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Week 4 Official Game Thread - LAR @CHI, 9/29, 12pm, CHI -3, FOX
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
CW is looking better but he has many overthrows not anyone elses fault. It bothers me he has double cluched on three passes now, he just needs to throw the ball. And yet enough good things are happening , we are going to win this game. -
Week 4 Official Game Thread - LAR @CHI, 9/29, 12pm, CHI -3, FOX
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
CW is going to be blue chip but he's not there yet. -
Week 4 Official Game Thread - LAR @CHI, 9/29, 12pm, CHI -3, FOX
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
We are going to have to settle for a FG, CW missed that play. -
Week 4 Official Game Thread - LAR @CHI, 9/29, 12pm, CHI -3, FOX
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
We have not looked good but WE are still winning this game. I'm okay with that. -
Week 4 Official Game Thread - LAR @CHI, 9/29, 12pm, CHI -3, FOX
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
Viking 28 GB 0 -
Week 4 Official Game Thread - LAR @CHI, 9/29, 12pm, CHI -3, FOX
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
Viking 21 GB 0 , just threw that in. -
Week 4 Official Game Thread - LAR @CHI, 9/29, 12pm, CHI -3, FOX
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
Everyone is pressing. Yet we are now winning. This will not be a pretty win, but I still think we win. -
Week 4 Official Game Thread - LAR @CHI, 9/29, 12pm, CHI -3, FOX
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
Defense will keep us in this game. -
Week 4 Official Game Thread - LAR @CHI, 9/29, 12pm, CHI -3, FOX
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
This game will come down to the end of the game and will live or die on mistakes. Rams will produce yardage but have a tough time scoring TDs. We will have a tough time looking good on offense but will be in to the game at the end. Hopefully we win. -
Week 4 Official Game Thread - LAR @CHI, 9/29, 12pm, CHI -3, FOX
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
What we have seen so far from this regime is CW is special, develop him. Our offense has been geared to the CW passing offense that we will see in the near future. It has not worked so far because of poor execution, poor QB play, lack of a running game. CW has some wow plays but also some poor decision plays. 5 TOs in 3 games is a bad stat foe any QB. This is what a rookie QB being developed looks like. Everyone looks at a game from Daniels and last yr from Stoud but those are not the norm. This team turned the starter role to CW right away, they have given him the full plate of plays to develop him and this is what itv looks like so far. The Bears are all in on CW and as he improves every week we will have some ugly wins and losses. When he is up to speed , he will look good for the whole game not a handful of plays. We will discover a running game when they accept CW as a threat and lanes open up for running as the defense worries about our 5 weapons on offense. I think the coaches have to adjust to each game but the end game is to develop CW and they are doing that. -
Week 4 Official Game Thread - LAR @CHI, 9/29, 12pm, CHI -3, FOX
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
Actually both can be successful. You are right they are doing things in Daniels wheelhouse that allows him to suceed now . We have given everything to CW to learn and that's why he has struggled but the ceiling is the target , not his floor. Its a work in progress. -
Week 4 Official Game Thread - LAR @CHI, 9/29, 12pm, CHI -3, FOX
Stinger226 replied to adam's topic in Bearstalk
The teams are loading the box against us to stop the run. They are forcing us to pass to make CW beat us. I looked at the all 22 on last weeks game and they had 8-9 players in the box and the free safety 8 yds from scrimmage most of the day. Not excusing bad player execution but that had a big effect on the game. LA is bad and they are coming off a big game ( beating SF) , traveling and will be playing at 10 AM their time. Their coach and QB are better than ours but with 3 rookies starting on the line, this is not going to go well for the Rams. -
Is Lewis talking about CW? He may react differently to CW than to the other players because he is a rookie QB. He shouldnt thou, CW can handle it
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Agree with that, not physical enough. I think Flus allows his coaches to coach and I bet he was more involved this week than the previous 3 games. Waldron is trying to finess to much.
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I get it, your not buying into until you see it. Im speaking more from a hopeful state. Flus needs to be more involved to get what he needs from the OC. Waldron was a OC for two yrs and he accomplished some success with a retread QB not a rookie. I think he thinks he need to take it easy because he's a rookie but when you have a talent like CW he will be able to accept it. They all will look better this week because there is a lot of strong character guys in the room.
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I see everything you do but I think its fixable, I get the impression you dont?
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On the positive side, we have won our last 6 home games and the next 3 games are at home. Is everyone okay with a 4-2 record?
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My point was a 1-2 record does not make a profound statement that all our coaches are bad. If this offensive trainwreak continues , I'll jump on the bandwagon of everyone is bad but it's still early. I've listen to about 20 podcasts discussing this topic and to me there is a communication problem between OC and QB. Did anyone hear Mercedes Lewis talk? He basically siad Waldron isnt calling people out for screwing up. Trying to be the nice guy. I think CW has shown improvement in every game but for anyone to say he is not part of the problem is misguided. The defense doesnt set until we line up , lets say they load the box and he is expected to change the play change the line call if necessary , if he dorsnt make the adjustment, the play looks bad which is on him. I credit the coaches for giving him everything and letting him be fully invested in the offense but if is in game adjustments arent being made, some of this disfunction is on him. They are not babing him so he is learning on the job so by the second half of the season the offense will look better as he grows. There are lots of stupid play calling going on like playing shotgun in the red zone. Flus had made some bad decisions also and as a whole, its dysfuncional. Flus, Waldron, and CW all need to do better to make this work. Then you take in account the player building by Poles and its a mess on offense. We have Bates coming back in two games and Kiwan should be ready so OL help is close. Pryor has a few crap plays but overall was a lot better than Davis. ( everyone was right on Davis where as I was hoping from the player he put on film in Tenn) EVERYONE is to blame for this dysfunction.
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So would you say SF 1-2, Rams 1-2 , Denver 1-2 and Miami 1-2 have all bad coaches? In their past they all have a history of winning, a coach in his 3rd yr of a total rebuild has yet to build that resume. No one would have won the first yr here as Poles corrected the cap by getting rid of all the good players. In his second yr, he went 7-10 and finished 4-3 with two losses that one play changed could have given us wins. Plus according to you we had a bad QB. f you notice bad teams that always stay bad, keep changing coaches every couple of yrs because the owners get to impatient to win, and they always stay losers . In my Bear history , I never seen a complete rebuild except when Jim Finks was here in the eighties. This is what a complete rebuild looks like. It wont be pretty until 2025 when it is almost complete. Now that we have a blue Chip QB, Im going to let 2025 happen before I want to burn it down.
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It works that way in any business . The key is are they interfering in any of the team decisions that Poles makes? Im not even sure Warren is interfering in the day to day decisions and he is in the position of power. If the team fails it is because of Poles actions. Do you think Harbaugh answers to anybody? Of course he does. If you hire smart people you let them win or lose on their own merit. If this all fails it says George hired the wrong person, not because he told Poles to keep Flus as the coach, or trade for Allen, or pay JJ.
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I dont disagree but the 4th game of the third season is not the right time to talk about burning it down. IMO If they win the next 3 games 4-2 will be acceptable for me. Everything you stated could still apply sitting at the bye week with winning the next 3 games. Im on Twitter X all the time and I understand problems but I think it will straighten out. Im just not ready to have a lousy season in my mind just because of what I have seen so far, you're welcome to do so. Some people think the bus already run off the cliff. This place is mild compared to X.
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I dont really disagree with you other than its kind of early to drive off the cliff, just saying 2 months will give us a better picture to discuss who stays and who should leave. You may be right about everything. If we are 4-2 going into the break will you have a different opinion? Or 3-3? 2-4 will definititly have me complaining.
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I dont think George is running anything anymore. We have Warren, then Poles/Cunningham and Flus. So if this regime fails it will be on Warren-Poles not George. Poles came in saying it will take him 4-5 yrs to rebuild this team into a consistant winner, its yr 3. This yr will be the proof of his plan 7-10 or 9-8, 10-7, or 11-6. I cant say its not working in only the 3rd game of the 3rd season and Im Peter Positive, get back to me in 2 months. Yes some things dont look good but what do you think the SB contenders fans are saying in SF 1-2, Dallas 1-2, Cinn 0-3, and Miami 1-2? Because we choose the blue chip QB, I think we need to let the season play out. Typical rookie QBs look like CW right now, Stroud was the outlier.
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In the general sense, overall, Poles has gotten a lot of praise for building this team from one of the worst rosters in the league with a hellish cap situation into where we are today .(The third yr) This is the year which will show if the job he has did turns into sucess. Has he made some bad decisions , yes. No GM bats 1000% , the key here is where we are at in the second half of the season with a rookie QB. He could have did the easy path to victories by keeping Fields (3-0) and trading the #1 pick into another draft haul, filled our weaknesses and have a winning team this yr. He has built a very good defense in three yrs, added talent on offense and could get us to third base but he rolled the dice with a potenial high end QB prospect that is going to have strumbles along the way. The end game is the hitting home runs , not tripples. We are 3 games into the season, 1-2 and were into the last minute of the two losses with the chance to win. The defense has looked good but the offense has 4 flat tires. We have a few weeks to get the tires fiixxed before I set the vehicle on fire. Poles- B+ Flus C- Waldron D QB no grade
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CW is a rookie QB , if he sees 5 or 6 players on the line ,he is suppose to make a line adjustment to pick up the extra pressure, if he doesnt do that, that's not the OCs fault. My point is we dont know where the mistakes are being made, as fas as I'm concerned everyone gets the blame not one person.