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35 minutes ago, adam said:
Who is taking Dak at $60M APY? He has the biggest contract based on APY by over $5M compared to the next guys which are Love, Burrow, Lawrence, and Allen. His cap hit goes to $74M next year and is $50M this year. That is a big reason why they didn't want to extend Parsons to the biggest non-QB contract in NFL history. So they really had no choice tbh.
The Bears are in a great place with the cap. The two highest players on the team are Moore and Sweat, Moore has an APY of $27.5M, but that is 48th in the NFL. Sweat has a $24.5M APY, good for 58th. They don't have another player in the top 100. Their next guy is Jaylon at $19M APY, 124th in the league. Parsons deal makes him 11th in APY at $46.5M, that is equivalent to Moore+Johnson.
It seems that paying any non-QB a ton of money does not equate to championships. The only guys in the top of the top-25 non-QB contracts are AJ Brown and Chris Jones.
The list is pretty damning:
Parsons, Watt, Chase, Garrett, Hunter, Crosby, Jefferson, Lamb, Bosa, Metcalf, Wilson, Brown, Jones, Gardner, St. Brown, Hill, Stingley, Aiyuk, Hendrickson, McLaurin, Higgins, Slater, Waddle, Hines-Allen, Burns, Wirfs, Sewell, and Trent Williams before DJ Moore. In most cases, teams don't have a choice, but once your QB is off the rookie deal and you start having to pay your top non-QBs top dollar, it makes it really hard to stay competitive.
That is kind of my point - don’t spend cap space and draft capital to acquire on non QBs…it doesn’t make sense and quite frankly when those non QBs come due - be very smart about when in their careers you extend vs parlay into trade that gives you more draft capital and keeps the time young and able to surround your qb (especially when they get paid) with as much talent as possible.
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8 hours ago, Stinger226 said:
This video has a little different take on the Parsons trade. He talks about roster cost and the results of paying big contracts and how it affects teams winning SBs. Its 26 minutes long but has a very interesting take on the trade.
Generally speaking - I agree with this take. Giving up high end draft picks and cap space is not a good strategy - unless it is so solely put you over the top or get a qb. And even the solely to put you on the top is something I struggle with.
As much as Cowboys got ripped - while I think they should have found a team where the first round picks would be better - I didn’t mind the trade. If I were them I would move Dak for some picks too and actually jump start a rebuild.
In general, I think teams could benefit a bit more in NFL from trading guys at max value vs holding on too late and than leveraging cap space for those difference makers and than using it for more late round picks for good players with just a bit left (as they tend to be under valued in terms of draft capital).
It is like DJ Moore - if I could get 2 2nd rounders and cap space for him I probably do it - same with Jaylon. Having that allows you to continue to bring in young, ascending talent while giving you cap space to retain your own and buy guys that fill your void. -
37 minutes ago, AZ54 said:
Exactly. When you know with confidence the piece you to get to the top then you make the big splash. Green Bay IMO was not there with their roster which is why I think this was the wrong move for them. Jerry Jones controls the next 2 drafts.
Both of you said that excellently. I don’t think it was wrong move for Green Bay - love has shown he is a good qb - great, maybe not - but in right situation they can do pretty good.
For Bears this would be wrong move - you got to know you got a good qb first and until than invest the pieces that help enable that.
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8 hours ago, Stinger226 said:
What would it have taken for us to get Parsons?
2 firsts is a no-brainer and being they wanted a DT instead of a DE, it probably would have been Dexter plus another 3rd round pick.
2 1s
1 3rd
Dexter
I would think 2 1sts and Dexter is a much stronger offer than what they got. Bears 1st rounders would like be viewed as more valuable than Packers and Dexter is an emerging player who is much cheaper relative to the player Packers have up who has a pretty high / expensive contract and is trending to wrong side of his prime.
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2-0-1. I just saw highlights since it wasn’t on in my area but look forward to watching later this weekend once I can see the NFL network recording. Sounds like a slow start by Caleb and some lessons to learn - but they also got some points. Two weeks now to get ready for week 1 and hopefully some more film to reinforce good things but just as much allow the staff to reinforce the things Caleb and team need to keep working on!
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1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:
does anyone remember Jackson Powers-Johnson, a 2nd round C from Oregon? The Raiders has moved him to compete at RG, he is being beat out by an UNFA Jordon Meredith . I actually wanted us to take him.
I think a lot of us wanted him at center.
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This is a great move and really happy for Bagent and it’s a smart move by Bagent too. He knows Johnson is legit and if at some point he plays and excels - all of a sudden he’s getting traded for to start all while learning and working with a good coaching staff while securing some real earnings over next few years. And for Bears - they basically have locked in a lot of cap flexibility to be spent on other positions over the next 2 years.
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3 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
Its just rumors. I was asking hypothetically, since the 1st is off the table.
I thought it had been credibly reported, because I heard it from my Dad, but he says it wasnt a news report just something online.
So a whole bunch of nothing here. If he was 26 itd be almost a no brainer. But as it is, i think that would be an even trade, so people could successfully argue either side of it.
You can always make cap room for a superstar, and its not like trading Kmet away for nothing. A top of the league pass rusher with 17 sacks is worth more than Kmet, even as I agree that Kmet has value for us.
But like I siad, either side makes sense, there is no dumb answer to this one.You also have to pay him 35M. If he was 3 year younger - yes - but at his age with the Bears where they are at - not interested.
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1 hour ago, jason said:
What I liked the most from the highlights, because I didn’t watch the game, is how open receivers were.
In years past, there were numerous times where an opponent was wide open. I thought, “How the hell does that happen to us every game, but our receivers are never open like that?”
Well, now it has happened. And not just once. Multiple times. That’s something we simply haven’t seen much in the past 40 years or go. The last time I remember seeing that was with Crowton before everyone figured him out.
cautiously optimistic, but that’s a very good sign.
I was driving home today and randomly was thinking the same thing - was nice to see guys legitimately open where every pass doesn’t have to be absolutely perfect. You got to have those tight window throws and ability to throw guys open - but it also helps when you have throws and guys open and various levels because the scheme and talent allow them to get open.
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Burden looks like a dude - loved seeing how physical he blocked too!
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3 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
GREAT first drive, and while I wasnt only looking at him, Jones seemed to be very strong that set. Nice.
Caleb was so decisive and accurate that drive. 2nd drive was good too - just a bummer that Rome dropped that pass. Nice game with exception of Smith looking like he suffered a season ending injury. Hoping somehow it isn’t as serious as it looked.
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Just now, DABEARSDABOMB said:
Agree - I also think the comments on Wright are to send a message and try to get him to reach elite talent level. He is a good to ok RT and has shown it - but he hasn’t been great despite having the tools. I think he got comfy with the softness in standards from previous regime and than he showed up taking things for granted. It isn’t that he has been bad at camp - it’s that the oline coach thinks he can be great and expects that - and not just some of the time - all of the time. The great ots are great because they play with that high level consistency ALL the time.
The inverse with that - on the LT side - I think at bet they are seeing mediocre play at this point - and at times the mediocre slides to bad. I think they are also sending a message here - but it is different than the Wright message. They are trying to see who can raise the floor - for a lack of a better term - and also I think trying to push and rebuild Jones to try and find a bar that is at another level than he previously played at while also trying to coach up depth and see how much they can push Trapillo to see where he is…but Jones is the only one of the current 3 with the pure tools you want at LT. But having been hurt - he hasn’t been able to put on the strength they need him to do and that will take time. Its pretty clear he will ultimately be the starter - but I think they are setting a bar to make ish him to put in all the work and than do same thing in between games etc. It’s clear technique is being emphasized heavily too.
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29 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:
Play action is the number one way to slow a pass rush. The defenders can't go until they determine the runner doesn't have the ball. It also allows the offensive lineman to initiate immediate contact. It's where Goff made his money last year. It also plays to the strengths of the right side and our 12 personnel mismatch. Don't get me started if we develop a read option package. That would an immediate advantage, as it was not something Goff could do.
Agree - I also think the comments on Wright are to send a message and try to get him to reach elite talent level. He is a good to ok RT and has shown it - but he hasn’t been great despite having the tools. I think he got comfy with the softness in standards from previous regime and than he showed up taking things for granted. It isn’t that he has been bad at camp - it’s that the oline coach thinks he can be great and expects that - and not just some of the time - all of the time. The great ots are great because they play with that high level consistency ALL the time.
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I think the biggest worry I have is if Wright ends up being mediocre. Jones was a late pick - Wright was a high pick.
Let’s see these tackles step up. I also want to see what sort of dude Trapillo can be on right side - pretty clear he isn’t there yet on left side and the real risk is that might always be the case.
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8 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
Should have taken Simmons, killing it at KC. Afraid bc of his injury but the guy has feet.
I was a big Simmons fan.
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The downfall is it doesn’t sound like Wright is shining either.
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The real wild card is at some point does Wright flip to LT and we see Trapillo at RT.
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2 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
The interview was on 670 the score. Said sometimes guys need to feel the pressure to realize their potential. Its just a wakeup call to get him to be his best.
He also said Jones played excellent on Friday - his technique was great etc and than he was not that same player on Sunday - again - pushing buttons to drive a higher standard. Love it!
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4 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
absolutely on all of this. and i do think he was hiding the offense from public scrutiny last week. I get it. Hes feeding them "with a firehose" and they are int he struggling phase, thats cool. And we will see them this weekend, so cool.
Im starting to think that training camp for this offense is gonna stretch into the regular season. We will probably need some patience.I think we should expect offensive growing pains. We could actually start 0-4 given the difficult schedule - in general we have a real tough schedule.
Winning that Viking game is going to be pretty key cause schedule gets real tough real fast. But reality is - I want to see progress every quarter and a lot of flashes of awesomeness during 2nd half of the season and plenty of glimpses towards it in first half.
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I just love the standard and tone this staff is pushing. They are an unforgiving coaching staff and really focused on raising the standard across the board - which was critical as Halas Hall has been soft and with too low of a standard for too long.
This whole coaching staff seems to get it and they are keeping the bar high and forcing players to meet them at the high bar vs bringing the bar down to make the players feel good.
The comments our Oline coach made today - very clear it is to push Wright to step it up and expect more. They are direct and clear. Same with Jones, Trapilo and others.
On offense - Johnson clearly didn’t think his offense, including Caleb were ready to play last week - he’s sending a message that they need to get there and raise the standard. Put pressure on and keep pushing them higher.
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32 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
It was great to see our depth go against higher level guys, and it gives more context to Booker's sacks too. Hopefully that can project to the regular season.
Sewell and Monangai - yup. Sewell is our 3rd LB for when we need it, and good depth. Monangai sure does run hard - love those style of runners. There was one play, when Trapilo was in the there where Monangai chipped the DE that Trapilo had, and Monanagai hit him so hard you could hear the crack on the broadcast. Nice.
Your point about special teams is a real issue. It needs to be much better. And youre right they have some time to get that fixed. Usually its mostly about desire and tackling, and you can coach that and lean on it.
Yeah Braxton looks like a real liability out there, and to be honest Triplo didnt exactly take the job with any confidence either. They are both not up to par, and I hope Trapilo can grow fast. He did look better after a minute out there, but we were giving him help and rolling away from his side too. He really has to grow fast.
No matter how good our offense is, it's going nowhere if the LT is sieve. It's a real issue. I'm not hitting alarm bells yet, but it needs to be fixed for sure. The best answer would be if Trapilo develops quickly under fire and becomes trustworthy.Regarding special teams - I need to see the stats - but my eye test said Taylor’s punts were awful with no hang time in the first half. Haven’t watched 2nd half.
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3 minutes ago, AZ54 said:
It’s great to see him pushing players. However there just aren’t that many jobs up for grabs among our starters. LT and CB2. There’s a ton of competition for the backup roles almost everywhere on our roster.
We have the LB, battle for 3rd vs 4th wideout, Lt, 2nd corner plus depth. But I think it is more the message and tone but also the way he reinforces the standard.
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I saw a quote that BJ said starting jobs and positions are going to be heavily weighted by these upcoming joint practice. Way he said it kind of just continues with how he sets the tone that practice matters and details matters and message he sent on an off day was - you better show up with your best against Miami cause I’m making decisions on this stuff.
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4 hours ago, Stinger226 said:
The most physical day of practice all year. On a downer note, Kmet left with an injury and he was visable upset, so it may not be minor. 4 fights broke out and Brad Briggs said this is the most physical practice he has seen since Lovie took over as coach.
This was not the type of practice they should do all the time - but you also have to practice with real intensity and balance and I love the tone they are trying to set. And Biggs said since lovie all of the other major bear outlets said most physical and intense they had ever seen. Any way you slice it - this is a very different coaching staff and tone that is being taken. It also sounds like it was a pretty damn good practice with flash plays by offense and defense!
Caleb tied for 11th in MVP Odds
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Makes no sense for him to be this high with what we have seen - doesn’t mean his future isn’t bright though - but he has a lot on his list of things to really develop and to start stacking together.