Bears Extend Poles

[Stinger226]

1 hour ago, adam said:

ESPN is an absolute joke.

New Coaching Staff: Johnson, DC (name a bigger upgrade in the league in the last 5 years?)
New FA/Trades: Thuney, Dalman, Jackson, Jarrett (trenches)
New Draft Picks: Loveland, Burden, Trapilo (BPA)

There is no other team in the NFL that upgraded as much as the Bears did. It is still on paper, but that's what they are grading on. ESPN has the Bears as the 16th best offseason. They are smoking crack.  It is all clickbait now. 

ESPN hates Caleb too. 

Very true

[BearFan PHX]

Another perfect example of how the bloggers and talking heads are full of crap. ESPN is supposed to be a flagship - like a major source.

It's BS season, and all the hype is crap. Even if a team turns out to have a great year, what they say about them now has nothing to do with it.

The click farmers throw this gruel out there and the fan boys just lap it up.

But the reality is coming, and I think the Bears stand a good chance of being great, not in articles, but on the field. But it doesn't happen because of praise, it happens because of hunger, and dedication. hours of hard work and wanting it more than the other guy. In this sense, praise works against your team.

[adam]

1 hour ago, BearFan PHX said:

Another perfect example of how the bloggers and talking heads are full of crap. ESPN is supposed to be a flagship - like a major source.

It's BS season, and all the hype is crap. Even if a team turns out to have a great year, what they say about them now has nothing to do with it.

The click farmers throw this gruel out there and the fan boys just lap it up.

But the reality is coming, and I think the Bears stand a good chance of being great, not in articles, but on the field. But it doesn't happen because of praise, it happens because of hunger, and dedication. hours of hard work and wanting it more than the other guy. In this sense, praise works against your team.

Yeah, in some of these cases, it is just pure bias. The top 4 teams are west coast, and top to in CA.  

The Rams were #1, and their best move was retaining Stafford? Like seriously. I should've stopped there. The 2nd team was SF, and their biggest move was resigning Purdy.  This has to be random AI stuff, because it makes no sense. 

[adam]

I posed the question in a few different AIs and this is what they came up with:

   GPT - GEM - GROK
1. CHI     NE      PIT
2. BAL    CHI    CHI
3. WAS   LAR    LAR
4. PHI     DEN    NE
5. PIT     MIN    WAS

So top 2 in all 3 major AIs, which now crawl the web for some consensus (make less stuff up), but somehow the smooth brains over at ESPN think the Bears were 16th?

[BearFan PHX]

22 minutes ago, adam said:

I posed the question in a few different AIs and this is what they came up with:

   GPT - GEM - GROK
1. CHI     NE      PIT
2. BAL    CHI    CHI
3. WAS   LAR    LAR
4. PHI     DEN    NE
5. PIT     MIN    WAS

So top 2 in all 3 major AIs, which now crawl the web for some consensus (make less stuff up), but somehow the smooth brains over at ESPN think the Bears were 16th?

they are fools. OR theyre smart and looking for clicks not the truth? either way it's as trashy as the national enquirer. same with PFF.

but i dont care - the games are won and lost on the field, and Im so sick of winning the offseason. I used to love the hype, but it has gotten me sick so many times, I just cant anymore. I have no patience for it, whether its pro Bears or anti Bears. I want us to dominate - THAT will be fun.

[Stinger226]

39 minutes ago, adam said:

Yeah, in some of these cases, it is just pure bias. The top 4 teams are west coast, and top to in CA.  

The Rams were #1, and their best move was retaining Stafford? Like seriously. I should've stopped there. The 2nd team was SF, and their biggest move was resigning Purdy.  This has to be random AI stuff, because it makes no sense. 

Dont there broadcasts come with the East and LA? Constant bias.

[adam]

35 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

they are fools. OR theyre smart and looking for clicks not the truth? either way it's as trashy as the national enquirer. same with PFF.

but i dont care - the games are won and lost on the field, and Im so sick of winning the offseason. I used to love the hype, but it has gotten me sick so many times, I just cant anymore. I have no patience for it, whether its pro Bears or anti Bears. I want us to dominate - THAT will be fun.

Yeah, it is all hot takes now.

29 minutes ago, Stinger226 said:

Dont there broadcasts come with the East and LA? Constant bias.

Yep, and it is pretty obvious.

[Mongo3451]

8 hours ago, adam said:

ESPN is an absolute joke.

They can kiss my ass.  ESPN went from sports journalism and reporting to woke politics. They are anti white and anti conservative.  I only tune in when there is a game I want to see.

[BearFan PHX]

21 minutes ago, Mongo3451 said:

They can kiss my ass.  ESPN went from sports journalism and reporting to woke politics. They are anti white and anti conservative.  I only tune in when there is a game I want to see.

amen

[AZ54]

Did ESPN after alternatives?   Who was the better HC candidate we should have signed?   Better DC?  Better OC?  Better LG?   Better RG?    Better TE maybe they preferred Warren?

[Stinger226]

12 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

They can kiss my ass.  ESPN went from sports journalism and reporting to woke politics. They are anti white and anti conservative.  I only tune in when there is a game I want to see.

So true, the personalities that I like left. Rich Eisen, Dan Patrick, Collin Coward. Also lots of NFL personalities have been from both coasts and clearly can see bias in their broadcasts.

[adam]

11 hours ago, AZ54 said:

Did ESPN after alternatives?   Who was the better HC candidate we should have signed?   Better DC?  Better OC?  Better LG?   Better RG?    Better TE maybe they preferred Warren?

Nah, ultimately they hated the Dayo and Jarrett signings, and the Jackson trade. So those were so negative, that they weighed down on everything else. Jackson played some Center for the Rams and was not used the same way that he was in Detroit. Jarrett wasn't even a Wave 1 signing. So Dayo is the only question mark, but the 49ers can trade for Bryce Huff, who had fewer sacks than Dayo in 2024, yet their spin on that is much different: "San Francisco also made a win-win trade for Bryce Huff, giving up a Day 3 pick for the former Jets and Eagles pass rusher." So the Bears can't bet on Dayo's potential because the pressures are there, but the 49ers can trade for a guy and it is spun as a positive, lmao. 

Yeah not bias at all lol: "The 49ers suffered significant losses in free agency -- Aaron Banks, Charvarius Ward, Jaylon Moore, Talanoa Hufanga and Dre Greenlaw -- but I thought most of these departures made sense for the team."

[Stinger226]

You are spot on. Poles made lots of changing over this last offseason. Law of averages will dictate a miss or two. But lets say Dayo only gets 7 sacks but high level of pressures? It that a miss, I think not. Jackson will absoultey upgrade RG, if he doesnt make the pro bowl, not a mistake.If Jarret is only 75% of who he use to be? I think we have to look at ths as a whole. Dexter and Sweat will play better because those players are there. The OL will take a giant step forward even if Jackson is just average. 

I think Poles has put together a winning team, no matter how each individual fails or succeeds.

[adam]

1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:

You are spot on. Poles made lots of changing over this last offseason. Law of averages will dictate a miss or two. But lets say Dayo only gets 7 sacks but high level of pressures? It that a miss, I think not. Jackson will absoultey upgrade RG, if he doesnt make the pro bowl, not a mistake.If Jarret is only 75% of who he use to be? I think we have to look at ths as a whole. Dexter and Sweat will play better because those players are there. The OL will take a giant step forward even if Jackson is just average. 

I think Poles has put together a winning team, no matter how each individual fails or succeeds.

Also, it's a team game with individual stats. So there are numerous ways to measure success. If you just look at raw stat leaders, the only player that finished 1st in a standard category that played in the Super Bowl was Saquon, who led the NFL in carries and rushing yards.  Top Passing stats: Burrow and Jackson. Top Receivers: Chase, St. Brown, and Jefferson. Most INTs: Joseph and McKinney. Most tackles: Franklin and Baker. How about most sacks? Hendrickson (9-8 team) and Garrett (3-14 team).

Interestingly enough, of the top 4 teams, the ones that played in the AFC and NFC Championship games (BUF, KC, WAS, PHI), not a single one had a player in the top 10 in sacks. Fowler-WAS had 10.5, Sweat-PHI had 8.0, Karlaftis-KC had 8.0, and Rousseau-BUF also had 8.0. So one team, had one player with double-digit sacks and finished tied for 12th in the NFL. 

To extend this sack thought further, in the last 35 seasons (1990-2024), there have only been 3 players to lead the league in sacks and play in the SB. So 3/70 (4.2%), and only one player won the Super Bowl (Kevin Carter) - 1.4%. So that is so bad that you would actually prefer not to have the league leader in sacks on your team if you want to go to or win the Super Bowl.