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Fairly certain none of them will step-up.

I agree - There is reason to be cautiously excited about Roberson.

I would be really annoyed if we gave up even more future draft picks.

One of which is likely a draft pick (probably one of our earlier picks). I'd like to move down a bit and target a couple wideouts, some DB's, some olinemen. If a TE were to fall, that would be great too.

THis would be a nice move. I remember wanting him a couple years ago.

Floyd is very underappreciated as he's a very good all around LB. Just not a sack machine. Mingus isn't that, but he's a good special teams player who maybe in the right scheme can be a solid depth move.

Right now I still think Mitch is the answer. The Bears brought Foles in because if Mitch doesn't take steps forward and fast, they can pivot pretty quickly to a guy who might just be a really good system fit. And if Mitch does take off...Foles is just a great dude to have around. Its kind of a win / win move (other than fact I don't think we needed to give up the pick...but it sounds like other teams were offering at least a 5th rounder).

Newton was never healthy. With a whole off-season, someone might get an incredible steal. If he's healthy, he's worth his weight in gold. IF he isn't healthy, oh well. No QB who changed teams this off-season has more upside than Cam (and that includes Brady, imo). I say that because Cam is still young enough that you wouldn't be shocked to see the former MVP regain his footing and be a well above average QB for a few years. On Brady's case, his best years are definitely behind him...that not to say he isn't solid, but he's getting paid more for past success than future success, imo (and this is coming from a huge Brady fan).

Yeah - I don't think Bars was really healthy enough / physically strong enough (given his rehab) to be a day 1 starter.

The good news is that is basically $16M that can be dumped and applied to some real players a year from now (not quite 16M but I don't think there is a ton of dead money on either player after this year).

IF Burton is healthy, he's by far their best tight end. Bears have massive hole at TE and had to kind of make this move when the TE market was full of crap. They will need to address via draft, but could pass and just rely on who they have now. Not great, but last years TEs were the worst in the history of the NFL.

Wasn't Prince / Gabriel cut (so no comp pick for them). I think I read where we are projected for 2-3 comp picks (based upon Kwit, Nick Williams, KPL, HHCD). Don't think we get jack for Floyd/Prince/Gabriel. Floyd is the one that hurts.

The way Pace trades picks...we'll probably trade up our entire draft for 1 pick. Nothing pisses me off more about Pace than his inability to build up draft capital. Dude consistently mortgages the future and I just don't like it. I do like the fact that he has balls, that I'll give him, but he could benefit from building a surplus and understanding when and where it makes sense to be aggressive (in buying) but also when it makes sense to sell (i.e., we could have sold Floyd and gotten something for him at the deadline). And for everyone that calls Floyd a bust...dude is a very good LB, he just doesn't get the sacks everyone expected. He'll start for a long time in this league.

I didn't like the Graham signing and don't mind Foles (as competition). I would have preferred Mariotta, but at least Bears aren't totally dependent on Mitch. If he's bad, they can pivot to a QB who is at least solid and can show us whether we have something or not. Has to help Nagy too...knowing if he needs to, he can pivot to someone who can (hopefully) show everyone that he's a legit coach and this team can do something with the right QB. Defense should be very good and the Quinn move was risky but should really help Mack. Will be interesting to see what they can do at safety and on the oline. In an ideal world, I'd have rather applied the Foles money to Girley (short-term) and invested in some oline help. Than get a different vet QB (maybe a RG III).

I know reports aren't out, but it seems like the Bears paid him at least a few million, which has to mean they think there is a pretty good chance they think he can play at the nickel spot (worse case) and maybe develop in to more. Seems to have the fast twitch skills and reaction time to make plays at the DB position. Late developing player, but with what Bears committed, I expect him to get every chance to compete. DO I think he is a day 1 starter...absolutely not, but he certainly helps boost up the depth chart. Normally I would down play, but he seems like one of those every few year CFL - NFL UFA's who most scouts seem to think will transition (doesn't mean they will).

Adam is just messing with you...but that was a hillarious post. Cohen @ center....loved the rationale

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Wow - Now this I like. This little move makes me feel better about things. Nice nice move.

There is absolutely nothing about this guy that excites me. Nothing. I will caveat there are reasons for him struggling in Cincy I am sure, but still, this guy had one of the worst offenses in the league during his 2 seasons as OC in Cincy. We could have had Sherman, Nagy just had to give up playcalling. We can only hope Nagy is smarter than we think, but in general, this screams of a HC being in over his head and not being able to delegate out more. Man my comfort would have been so much higher if they went with Caldwell (who is a proven OC) or Sherman. I could have even gotten beyond a total unknown in Kafka on the sake he could be great. Hopefully he is actually amazing, but man, nothing inspiring about this move. I will say he did get a lot of out of some of his random QB's at different points along the way (if there was one positive to look at). Fact that he actually called plays at the NFL level is also nice (vs. Helfrich).

I think Watson is the most overrated of the group. Mahomes is a total stud and no denying how generational his talent and game is. Watson has more ups than Mitch, but his downs are pretty bad. Watson was clearly uncomfortable a huge chunk of yesterdays game and it showed. Too in between on running vs. passing and a ton of inaccurate balls. That said, he's still a better QB than Mitch, just not as great as most fans on this board / general Chicago Bear fans think he is.

The Bills can also run the football. Packers were daring the Bears to run and the Bears still couldn't do anything. The Packers had DB's everywhere and Mitch still threw for 300+, albeit, didn't execute well enough in the red zone and had the costly turnover (and could have had another). Either way, Mitch didn't play his best game, but far from as bad as he was earlier in the year.

This is going to be a hard game. Dallas pass rush is great, they have a highly ranked offense and defense, and from a pass defense perspective, only 4 QB's have gone for over 250 yards against them and one of them did it in garbage time. Just 2 QB's have gone for over 300 yards. I get that you are implying we are getting the Cowboys coming off a loss...but they are going to be fired up after a couple tough games and advanced stats are still very much in their favor (to the point we would kind of need them to self destruct to win the game, imo). I say that because I haven't seen this team put anything remotely close to a complete and clean game together all season. Part of that starts with the fact that WE CAN"T RUN THE FOOTBALL and thus we make everything harder.

I also think Eddy is young and has real skill. I could see him become an above average kicker in the league. At this point, I am of the patient approach, continue to have competition, and see if he can grow into the role.

Wait...how is Vineterri not the worst in the league?