Mongo3451 Posted 23 hours ago Report Share Posted 23 hours ago Make of it what you will... http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/caleb-williams-tried-to-avoid-being-drafted-by-bears-in-2024-hoped-to-play-for-this-team-instead-per-report/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted 22 hours ago Report Share Posted 22 hours ago I don't blame Caleb at all. He was right. Eberflus and Waldron was a nightmare scenario. I mean they actually didnt watch film with him! To the point where the guy is fired by week ten. What an absolute shit show! And in the end, Caleb did it anyway. he was a man and took his situation, bad as it was. I've got nothing but respect for Caleb in this. People will try to say he was being arrogant, and not a team player. But knowing what we know now, Caleb was just right about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted 19 hours ago Report Share Posted 19 hours ago Oddly I was saying all along before the draft I don't think Caleb wants to be in Chicago. Nothing I saw on video, from combine press conferences, interviews, to his pro day, showed body language that indicated he wanted to play here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZ54 Posted 18 hours ago Report Share Posted 18 hours ago This is how you respond... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ASHKUM BEAR Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago 1 hour ago, AZ54 said: Oddly I was saying all along before the draft I don't think Caleb wants to be in Chicago. Nothing I saw on video, from combine press conferences, interviews, to his pro day, showed body language that indicated he wanted to play here. I think after the Bears went to Hollywood and wined and dined him, his mind changed. They told him he will be a bear. He chose to accept the challenge and rewrite the QB narrative. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted 17 hours ago Report Share Posted 17 hours ago I have to give Poles points for being firm "We are going to draft you no matter what" The narrative was out there before the draft that he and his dad didnt want him playing in Chicago, and the book just expands on that, but youve got to figure by now Caleb and his dad are ecstatic about how it all turned out. 57 minutes ago, AZ54 said: This is how you respond... Absolutely. Johnson sounds really good. Cant wait to see it on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago I actually hate this and it makes me very worried about Caleb. Who is leaking this shit and what good does it do? Has to be coming from Caleb’s camp. How about instead of worrying about the narrative - just work right now on getting better…ripping Flus and spending time to leak this crap does nothing good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 18 minutes ago, DABEARSDABOMB said: I actually hate this and it makes me very worried about Caleb. Who is leaking this shit and what good does it do? Has to be coming from Caleb’s camp. How about instead of worrying about the narrative - just work right now on getting better…ripping Flus and spending time to leak this crap does nothing good. it was from interviews with the author of the book, I think before the 2024 draft. It isnt a new statement from Caleb, just newly released to hype the book. As far as I know, he made peace with all of it before we drafted him. that's also what the book says, according to other excerpts this week. I agree if he said this now, that would be really dumb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DABEARSDABOMB Posted 16 hours ago Report Share Posted 16 hours ago 12 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: it was from interviews with the author of the book, I think before the 2024 draft. It isnt a new statement from Caleb, just newly released to hype the book. As far as I know, he made peace with all of it before we drafted him. that's also what the book says, according to other excerpts this week. I agree if he said this now, that would be really dumb. That is helpful and am fine if it was more his dad pre draft - but nothing good about going along with this post draft. I just hear about the film stuff etc - maybe it was other players who leaked it - kind of hard to imagine they really were that incompetent. Of course I never supported that final year of Flus. But if this was all part of the initial pain and now Ben Johnson and this offseason is what it takes to get everything over up I’ll forget about it…come on Bears!!! 🐻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted 12 hours ago Report Share Posted 12 hours ago I get he liked O'Connell over Flus and Waldron. That just means he has a high football IQ. I heard interviews where he finally bought in when he came to Hallas Hall and seen the facuilities and spent time with Ian and Ryan. Then Poles when out and got him BJ and added to the offense. All Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mongo3451 Posted 6 hours ago Author Report Share Posted 6 hours ago GMFB had a timeline and it was all off-season until combine. Caleb loved his talk with O'Connell and Josh McCown. You hear a lot about O'Connell, but McCown is widely known to be a dude that players gravitate to, so I can see Caleb saying, I wanna play for that dude. I'm not worried one bit about this being a distraction. One meeting with Ben Johnson changed everything. I'll bet the house on that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted 4 hours ago Report Share Posted 4 hours ago 2 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: GMFB had a timeline and it was all off-season until combine. Caleb loved his talk with O'Connell and Josh McCown. You hear a lot about O'Connell, but McCown is widely known to be a dude that players gravitate to, so I can see Caleb saying, I wanna play for that dude. I'm not worried one bit about this being a distraction. One meeting with Ben Johnson changed everything. I'll bet the house on that... Totally, he mainly had a problem with Waldron of which he knew before at some QB camp. He's gone, poblem solved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan PHX Posted 3 hours ago Report Share Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, Mongo3451 said: GMFB had a timeline and it was all off-season until combine. Caleb loved his talk with O'Connell and Josh McCown. You hear a lot about O'Connell, but McCown is widely known to be a dude that players gravitate to, so I can see Caleb saying, I wanna play for that dude. I'm not worried one bit about this being a distraction. One meeting with Ben Johnson changed everything. I'll bet the house on that... exactly. if this was still Eberflus, then I wouldnt be shocked if Williams was demanding a trade at this point. And that'd play poorly in the press, we'd all be mad, but I think it'd be understandable. I mean they didnt even watch film with him! I am still flabbergasted at that. How do you learn how to run an offense if they wont watch film with you and talk about how your plays work against different defenses your opponent plays?! It's CRAZY how bad Eberflus and Waldron were. But instead, it's Ben Johnson now, and I am pretty sure with the roster turnover, and the level of coaches that Caleb is VERY happy with the situation now. And all of this switches now, from external concerns to Caleb himself. The table is set, and it all comes back to how he plays now. Assuming we get the LT spot locked down, there are no excuses. And I expect Caleb to rise to the challenge, and the window for the Bears is now opening. And of course, we need to see it on the field! But the pieces should be in place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stinger226 Posted 2 hours ago Report Share Posted 2 hours ago 49 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said: exactly. if this was still Eberflus, then I wouldnt be shocked if Williams was demanding a trade at this point. And that'd play poorly in the press, we'd all be mad, but I think it'd be understandable. I mean they didnt even watch film with him! I am still flabbergasted at that. How do you learn how to run an offense if they wont watch film with you and talk about how your plays work against different defenses your opponent plays?! It's CRAZY how bad Eberflus and Waldron were. But instead, it's Ben Johnson now, and I am pretty sure with the roster turnover, and the level of coaches that Caleb is VERY happy with the situation now. And all of this switches now, from external concerns to Caleb himself. The table is set, and it all comes back to how he plays now. Assuming we get the LT spot locked down, there are no excuses. And I expect Caleb to rise to the challenge, and the window for the Bears is now opening. And of course, we need to see it on the field! But the pieces should be in place. With everything we have done, now Caleb has to perform. The season will go on how well he moves forward in his second year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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