DABEARSDABOMB
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My pick:
Banks
Stewart
Mykel Williams
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Quite frankly I’d be fully game with Stewart. Production not quite there but we have a good coaching staff and his tools are ELITE.
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5 hours ago, dawhizz said:
He is the defensive player I’m taking if they want a linemen. He played hurt this year and still was good…his tools are great though. But what he showed grinding through hurt for his team was impressive.
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9 hours ago, Stinger226 said:
That was DABEARSDABOMB that said that. I don't think that at all.
Wait what did I say? I’ve said Jeanty is my pick if Bears don’t have a high grade on a LT, DE, DB or a good trade down offer when they pick at 10.
Jeanty is a blue chip talent and a true difference maker and the Bears flat out need more of those in general.
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34 minutes ago, AZ54 said:
Jeanty is not the best pass catcher among RBs. I think his drop % is somewhere around 10%. So yes, even with Jeanty there will be someone else sharing the load.
Any rb will have a sharing of load. You have to. What you don’t want with a pick this high is a one dimensional back, imo.
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3 hours ago, dawhizz said:
Good- fair price for an above average slot corner whose best years are still ahead of him. Plus it says something to rest of club for rewarding internal guys who are doing the right thing.
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23 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
I think KJ is a 3 down back. He's not the speediest, but he is fast enough to break away. He hits the holes quick, doesnt dance around, and is always moving forward. He's also got a super clean lateral shift, that leaves unblocked defenders with nothing but air, and it doesnt seem to slow his forward progress down when he makes those cuts. That's really impressive.
I guess my biggest concern with KJ is that on all his big runs (and there are plenty of them) the blocking all looks really clean. Iowa did a great job up front, and so Iw ish there was more film on him when the blocking fails and he still makes something of it.I agree with you regarding him as a 3 down block and I do think him and Swift would be a real nice pair - both are diverse which means defenses will have a hard time knowing what is coming / defending what they bring.
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58 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
Yeah, KJ is great!
I also think the idea that a HB will be a home run hitter isn't necessary. The purpose of a HB is to move the chains, and force the defense to come down into the box, influence safeties away from coverage, and open up play action passes.
Id take 5 15 yard carries in a game over one 75 yard carry.
And KJ DOES break runs all the time. It's OK if he gets chased down.Henderson, OSU backs or Jeanty I’m in on. Hampton too - but my guess is Hampton is gone before the Bears pick in 2nd round.
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57 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
Yeah, KJ is great!
I also think the idea that a HB will be a home run hitter isn't necessary. The purpose of a HB is to move the chains, and force the defense to come down into the box, influence safeties away from coverage, and open up play action passes.
Id take 5 15 yard carries in a game over one 75 yard carry.
And KJ DOES break runs all the time. It's OK if he gets chased down.I think they want a 3 down type or back. Doesn’t mean they won’t use Swift and Johnson but they don’t want a niche guy in this draft imo. They either get a speed guy who is a 3 down guy or a power back who can still catch.
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15 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
I think we are all overlooking Kaleb Johnson. He's my #2 back after Jeanty, and I think we can get him in the 2nd round.
I think it goes
10 Banks
39 Kaleb Johnson
41 BPA of DL, S, WR or TEI like Kaleb as well. I’m a Hawkeye fan and he was excellent. His 40 was a bit slow but he is a good back and he played faster than the 40.
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9 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
I can make a case that Jeanty is far above the other HBs in this draft, or most drafts. That doesnt necessarily mean that we should take him at 10 though - thats a different question, and involves other players, our needs etc.
But Jeanty isnt too small, there are other backs in the league that are similarly sized and doing well.
I would just say that rather than looking at numbers, watch his tape. He is shifty as hell, and can switch holes in an instant. He's elusive AND punishing, and it's very hard to get him down. Whoever gets him will get a real star at HB. If it's us, I will be excited, but of course I think we should be disciplined and take the LT instead.This - I’d expand and say a stud lt, de or cb (if they have a high grade on one of the two guys projected top 15).
But ultimately - Jeanty looks like the real deal to me and he has a shot at being a top 5 in the league back. That’s a game changer and we need some of those so I totally get it if they go that way.
I also like the OSU backs a ton - Henderson being my preference.
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On 4/11/2025 at 12:12 PM, lemonej said:
10. Kelvin Banks Jr OT Texas- I think there needs to be competition for both Jone and Kiran
39. Quinshon Judkins Ohio St, RB- Swift is not an every down back and Johnson can't avoid concussions with his running style. This prospect is a tough inside runner and a beast in pass pro.
41. Mike Green Edge-Sacks are scarce and the Bears need serious competition at this position, his stats in college are impressive.
72.. Elijah Arroyo TE Miami I have watched this player practice at the Senior Bowl and he was a matchup nightmare. A toy for Ben Johnson.
148. Malachi Moore S Miami- an aging Byard and a concussed Brisker tells me the Bears need depth at the position
233.Jimmy Horn Jr WR Slot Colo -unless DJ Moore Or Odunze is going inside, this is competition for Tyler Scott
240. Eric Gregory DL3T Ark - his listed size and weight say 1 T so a student for both Billing and Garrett
This is my first swing at a mock this offseason and I will probably do 1 more before the draft. I'm a Dinosaur, so I actually use Big boards and my actually watching the players play during their season as my reference.
Awesome draft
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20 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
If the Bears believe he is the type of RB that would elevate the offense, it is possible. I would prefer taking the best LT, DT, or DE myself, but there is chatter that the Bears really like Jeantry.
If Jeanty is there at 10, I can live with it, as long as they didn't have a high grade on an OT or Dline or DB. Moving up for him - good grief. I would be more comfortable moving around / down with Rnd 1 and than using some of that leverage to move around in Day 2 (plus having some extra day 2 picks). That presumes they have high grades on the next set of backs (ie. both OSU backs, the Iowa back, I'm going to exclude Hampton since it seems like he is going to go in Round 1).
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Nate Tice on Hoge and Jahns was a good listen - spent a lot of time on oline candidates. Mike also has had some good content recently. Much of it aligns to what a few of you have been saying about Banks being a better LT candidate than Campbell - but a lot of love for Membou.
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I think one of the big misses might be Connelly here. A lot of helium with him - stick to him or Simmons are best LT prospects in draft - but with risk. If Bears want one of them - they can move down but given premium on tackle I can see them going earlier than expected.
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Thought it was interesting to see where the books have the draft odds starting with the highest names tied to the Bears and than on down.
NFL Draft position Over/Unders: Mason Graham (5.5)
Will Campbell (5.5)
Armand Membou (6.5)
Sanders (8.5)
Jalon Walker (8.5)
Ashton Jeanty (9.5)
Tyler Warren (9.5)
Will Johnson (11.5)
Mikel Williams (15.5)
JihadCampbell (15.5)
Tetairoa McMillan (17.5)
Matthew Golden (17.5)
Mike Green (17.5)
Jayden Barron (18.5)
Banks Jr. (18.5)
Colston Loveland (19.5)
Omarion Hampton (19.5)
Jaxson Dart (24.5)
Emeka Egbuka (29.5)
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33 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:
This is an utterly ridiculous statement. Jeanty is a problem, just as Saquan Barkley. When a back is so good you have to gameplan against every play, it's far more valuable than platoon guys. It's literally the opposite of what makes sense.
Yeah I agree. If you have a total stud it is harder because they can do it all. It is when they are one dimensional that it makes it easier on the D. I do agree you don’t want to have just one back - but having a top 5 running back is a real good thing and helps the offense, defense, oline and qb. I say it helps defense because time of possession and rest that comes from a back who can control the clock helps the defense too.
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35 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:
Something that will affect the draft that people don't talk about is what players on the team that they view valuable that we think they need to draft a backup?
The Braxton/ Kiran debate is an example. If they think they have the position covered, it will eliminate a early OL pick at 10 . If they think it's a problem, it could be at 10.
Personally I think we take an OL in the second round that they don't think needs to start his first year. Conerly could fill that spot at 41.
I think Conerly or Simmons are high probability picks in RD 2 and I could even see them moving up.
Right now I would want nothing more than a qb to be there at 10 that drives a team wanting to trade up - or some other position - but it takes 2 to tango.
I think no obvious blue chipper will be there at 10 - so I’d rather move down and than get a 2 for 1 approach. Address OT, RB, DL, TE and Wideout with 4 being in first two rounds depending on what you can swing in trade down.
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Im going to say if Jeanty and Campbell are gone - it will be a TE or Db. Im going to guess they take Will Johnson at 10.
This assumes Jeanty, Graham and Campbell are gone. I think they like Simmons most if they go LT and it isn’t Campbell.
That is my hoping they go high end DB prospect (Johnson and Johnson sounds like a great duo) vs the TE spect albeit it seems like a lot of momentum headed toward the PSU TE.
If it were a year ago and it was Brockers id say yes - but I don’t think Warren is Brockers.
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One bummer is the coaches haven’t really gotten to work with the players much. Do they get a mini camp before draft where they can at least put them through some agilities or is first time coaches get to really do anything right after draft when you have rookie mini camp and than some of the full mini camps / Otas leading up until training camp.
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5 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
I dont understand the faith in Braxton Jones. If you watch the tape from last year, he can be bull rushed into the QB on any down the defense chooses.
LT is our biggest hole, and RB is #2.Johnson was quoted this week on Jones. Overall pretty positive quotes - but mentioned they want him to add some muscle so he can set his anchor better - but raved about his athleticism at tackle.
Could be smoke - but you could hear the energy when he talked about Jones length and athleticism. He also said pass blocking is number one out of an LT.
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38 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
Since Thuney has not been extended yet and Poles pattern is trading a 4th for a high priced vet and letting them walk (Keenan Allen), Banks can be the next all-pro guard if he doesn't excel at LT.
The Bears need to end the pattern of trading picks for talent. By year 3, Kiran might be a good LT or they draft high again until they get a guy to excel and hold that spot for 8-10 years.
I do think the draft them because you see all pro upside at LT but also high end guard upside can get me comfortable. But if they are maybe a Top 7-12 guy at best at LT while they project as a really good guard, I might opt a different direction. In the long run though - I won't argue at all with taking a LT. I am fully aligned to the power of the Oline and all for investing in it.
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Very good move.
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10 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:
Im fine with Braxton and Kiran for another season vs reaching given what else they did. Just my two cents. I think Jones is pretty decent - especially if talent around him is better. He isn’t great but he is middle of the road and still very young and Kiran has all the measurable.
And by the way - I want a stud LT more than anything - it might have to be next year vs this year though.
#10 Mock Draft Selection
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https://mcshay-report.beehiiv.com/p/how-to-build-through-the-trenches-in-the-2025-nfl-draft-87f29cafaf3f5b51
Thought this was pretty good by Tod Mcshay. Focused on the oline and interior dline.
Real nice things said about a few of our favorites - Banks, Simmons and Minny LT all had good things said.
Simmons concerns around work ethic mentioned - basically most talent LT, but injury issues and some work ethic stuff cited.