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Bears not that far off.

Playoff games so far: A bunch of teams didn't even show up. Detroit wins on a non-call DPI. GB put up 48 on DAL in DAL, while the Bears allowed 17 in a crappy game. Bears beat DET once, should've beaten them twice, DET wins playoff game. If that same CLE team played the Bears a few weeks back, the Bears win by 20+ as well. Curious to see what the games look like today, snow in BUF and PHI @ TB.

There are about 40 coaches I would trade for Eberflus right now.

Pretty wild, both in their first playoff games: Love 16-21, 272 yds, 3 TD, 0 INT, 157.2 QB Rating Stroud 16-21, 274 yds, 3 TD, 0 INT, 157.2 QB Rating

GB just put on a clinic in Dallas. Coaching matters, scheme matters. There were so many wide open receivers, some had 16+ yards of separation from the nearest defender, but this was all Jordan Love's doing:

Stroud is legit, I am just saying the Bears offensive roster is not there yet. If they draft a QB at #1, he would not be going into the same situation as Stroud, arguably worse. With only the #9 pick and no 2nd rounder, the Bears would be able to potentially address WR2 and C in the draft, but the rest of the holes would have to be filled via FA.

People are now comparing Stroud's situation to what a rookie would have with the Bears this year. Just to compare, his WR4 (Robert Woods) would've been the Bears WR2. Their WR5 had the same stats as our WR3. Their TE2 had double the yards than Tonyan. Based on production, the combined teams would look like this: Moore, Collins, Dell, Brown, Woods, Mooney, Scott, Metchie, Hutchinson. The Bears need to add WR2, WR3, and WR4 and TE2 to be comparable to HOU's offense.

My assumption is they are promoting Phil Snow to that position.

I was assuming it was going to be Phil Snow who came in as just an advisor.

Everything is speculation until it becomes fact. I am just saying Greg actually talked to Cliff regularly and I think he was his "source" for all his info because he has been going off on Twitter every since this was announced.

Based of Greg Gabriel's response on Twitter, he was let go. He said he talked to Cliff last week and there was no indication that he would be leaving the org. He believes it was Warren. Other theories: Poles didn't necessarily want to trade Roquan or not extend JJ already, but Stein's contracts were the limiting factor. So if JJ gets extended in the next week or so, there may be some legs to this.

Those were just examples. The rookie contracts go up less per year than a vet deal as well, so even if a Fields contract may go up a few mil per year, the other deals would offset any increases.

Foreshadowing? Brees was traded and SD drafted Rivers, who then went on to play 16 years with 12 seasons over 4K yards.

Cleveland crapped the bed today against Houston, wow they looked terrible. I cannot believe the Bears lost to this same team. They were not ready to play. Their defense in particular looked gassed and slow. Flacco decided to turn into a pumpkin and throw back to back Pick 6's. Houston ran off 35 straight pts down 14-10. Unbelievable really. The media is going to slurp off Stroud because he is a rookie, but man, he didn't have to do anything that difficult. Davis Mills would've looked like Justin Herbert today against the Browns. Stroud had so many easy passes and dudes were WIDE open. He dumps off a little screen pass, blown coverage, to the house for 76 yards by a slow TE. Then on another blown coverage, Stroud lobs a ball for another long TD to another TE. Zero sacks, I don't even think he was pressured/hurried once. If he was, I missed it.

Cliff Stein is gone:

Ugh Cliff Stein is out:

Yeah, my father-in-law is a Bills fan and I signed up for Peacock so he could see the Bills game a few weeks back. It was blacked out in his area and that was the only way he could see it. Then I had to walk him thru installing the App on an Amazon Fire over the phone (that was fun). But yeah, between needing Amazon Prime, YouTubeTv, and now Peacock is getting out of hand. The playoffs should be available to everyone without needing any special subscriptions.

Waldron and Kubiak are my selections based on what I have read. For Coen, it is tough to eval him, Kentucky was not very good, they don't have good players, and their offense actually scored a decent amount. In ranked games, they scored 35 against Clemson in the Bowl Game, 31 against Louisville, 21 against Alabama, 27 against Tennessee, 13 against Georgia, and 33 against Florida. So 6 games, and only one low scoring output for the offense. That is fairly impressive considering their roster. I would be ok with him if they missed out on Waldron and Kubiak going to other teams. Olson has not been very good everywhere he has been. He has been an OC for 5 different teams over the last 20 years. He can't hold a job down and never lasted more than 3 years in any OC position. The offenses he has ran ranked near the bottom half of the league in most of his seasons. Hard pass for me.

The trade down scenario seems like the best option, even if you consider the cap. With a trade down, using a similar deal as CARs, the Bears will get at least an extra 2nd in 2024 and 1st in 2025 with a contract controlled vet. 2nd Rounder - Rookie Edge ($1.5M) vs Vet Edge ($20M) = $18M in savings 2025 1st - Rookie DT ($4M) vs Vet DT ($20M) = $16M in savings Cost controlled Vet ($20M) vs new Vet FA signing ($24M) = $4M in savings Total savings in trade: $38M Fields 2026 ($50M) vs Rookie QB in 2026 ($12M) = $38M in net loss So a trade down actually is a break even decision compared to drafting a QB at #1. If the Bears select MHJ at #1, that would be the most costly course of action as the Bears would not gain any other draft picks to offset Fields salary. So the only options I see from a roster building perspective is to select a QB at #1 and use the available cap to sign 2 blue chip vets at key positions, while trading Fields to recoup a pick OR keep Fields and trade down enough to get a similar package as the CAR trade.

It is definitely a mix. With every new acquisition, the hope should be that they are an upgrade over the 53-man roster spot that they filling. On offense, it looks like WR1, TE1, LT, LG, RT, and RB are not going to be addressed. They need to upgrade C, WR2, RG, TE2, and WR3. If their is a potential upgrade at QB, you have to consider it as well. Same goes for LT, if the draft or free agency presents you with that opportunity.

2022, same Getsy offense, even in small sample sizes: Fields sack rate: 14.7% Siemian sack rate: 7.1% Peterman sack rate: 3.8% So Fields sack rate is in the 12's from 22-23, all other QBs (6+ games) is around 5.

I think the OC and QB Coach choice will be a small indicator. If they go with someone who specializes or has worked with QBs in a quick passing game/tempo offense, I think they would lean towards drafting a QB better suited for that style. If they bring in a set of coaches that have worked with mobile QBs, RPO Game, etc, then it probably leans back towards Fields returning and stocking up on more draft capital.

What's funny is if the 1st rounder is 35%, and the 2x 2nd rounders are both 20%, the odds of one of the two hitting is 36%. So there is something to that. Also, the percentage goes down by the actual pick, the round is sort of irrelevant, especially once comp picks get added.

Just like Shanahan, Kubiak has had a lot of football in his life. The year he was OC for MIN in 2021, their offense was 13th in DVOA, 12th in EPA/Droback, Cousins had a 103.1 QB Rating (4th), 33 TD (9th), 7 INT (2nd), and 4,221 yards passing (9th). Some may say that is what Cousins always does, but the year prior he threw 13 picks and the year after 14 picks, which are double the INTs from the Kubiak year, which is notable. The QB Rating dropped to 92.5 last year, a 10+ pt drop is also notable. That is an interesting comparison to what Geno did last year with Waldron: 100.9 QB Rating (5th), 30 TD (4th), 11 INT, 4,282 yards passing (8th). If I had to lean one way or the other Waldron would be my pick. Getsy was on Rodgers coattails, Kubiak could've easily been on Cousins. Also note, Kubiak didn't get another OC job in the last two years. The alternative argument is he has gained a year under Shanahan to make his scheme even better.

Welcome to the board! 1. You are correct, Flus still technically doesn't have his guy at QB, just like Poles. They inherited Fields, so that is another factor in this entire situation to consider. 2. If they draft anyone at #1 Williams is definitely one of the QBs they have to consider as long as the "human" stuff checks out. 3. This is a tough one. The Bears do not have a 2024 2nd from the Sweat trade, and 9 to 2 is a pretty huge leap that almost always includes a future 1st. There may be some crazy 3-team trade scenario and trade up to #3 that would work, assuming a QB is taken at #2 and you can get MHJ at #3 (Fields > ATL for #8 + #9 + 2025 2nd > #3). DJ and MHJ would instantly become a top 5 Duo in the NFL. Yeah, it has been a long 3 years, especially last year when the most exciting game was a HOU vs IND game.