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4 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
I heard this a long time ago but cannot pinpoint when. I didn't know what it was but he didn't listen or take coaching from Dalton well.
That is today's culture though, people look at their phones on average every 6 minutes. If it was a problem, that is on the Bears for allowing cell phones.
I had heard some comments about that and I think field(s) might have even implied that. I think it was more a subtle component that sometimes having a vet QB around isn't a good thing. In this case - I'm going to presume some truth to both sides of the equation, I also don't think Field(s) looking at his phone in this scenario is why he didn't end up being good either. For whatever reason he just couldn't make that leap during his time with the Bears -> I don't expet him to with the Steelers but his raw tools are still tantalizing and I do believe even if he can't make a material leap, he can still make modest progress in that area and that is good enough to be a mediocre starting QB in this league.
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5 hours ago, Pixote said:
I'd say Homer and Jones are both in jeopardy. Scott will hopefully prove to be the WR we expected when we were excited about him last preseason as a possible sleeper. Maybe with the new WR room, he can get help reaching his true potential.
I think Scott will surprise us in a good way this year.
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2 hours ago, AZ54 said:
It certainly feels like we're going to add one more decent vet FA. I'd say most likely on the Dline but can't rule out Williams at Center.
They will definitely add another pass rusher - won’t be a great player but it will be someone. My guess is a Ngakoue will be back. They clearly need to upgrade next year cause outside of Sweat the line is pretty meh.
Rushing attack should be solid with Swift, Herbert Johnson but a huge pass to being #1 rushing attack was having Justin Fields. So no - I don’t think this is the NFL’s top rushing defense - solid, yes, but not top5.
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13 minutes ago, adam said:
As long as Williams stays healthy, it's hard for me to see him doing any worse than what Geno Smith did last year, who averaged 241 yds per game, had 20 TDs and 9 INTs. That feels like the floor for Williams. Taking some other recent QBs into account, like Stroud and Love, this seems like Williams most likely ranges for various stats:
Completions: [LOW 310 | AVG 338 | HIGH 375]
Attempts: [LOW 490 | AVG 526 | HIGH 580]
Comp%: [ LOW 62.5% | AVG 64.3% | HIGH 65.2%]
Yards: [LOW 3620 | AVG 3964 | HIGH 4284]
TD: [LOW 20 | AVG 25 | HIGH 32]
INT: [LOW 5 | AVG 8 | HIGH 12]So the high probable numbers would be 338-526, 64.3%, 3,964 yds, 25 TD, 8 INT
If Williams hit that number of passing yards, it would be the 6th best all-time for a rookie QB. 25 TDs would be 5th, only 8 INTs would be 5th best, and 64.3% would be 6th. So hit mean set of numbers put him between 5th and 6th all-time for a rookie. With the upgraded supporting cast, I think he exceeds those numbers in every category. I think he falls in between the average numbers and high numbers for al the stats.
Vegas has him at like 3600 yard's or something as his over under. I also think if you are saying those are the high probability yet those are 6th best all-time that probably says that isn't "High Probability". Do I think he is capable, certainly, I also think there is a large number of really talented #1 overall picks who had their fair share of struggles in their first year, as that adjustment takes time.
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1 hour ago, AZ54 said:
I'm 100% on board with this and it's possible Poles had an agreement with him to re-visit talks when he was healthier. (i.e.don't go anywhere without talking to us). There's no doubt Williams would prefer a longer term deal and most teams likely wanted to give him a 1yr deal or at least less guaranteed money. Maybe this is why he bypassed the center position in the draft. He kept enough cap space to make a deal like this.
Plus I think if you wait until after the draft the signing(s) don't count to the comp pick formula, so I presume there is a wave of free agency we will see take off once the comp impacts are gone. My guess is also the more time you can wait on Connor the better cause you have a better idea of his general health/recovery from the injury.
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3 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:
In looking at the last game, what makes anyone think we'll have a top five defense? I see top half and but not top five.
I agree - I think people are overating a strong finish. The dline has Sweat who came out on fire - but it is still on the mediocre side. DB's look good but are young so can take a step back vs. forward and we literally played so few quality QB's all year. Do I think the D is solid - sure, but this is not a top 5 D, I would argue it might be a Top 10 D.
Note: I am very happy with direction of the team - but I think we have a lot of overhyping potentially going on here. Just like with the team won 7 games but its now destined for 11. We had some win's against really really bad teams and yes we had some tough losses but at same time we benefited from playing teams with hurt QB's, etc (as did teams with us).
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3 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
Wow - I had no idea. I was thinking they were like a d2 school.
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4 hours ago, adam said:
I am always surprised how some of these guys don't get drafted. 10 sacks on a top 25 team with a high RAS. What is not to like?
James Madison is a top 25 team?
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2 hours ago, adam said:
Hard to see the logic there when a punter plays only 5 to 6 plays a game.
I would've went with an Edge like Booker there.
He is a legit weapon. And they jumped back in for a defender in 5th.
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I’m starting to get real excited about him. His character and work ethic is stellar and when you see a Fitzgerald comp thrown out - man if he can be 80 percent of Fitz they got a total stud.
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If they go all offense - I’ll throw out Tennessee running back (Wrigth), his USC teammate (Rice), or Van Pratt as my picks.
If they go defense - I’m hoping the Oregon dlinemen is still on the board.
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8 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
I expect this too, but doubtful it will be a blue chip player, at least until the trade deadline in the middle of the season
I think they are going to have to live with that this year and than next offseason they can address it - whether via free agency, the draft or both. Back to your point - they are focused on building a culture and continuing to develop roster while also putting Caleb in a great spot to develop. I think if all goes right they can make a run at 10 games - but let’s get it right and than add another wave of talent next year (maybe even a trade acquisition).
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6 hours ago, Pixote said:
Allen has never been known for elite speed. Instead, he gains separation by running precise routes. That is why many believe, even at the age of 32, he has many productive years left before retiring. He seems to be a perfect mentor for Rome O.
Well said and I agree - we have two really good vets and both hopefully will help Rome (and Scott) and heck maybe even Velus (cause Velus physical skills are legitimately good).
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1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:
no i understood you. I have seen dozens of examples where he read the defense, made a quick decision and threw the ball like Bagent did in rhythm.
He also has that fast throwing motion, but yes he makes fast decisions successfully a LOT of time. Ive seen at least 50 examples over maybe 3 or 4 games of him doing it. It is in his skill set. He held the ball much longer on other plays where WRs werent open, or he was big play hunting. He never won a game in which he put up fewer than 30 points at USC (last year or both not sure), so obviously they had no defense and he was doing his Brett Favre impression.
Oh an to the protection, he has this Aaron Rodgers thing hwere when a defender breaks through the line, he circles around to redirect the defender back to the blocker he beat. It's pretty cool to watch, and youre like "he looks like Rodgers there"
So often he did have a lot of time to throw by his own making.Rodgers is a really good comp.
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7 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:
Poles has a plan if he doesn't get help in the DL, he will bring in a vet. There will be a round of cuts to choose from. Do not underestimate players on the team getting better. I was curious when he said players are going to have a hard time making this roster. To me that means he likes some backups we aren't thinking about.
I agree - I see him getting another dline or two on one year deals - whether 2nd wave of free agency or post draft cut.
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26 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
exactly right - this draft and next years draft are both aiming at the 2025 season, one where our stud QB isnt a rookie, and where we can fill the final missing pieces including another pass rusher.
The window for us to seriously contend for a superbowl opens in 2025, although I wouldnt put a ceiling on what this team is capable of this year either. But its a PLAN for 2025.This is well said - I would be shocked if they like Van Pratt if they move up - maybe Borom and our 4th to move up a few or a next year 5th or 6th to move up 5-10 spots.
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This is a good pick in terms of BPA. Raw upside but needs some development. I like what they are doing and expect next year we will see a few more defensive selections. I wonder if they go db / safety in round 4 or maybe stick with them and take an interior / center prospect.
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4 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
yeah he doesnt feel like that at all.
I think the negative narratives on high ranking players were really in play this year by teams hoping to create situations where players slide to them.
For example, Williams seems to be nothing like the sullen, selfish player he was painted to be the last couple of months.I think Odunze is a really really good and grounded dude. He is going to work hard, etc. He has good 40 speed and shown a ton of ability to make tight catches and use his body. It really comes down to me - will those strength's overcome his lack of quickness - or is he quick enough to get enough seperation where he can dominate in the pro's or with the margin's shrinking and the hits better does it kind of negate some of his strength's and he ends up more "okay". Barring injury I think no matter what he will be a solid 750-900 yard guy...the question is can he be a 1300 yard type of receiver.
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Hell yeah!!!
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2 hours ago, adam said:
Yeah, now if they can go C, DT, or Edge at #75, I would be happy.
There is a shot they could get one of the better center prospects at 75.
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3 hours ago, Stinger226 said:
There was no bad choice, this tells me , they will keep Allen for only the one year and use that money somewhere else. Poles has to have a plan for an edge rusher. Maybe someone he likes will be available at 75.
They can get a comp pick if Allen leaves.
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3 hours ago, AZ54 said:
I felt the trade back here was good but if they have Odunze rated that highly I’m good with it. Makes Keenan a one year rental unless he wants to stick around on a team friendly deal. I could see him go right back to LA for that.
I was good with a trade back but can’t complain. I think my first prediction months ago was Caleb and Rome. I’m fired up.
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33 minutes ago, AZ54 said:
A week or two ago I asked why Poles hasn't declared Caleb will be the first pick in the draft? This is now the worst kept secret in the NFL especialy after watching his pre-draft press conference when he was talking about Caleb in glowing terms. After reflecting on that a bit I now believe he's just doing this to give that moment to Caleb. Caleb has been very clear this has been one of his goals for a long time. IMO that's a class move by Poles not to steal the spotlight and that moment from him by making the announcement early.
I also think the NFL prefers teams to wait - even though technically the Bears could announce they are selecting him and actually sign him to a contract before the draft.
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31 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:
I just screenshot this off the TV. It supports the OL principle that we like. Top need, center 92% success rate. Sign me up for a trade down and Graham Barton for the win!
Is the above like the last X years worth of 1RP and who hit vs. who didn't by position?
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Williams is either going to bust or be really good. I say that because the stories seem to imply he has that Kobe-esque work ethic. Like he flat out puts in the work when he's out there and has a desire to be great, not good, not merely okay, not above average, but ELITE. That drive is going to rub some the wrong way and it could blow up in his face if he struggles and rubs people wrong way getting mad or whatever -> but channeled right - it could lead to true greatness.