears beat, i dont believe anything he posts. If you go by the timeline, it suggests Poles didnt get to look for the coach , it got dumbed in his lap. You dont make waves the first day you walk in the door.

That is very clear. Bad mouth Flus all you want for being a HC but he was good as a D playcaller.

I havent able to read minds for about 20 yrs now, clearly you're right, why would an iconic franchise want to win to preserve the name.

Clearly the owners have an inept way to run a franchise. They want to win as badly as other owners but they get in their own way. Until they sell it fans will have to deal with the mistakes they make. Its plain to see they try to control what the GM and president does. When we get new people, we blame them for chaos when its the brass . We hear all kinds of stories about who might be the problem but none it matters where the fault falls. Poles has fixed the cap and brought in talent in his third yr. He seems like the smartest guy in the room by some of his actions. Warren is a polititian and people point to him to be the guy to fix it, he's not experienced enough to do it. He's going to get the stadium built and runs for Mayor of Chicago. We have to trust Poles to figure it out. He may luck out and find the next coach already on the team, Brown, and OC in Beatty. If they go to a hiring contest George s going to get involved and we'll be back wondering if its the right guy. The key to this team is Caleb and might as well keep it as stable as possible with him working with Brown and Beatty . The next 5 games determines if they stay or not.

SF is 2 games out in their division at 5-7. They have 2 division games left. No way a Shanahan will let then check out. he's telling them if they win out , they can make the playoffs. They have superior coaching but their injuries put them at a disadvantage, I think its going to come down to the end of the game and the more physical team will win. If DJ Moore and Swift play we have a shot, if not ?????

Poles has much more experience with the interworking of the footbsll side than Warren. Warren is a lawyer by trade and built a stadium, he didnt all of a sudden become a football survant. That would be like turning the coach search over to George, just a business CEO, of which probably has final say anyways and why everything is always failing.

I think we can find reasons to hire someone or reasons not to according whether you like him or not. Belicheck has been fired twice but everyone knows he's a major talented coach. I think , like you, if will be a smooth transisition to keep a coach that has helped Caleb play better, shows play calling ability and can keep the same offensive system for next yr. If Brown goes at least 3-2 and the offense is much better its a no brainer. A new coach may want a different roster, may like a 3-4 defense, add a new offense that will have a learning curve for a young QB. Stability is not over rated, quicker to get to the promise land.

I thought Love had an intercetion?

Poles took a GM job with the parameter of he had bosses that interject into his job. There is enough noise to suspect some of it is true. I think he is a smart man and will try to overcome something he has no control over. Until ownership changes we cant do anything about interference from the owners. We can just hope Poles gets what he wants. Why would any of that change if we hired all new people? Its best to roll with a GM that had made positive effects on the roster and cap space.

We get to watch in real time, him audition for the job.

It may not be Trey Smith but any vet help at the top of talent scale will not be cheap. The OL has been a big puddle of mud this yr. Injuries come into play but I think he brings one quality FA to stabilize the OL. he will add a couple rookies but rookies have learning curves. The experiment with Nate Davis a above average talent at 10 mil a yr didnt work out. He will pay more for a better option. Last year, Lions brought in Kevin Zeitler at 35 for 6 mil but you take chances on older players. We need a fix now while Caleb has 4 more yrs small cap space left. Dave Dalman is a talented center that's a FA this yr and the Falcons will have cap problems next yr. Maybe they go after him. Humphrey is making 18 mil a yr as the top center and Dalman will get at leat 12+ Maybe they grab him, brig back Jenkins, and draft a pouple of OGs. Next yr the OL has to be ready to go, they cant experiment anymore, Smith or Dalman would solidify a younger line.

I think if they draft a LT high, they let him and jones battle for the spot and loser is swing T. Also Kiran name will come into play since Poles drafted him for competion at LT. One of them may be shifted to OG. Since Poles was in KC when they drafted Trey Smith, i think he goes after him to anchor the right side of the line. him and Wright would bully players on defense. Chiefs effective cap space next yr is 5.7 mil. They just dont have the money to keep Smith. Smith will commmand 20 + mil a yr and I think Poles fits that in his cap space.