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2 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
I think this is just what the PFF draft simulator says. A lot of mock drafts have Banks going before we even pick.
I think he is the #1 OT in the draft, and the only three I want are Banks, Ersery or Conerly.
The only site that has the players ranked close to right in my view is NFLDraftBuzz. They mock draft simulator is crazy though, Travis Hunter, who they have correctly ranked at #1, falls past 10 ll the time. So Im not saying the simulator is great, but the overall rankings are good and are in line with what Ive seen on film. And they have Banks as the highest rated OT, at #7 overall.
Membou is all smoke and mirrors, and Campbell has some serious red flags in my view, but draftbuzz has Campbell at #9 and Membou at #11 if that helps you to trust them. I wouldnt touch Membou or Campbell as a LT at all.Membou is similar to Darnell Wright. He is going to be a very good RT for a long time - but won’t be an LT.
Most of the higher ranked LTs all profile more as guards quite frankly and anyone that picks them is going to first see if they can stick at LT before shifting them.
Simmons is about only one I’ve seen regularly as a true LT but obviously has the injury concerns and isn’t expected to go top 10.
Campbell is by far the consensus #1 tackle prospect from the more regarded analyst. Whether they are right or not - who knows - but it’s these random outlets who have some of the other guys ahead of him. He was consensus top tackle all season. I’d be shocked if he is on board at 10 and I expect another tackle is also gone before Bears pick - whether Banks or Membou.
Id argue in many drafts they would all be in the 15-30 range as all the tackles have more material flaws than usual.
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48 minutes ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:
Banks started off as the top LT, and LT is a premiere position that many GMs consider over positions like RB, TE, LB.
After his combine measurements, his value jumped with his extra inch in height. His athletic ability and technique project him as a good fit for zone systems, which would fit the Bears. His skills project him as a probowl caliber player at G or T. Good chance he is not there at 10 and Campbell also could be off the board.
With LT, they have to compare to Braxton and Kiran. Is Banks or the guys we have a talent for 4 years or 8-10?
Campbell was the top LT all season. He did lose some shine late in the season and over the combine. Reality is this is a draft where there may not be any real good LT prospect…which in my mind means, don’t reach for a need.
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My opinion is there are about 5-7 picks worthy of being selected in the top 15 in this draft. - but that there are probably 30-40 guys who would be 20-40 round picks…
Bottom line there might not be a guy in this draft on the oline who would be in the top 15 in a good year. I’d probably say same for dline outside of Carter.
But at oline and dline I think the difference between the 2nd guy and the 6th guy is minimal and all would be back end first rounders.
This is the reason why if at 10 you have Warren or Jeanty there and you think they are blue chip talent in a draft with 5-6 blue chip guys you take them and call it a day. Now if you can trade down great - but you need a buyer so unless someone is jumping for a qb I don’t see anyone paying much to Move up 5-10 spots with the Bears. I could see someone moving from say 10 to 5 if it allows them to get one of the few consensus blue chippers.
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3 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
OK so here's some awesome draft BS...
Former Jets GM Mike Tannenbaum, who wasnt especially good at being a GM, predicts that if Colorado QB Shadeur Sanders slides out of the top 5, he'd be targeted as a trade up to pick 10.
In a recent mock, he has the Steelers trading up with us like this:
Chicago gives
1st round Pick (10) [369 Hill pts]
5th round pick (148) [10 Hill pts]
Pittsburgh gives
1st round pick (21) [261 Hill pts]
3rd round pick (83) [52 Hill pts]
4th round pick (123) [23 Hill pts]
2026 1st round pick [100 ish pts]
In this draft especially, I'd do that in a heartbeat. 2 firsts next year?! I doubt Pittsburgh would pay that much. Like I said its a bunch of BS, be we have nothing better to talk about, and the trade chart says: Chicago 379 for Pittsburgh 433 or a difference of 54 pts which = a mid round 3rd
Maybe the value works out if youre getting a good QB, but who here wouldnt take that deal in a second? Probably why it would never happen.
But if it did, that'd be amazing.
This would be incredible.
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To be clear if I did my next 2 picks would be in the trenches. I still think they need to find another we or te st some point in draft too.
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Biggs article was first one that got me a little bit to I’d be okay taking Jeanty. LT vibes at RB is worth it at 10 - especially if you don’t think there is a blue chip LT or Dlinemen there.
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6 hours ago, adam said:
Good depth piece and another STer. The ST unit is going to be a top 10 unit this year.
He had a 150 qb rating against him in 24 - so he was an awful corner in 24.
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1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:
Didn't know where to put this.
I heard Jarrett, Dexter, Sweat, and Booker are working out together in Florida with a pass rush specialist.( Didn't see his name mentioned.) Clearly Jarrett had to have a lead role in putting this together.
I thought this shows a leadership position getting players together.
I also heard Olin Kreutz saying he was working with Kiran A at his gym.
These are the type of commitments that is going make this team jell.
Dennis Allen organized it but I’m sure a vet or two are leading it.
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1 hour ago, Mongo3451 said:
I like Campbell over Banks. Campbell started three years and gave up four sacks. I don't believe there is a truly good left tackle in this draft. I'm starting to think we draft EDGE at 10, with a chance of Jeanty/Warren...
Myles Williams at 10 FTW
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5 minutes ago, AZ54 said:
Really DBDB which returner were you Looking to get?
I feel like this is one where they could have drafted or got another guy who could fit in the receiver room - ie Rondale Moore.
I don’t mind him as a returner and I should caveat he is far better than Carter who was super meh.
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9 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:
I still think if there was a stud LT we would take him at #10. It's our only real hole. But my personal opinion is that none of the OTs in this draft are going to be great. And if the Bears have a guy they think will be great, then it's almost sure they will take that guy. But if they see them the way I see them, then they could pretty much take any position other than QB
But, dawhizz, .your point that narratives die hard on the pens of sportwriters is absolutely true. Once a story gets into the echo chamber, it bounces around even after new information should have modified it. But it doesnt. Youre absolutely right.This I think is very true.
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Trash signing if you ask me.
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In my ideal world - I could draft Mykel, Simmons and Treveyon Henderson with my first 3 picks. Mykel being a trade down and add grab and Simmons being someone we move back into back half of round 1 for (using some of the capital from our original trade down).
Henderson is the back I’m leaning too - he’s got speed and good receiving skills out of backfield - plus still plenty of mileage left.
I think all 3 of those picks have legit blue chip tools - all have some level of risk as well.
Note: Bears are perfect for Simmons. Jones and Kiran can push each other while Simmons eases in - Kiran can always kick into guard as I recall some teams liked him there as well.
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20 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said:
He’s 20 so I think question is whether it is maturity or not. But haven’t heard any major knocks. Physical specimen who should be a 3 down end. Very good athlete and he is massive. Great fit for Allen’s scheme. 30 percent of his tackles were for a loss.
The other thing about Williams - he got hurt his first game last year and played basically the entire season on one healthy leg. Could have not played but he gritted through it and still played well. Tells me he has grit, toughness and character.
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1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:
Another Pickens that appears out the door for us may end up staying. I heard he did the same body regiment that Dexter did but with the injuries affecting him showed nothing last year. If healthy he may very taking a leap forward this year.
I think because of the bad year, we look down on all our rostered players coming back. I think we get a few surprises on people playing well that we wrote off.
Pickens, Scott, Booker, Cris Williams. A few of these are going to stick and play well. Just don't know which ones it will be.
I don't understand why we brought back Kramer while we count on Stromberg as our back up center. Maybe until Stromberg proves he can play healthy the back up backup plan.
I presume Kramer is well liked and works hard and thus they don’t mind him around for practices etc. they also need depth still and Stromberg has to earn it.
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55 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
honestly, we could draft ANY position at 10 and I wouldnt be shocked (other than QB) we really are in a BPA position.
And McMIllan is widely mocked to likely go before we pick anyway.After his combine I think he jumped into top 10. Good thing since this isn’t a position of need. Best thing would be if a wr, db and 2 qbs go before us. Better yet if someone likes Dart a lot and wants to move up to get him (honestly if a team like Giants passed on qb but offered a 2nd and future 1st I might just take it if I were Poles).
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I agree - that would be an outstanding draft..even if safety is unexpected at 20 I could get on board and love where rest of the draft went.
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6 minutes ago, AZ54 said:
Yes
He’s 20 so I think question is whether it is maturity or not. But haven’t heard any major knocks. Physical specimen who should be a 3 down end. Very good athlete and he is massive. Great fit for Allen’s scheme. 30 percent of his tackles were for a loss.
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10 minutes ago, AZ54 said:
He appears to be lazy on some plays. Or maybe going through the motions is a better description. I wonder what happens when he has $20 million to spend?
Are you referring to Mykel?
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1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:
No matter who you draft at RB, Johnson is going to share the position. Atlanta drafted Robinson high and he hasn't been a different maker as far as wins. We aren't in the timeline to add a load back, to many other weaknesses right now.
Johnson has had two years and flashed zilch. New regime so that could change but he is very pedestrian.
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And as importantly I have zero interest in a RB at 10. Zero.
The Boston College DE had a ton of sacks and on field production as well which I like. But Mykel Williams tools are elite - he is young, production not quite there but I think he has Chandler Jones upside.
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38 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
fair enough - I wasnt looking to disagree, just wondering why. After watching tape I totally soured on Campbell, and Banks looked better to me. ANd like you, Im looking for more data, which is why I asked
Simmons is the one I actually like the most but obviously coming back from injury. Reality is I can get on board with anyone they think will stick at LT and be good. Don’t want to take a guard prospect in round 1 given the other moves they made.
Missouri tackle has very good athleticism if they think he can grade out at LT as well.
Would also be fine with Mason Graham at 10 but can’t see him there.
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41 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:
no love for Kelvin Banks Jr?
I haven’t watched the tape - so my opinion is purely based on some oline scouts I tend to like who seem to question his ability to stick at LT. I don’t see that same question with Campbell.
But being clear - I still have homework to do and could change my mind.
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Myles Williams or Cambell are who I really want at 10. If I can’t get one of them - I’m moving down for Simmons.
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I am now fully convinced if Jeanty is there they take him. Warren maybe - but I could see them liking one of the dlinemen more.
At this point I expect one of the 2Nd rounders to be oline vs a 1st rounder.