The Ben Johnson Effect

[Mongo3451]

12 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

The Bears will invest in the D/Dline through the draft, but dont expect them to be huge contributors year one. Rookies D-linemen take longer to become first string rotation since there is a huge jump from college to pros in strength and knowledge to overcome. If the Bears can shed some cap as another post was started by Mongo, i believe, they might try to add a legit pass rusher via trade.  I would rather build thru the draft, but if we a knocking on NFC div leaders door, the time is now. 

For the dline, Dexter will probably be asked to beef up a little more and become the full time 1T.  He simply isn't a 3T.  He still doesn't have a get off on the snap.  On passing downs, Sweat, Turner, Dayo and Booker would be a possibility.  I don't like Turner and Dayo right now, due to their injury status. 

I expect a heavy investment on defense in the draft, with the only offensive players being OL and RB.  I don't believe we make a big trade OR signing for a stud EDGE player. (The only way I see that occurring is if we also trade away some of our assets).  It could happen.  It's unfortunate that Jarrett, Dayo, Dexter and Turner were busts this year.

[AZ54]

3 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

For the dline, Dexter will probably be asked to beef up a little more and become the full time 1T.  He simply isn't a 3T.  He still doesn't have a get off on the snap.  On passing downs, Sweat, Turner, Dayo and Booker would be a possibility.  I don't like Turner and Dayo right now, due to their injury status. 

I expect a heavy investment on defense in the draft, with the only offensive players being OL and RB.  I don't believe we make a big trade OR signing for a stud EDGE player. (The only way I see that occurring is if we also trade away some of our assets).  It could happen.  It's unfortunate that Jarrett, Dayo, Dexter and Turner were busts this year.

I think Dexter and Jarrett are playing well.  They’re just not elite players.  I feel the same about Sweat.   Somewhere on the Dline we need a dude.  If not two.  

[Mongo3451]

1 hour ago, AZ54 said:

I think Dexter and Jarrett are playing well.  They’re just not elite players.  I feel the same about Sweat.   Somewhere on the Dline we need a dude.  If not two.  

I agree they are playing well, but Dexter is not up to his draft status and Jarrett is below his contract.  Both seem like good team mates.

[BearFan PHX]

I agree. we need at least two new dogs on the D line.

It's incredible the rest of the team has carried us here without a pass rush. Watching Jordan Love sit comfortably in a clean pocket for 5 seconds at a time was brutal.

And when we try to create pressure blitzing, we get burned.

The simple answer is we need a real pass rush from the front four. Add that to this team, and you can see where we are headed.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

17 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

I think we will do both. We dont have those DE dogs on the roster right now.

The way it's looking, the pick will be 31 or 32...  with that said, the trade value is less and the draft prospect more raw.  I know Poles has already done a lot of homework and by the sounds of it could possibly had Jermaine Johnson DE NYJ at the deadline if everyone was on board. His value was estimated a 2nd round pick. If NYJ gets antsy this draft, I'd test those waters again.  He is young and a disrupter.   Sherman Turner will be back and the Bears liked him at DE, especially on run downs.  He will be in the mix inside and outside.  Booker is showing promise, so it will be a mystery on how they approach this. 

[ASHKUM BEAR]

11 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

For the dline, Dexter will probably be asked to beef up a little more and become the full time 1T.  He simply isn't a 3T.  He still doesn't have a get off on the snap.  On passing downs, Sweat, Turner, Dayo and Booker would be a possibility.  I don't like Turner and Dayo right now, due to their injury status. 

I expect a heavy investment on defense in the draft, with the only offensive players being OL and RB.  I don't believe we make a big trade OR signing for a stud EDGE player. (The only way I see that occurring is if we also trade away some of our assets).  It could happen.  It's unfortunate that Jarrett, Dayo, Dexter and Turner were busts this year.

Jermaine Johnson DE NYJ has 13 mil contract next year.  Id consoder the 32 pick for him if the Jets are down for it.

[BearFan PHX]

1 hour ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

The way it's looking, the pick will be 31 or 32... 

ha love it
 

1 hour ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

Shemar Turner will be back and the Bears liked him at DE, especially on run downs.  He will be in the mix inside and outside.  Booker is showing promise, so it will be a mystery on how they approach this. 

without any evidence, just in my gut, I'll bet they will be more aggressive about this than we think. I have no idea what that will be though, but it wouldnt shock me to have two new starters on the DL, and even more new faces in the rotation.