The Ben Johnson Effect

[Mongo3451]

12 hours ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

The Bears will invest in the D/Dline through the draft, but dont expect them to be huge contributors year one. Rookies D-linemen take longer to become first string rotation since there is a huge jump from college to pros in strength and knowledge to overcome. If the Bears can shed some cap as another post was started by Mongo, i believe, they might try to add a legit pass rusher via trade.  I would rather build thru the draft, but if we a knocking on NFC div leaders door, the time is now. 

For the dline, Dexter will probably be asked to beef up a little more and become the full time 1T.  He simply isn't a 3T.  He still doesn't have a get off on the snap.  On passing downs, Sweat, Turner, Dayo and Booker would be a possibility.  I don't like Turner and Dayo right now, due to their injury status. 

I expect a heavy investment on defense in the draft, with the only offensive players being OL and RB.  I don't believe we make a big trade OR signing for a stud EDGE player. (The only way I see that occurring is if we also trade away some of our assets).  It could happen.  It's unfortunate that Jarrett, Dayo, Dexter and Turner were busts this year.

[AZ54]

3 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

For the dline, Dexter will probably be asked to beef up a little more and become the full time 1T.  He simply isn't a 3T.  He still doesn't have a get off on the snap.  On passing downs, Sweat, Turner, Dayo and Booker would be a possibility.  I don't like Turner and Dayo right now, due to their injury status. 

I expect a heavy investment on defense in the draft, with the only offensive players being OL and RB.  I don't believe we make a big trade OR signing for a stud EDGE player. (The only way I see that occurring is if we also trade away some of our assets).  It could happen.  It's unfortunate that Jarrett, Dayo, Dexter and Turner were busts this year.

I think Dexter and Jarrett are playing well.  They’re just not elite players.  I feel the same about Sweat.   Somewhere on the Dline we need a dude.  If not two.  

[Mongo3451]

1 hour ago, AZ54 said:

I think Dexter and Jarrett are playing well.  They’re just not elite players.  I feel the same about Sweat.   Somewhere on the Dline we need a dude.  If not two.  

I agree they are playing well, but Dexter is not up to his draft status and Jarrett is below his contract.  Both seem like good team mates.

[BearFan PHX]

I agree. we need at least two new dogs on the D line.

It's incredible the rest of the team has carried us here without a pass rush. Watching Jordan Love sit comfortably in a clean pocket for 5 seconds at a time was brutal.

And when we try to create pressure blitzing, we get burned.

The simple answer is we need a real pass rush from the front four. Add that to this team, and you can see where we are headed.

[ASHKUM BEAR]

17 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

I think we will do both. We dont have those DE dogs on the roster right now.

The way it's looking, the pick will be 31 or 32...  with that said, the trade value is less and the draft prospect more raw.  I know Poles has already done a lot of homework and by the sounds of it could possibly had Jermaine Johnson DE NYJ at the deadline if everyone was on board. His value was estimated a 2nd round pick. If NYJ gets antsy this draft, I'd test those waters again.  He is young and a disrupter.   Sherman Turner will be back and the Bears liked him at DE, especially on run downs.  He will be in the mix inside and outside.  Booker is showing promise, so it will be a mystery on how they approach this. 

[ASHKUM BEAR]

11 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

For the dline, Dexter will probably be asked to beef up a little more and become the full time 1T.  He simply isn't a 3T.  He still doesn't have a get off on the snap.  On passing downs, Sweat, Turner, Dayo and Booker would be a possibility.  I don't like Turner and Dayo right now, due to their injury status. 

I expect a heavy investment on defense in the draft, with the only offensive players being OL and RB.  I don't believe we make a big trade OR signing for a stud EDGE player. (The only way I see that occurring is if we also trade away some of our assets).  It could happen.  It's unfortunate that Jarrett, Dayo, Dexter and Turner were busts this year.

Jermaine Johnson DE NYJ has 13 mil contract next year.  Id consoder the 32 pick for him if the Jets are down for it.

[BearFan PHX]

1 hour ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

The way it's looking, the pick will be 31 or 32... 

ha love it
 

1 hour ago, ASHKUM BEAR said:

Shemar Turner will be back and the Bears liked him at DE, especially on run downs.  He will be in the mix inside and outside.  Booker is showing promise, so it will be a mystery on how they approach this. 

without any evidence, just in my gut, I'll bet they will be more aggressive about this than we think. I have no idea what that will be though, but it wouldnt shock me to have two new starters on the DL, and even more new faces in the rotation.

[BearFan PHX]

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1873277293297823

 

[adam]

21 or more points in 13 out of 15 games, with the only two games below 21 being 16 and 19. 

[BearFan PHX]

12 minutes ago, adam said:

22 or more points in 14 out of 15 games, with the only game lower than 22 pts is 19 pts. 

its incredible and theres so much room for improvement too!

And if we had a pass rush, wed have more possessions too

 

[adam]

11 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

its incredible and theres so much room for improvement too!

And if we had a pass rush, wed have more possessions too

 

Yeah, it's wild to score that consistently and still have yet to play a complete game.

[DABEARSDABOMB]

13 minutes ago, adam said:

Yeah, it's wild to score that consistently and still have yet to play a complete game.

I go back to he’s got a ton of warts but is already above average and those warts are absolutely fixable with work and good coaching and I think we have the coaching and he seems to have the work ethic! This is hard as we can get caught up in the quick flash and sizzle but he is just consistently getting better and I think year 3 will be another big step forward. 
 

I also think when they get Burden and Rome back we will see a Caleb who is even more ready to work his progressions etc. Jahdae might have a nice future in the slot too here. 

[Alaskan Grizzly]

Is it a coincidence?  

[adam]

2 minutes ago, Alaskan Grizzly said:

Is it a coincidence?  

Can't hurt right?

[adam]

Lions were 15-2 last year and 12-5 in 2024. So 27-7 with Ben Johnson at OC. This year they are 8-7. They hit their two-year loss total in 15 games without him.

[AZ54]

13 minutes ago, adam said:

Lions were 15-2 last year and 12-5 in 2024. So 27-7 with Ben Johnson at OC. This year they are 8-7. They hit their two-year loss total in 15 games without him.

Yes and in the few minutes of the 4th quarter I saw their was a clear lack of discipline and execution on many plays (drops, bad passes, even the blatant OPI at end of the game which is St. Brown thinking there is no way the refs will call this - hint:  he wasn't in a Packer uniform).  

[ASHKUM BEAR]

20 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

its incredible and theres so much room for improvement too!

And if we had a pass rush, wed have more possessions too

 

The offense needs to control the ball more than 2-1/2 minutes to help the D too.  Seems like GB would march the whole field were the Bears were 3 and out. 

I almost feel the Bears need a stud or two at DT more than the DE. Billings is not the same force as he was a year or two ago. 

[eback]

8 hours ago, adam said:

Can't hurt right?

Hopefully he is praying with the rest of us

[eback]

9 hours ago, adam said:

Yeah, it's wild to score that consistently and still have yet to play a complete game.

Without the defense scoring