Bears To Indiana? If They Go, Eat $h!t and CHOKE On it

[Lucky Luciano]

if i'm chicago and the state of illinois and they do this.... i say F'EM

do what the cleveland browns did. go where you want to scumbag vampires but you ain't taking the names with you.

if illinois can't take the name 'BEARS' away from them then surely take the 'CHICAGO'. give them NOTHING!!

so welcome TRIPLE H to the nfl.

Halas's Hammond Hemroids

eat SHIT you bloodsucking greedy bastard mccaskey family. you have given NOTHING to this franchise or CHICAGO since mugs halas died.

[BearFan PHX]

I hope the Bear stay in Illinois. I expect they will land in Arlington Heights after all of this.

But if they move to Hammond, the new stadium will be significantly closer to Soldier Field than the Arlington Heights location is.

I dont see this at all like the Browns, more like how the Giants and Jets play in New Jersey.

But most of all, the threat of Indiana must be real in order to GET to Arlington Heights.

[Mongo3451]

Tell us how you feel...🤦🏽

For starters, the Bears greatest desire is to stay in the city of Chicago.  But, when the city is billions in debt, including 500 million behind on their payments to Soldier Field, there's a problem. 

On to Arlington Heights.  The first thing they did, after the Bears bought the property, was try to shake the organization down for taxes on a demolition site, because they couldn't fund their school system without it.  They attended to tax it as a viable business site.  Welcome to the Heights, now bend over.

Onto the State Capital.  They told the Bears they wouldn't entertain anything until next year. (Isn't this year three of the Arlington purchase?). They didn't actually get caught with their pants down.  This was pure negligence by the parties that be, as they new the family wanted to break ground last year.

So, where do we blame the McCaskeys?  I don't see it.  The family is still hoping for Illinois to figure it out. Business minded Indiana sure understands what having the Bears would mean.  It took our governor no time in getting a proper bill passed to the benefit the Bears and our state. 

Screw Illinois.  They don't deserve the Bears.

[Stinger226]

4 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

Tell us how you feel...🤦🏽

For starters, the Bears greatest desire is to stay in the city of Chicago.  But, when the city is billions in debt, including 500 million behind on their payments to Soldier Field, there's a problem. 

On to Arlington Heights.  The first thing they did, after the Bears bought the property, was try to shake the organization down for taxes on a demolition site, because they couldn't fund their school system without it.  They attended to tax it as a viable business site.  Welcome to the Heights, now bend over.

Onto the State Capital.  They told the Bears they wouldn't entertain anything until next year. (Isn't this year three of the Arlington purchase?). They didn't actually get caught with their pants down.  This was pure negligence by the parties that be, as they new the family wanted to break ground last year.

So, where do we blame the McCaskeys?  I don't see it.  The family is still hoping for Illinois to figure it out. Business minded Indiana sure understands what having the Bears would mean.  It took our governor no time in getting a proper bill passed to the benefit the Bears and our state. 

Screw Illinois.  They don't deserve the Bears.

Spot on with everything you said .

I still think they end up Arlington heights but totally expect the politicians to screw this up. When I find interesting is the Hammond stadium would be 15 miles from Soldier field, AH is actually farther away.

No matter where they end up , they will keep the bear's name. 

Santa Barbara 49ers - no

New Jersey Giants - no 

New Jersey Jets - no

I understand the nostalgia of bears being in Chicago but these are different times we live in. When the 49ers moved they only lost 1% of the fan base.

[Mongo3451]

1 hour ago, Stinger226 said:

 

I understand the nostalgia of bears being in Chicago but these are different times we live in. When the 49ers moved they only lost 1% of the fan base.

What I find hilarious is the anti Indiana snobbery from the Illinais.  The same thing happened my freshman year at IU.  Chicagoans talked so much shit.  My simple question was, "why are you here then"?  Crickets chirped.  The fan base is what it is and once they stop crying, they'll be back...

[Lucky Luciano]

14 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

Screw Illinois.  They don't deserve the Bears

follow the colts then.

while you're at it, do the world a favor and never leave the state of indiana.

 

[Lucky Luciano]

15 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

1. But if they move to Hammond, the new stadium will be significantly closer to Soldier Field than the Arlington Heights location is.

2. I dont see this at all like the Browns, more like how the Giants and Jets play in New Jersey.
 

1. so what? you believe closer justifies any franchise team leaving their home venue because some neighboring crap state will throw their taxpayers under the bus and bribe the franchise into screwing the taxpayers in the original state or leave? fine, then let them leave the franchise name where they came from just like baltimore did with the browns. chicago keeps the name chicago bears for the next franchise expansion and indiana can have the hammond hemroids or the hammond hamsters for all i care. they deserve the mccaskey family.

2. how are the jets and giants any different? just because they have been doing it longer? they screwed the state that conceived them and supported them so the mega rich owners can get richer. these aren't some mom and pop businesses but multi BILLION dollar corporations owned by millionaire/billionaires who want to squeeze the average taxpayers into paying for their business expenses, build them new stadiums and rework the city/state infrastructure at tax payer expense to accommodate them. why should they get tax breaks you or i wouldn't get? cause they are richer? corporate welfare seems alive and well.

 

[Mongo3451]

1 hour ago, Lucky Luciano said:

follow the colts then.

while you're at it, do the world a favor and never leave the state of indiana.

 

Dang, that's harsh.  The Colts will always be my second team. Thanks for your valuable input.

[Mongo3451]

1 hour ago, Lucky Luciano said:

1. so what? you believe closer justifies any franchise team leaving their home venue because some neighboring crap state will throw their taxpayers under the bus and bribe the franchise into screwing the taxpayers in the original state or leave?

😭😭😭.  So they are screwing Illinois by leaving and screwing Indiana by arriving.  Ol George must be running around like a two petered puppy.    

Get this through your thick skull; Indiana is using it as an investment.  That's what well run states do.  You call us a crap state, but Illinois is shrinking and we are growing.  Hell, half of your state tried to secede to Indiana last election.  Maybe you should use your diatribes to affect change with the morons that run Chicago and your state.  It's not the McCaskeys this time.  

I can't wait for them to build in Indiana.  Chicago is a great and beautiful city, but is a huge money trap.  You can't even park at a hotel for less than $100.  If we want to see the Cubs, we go to Cincinnati.  We can get lower level seats, hotel, parking and dinner for less than a Cubs ticket.  

[Alaskan Grizzly]

Something to remember is that when Warren was with Minnesota there was talk of the Vikings leaving Minneapolis (possibly for LA of all places) when they were working to secure their new stadium in early 2012.  Evidently the approval vote for the city to help in the cost and stay in Minneapolis occurred on the 11th hour.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/vikings-clear-final-hurdle-to-get-new-stadium/#:~:text=The House passed it overnight,the best for this state."

I also saw a recent social media post that said McCaskey was getting a bit irritated with the process taking longer than it should be for this to be finalized.  And that Warren was mentioned as reason for his ire.  Although some of the corroborating stories appear to originate from back in December.  

[BearFan PHX]

6 hours ago, Lucky Luciano said:

1. so what? you believe closer justifies any franchise team leaving their home venue because some neighboring crap state will throw their taxpayers under the bus and bribe the franchise into screwing the taxpayers in the original state or leave? fine, then let them leave the franchise name where they came from just like baltimore did with the browns. chicago keeps the name chicago bears for the next franchise expansion and indiana can have the hammond hemroids or the hammond hamsters for all i care. they deserve the mccaskey family.

2. how are the jets and giants any different? just because they have been doing it longer? they screwed the state that conceived them and supported them so the mega rich owners can get richer. these aren't some mom and pop businesses but multi BILLION dollar corporations owned by millionaire/billionaires who want to squeeze the average taxpayers into paying for their business expenses, build them new stadiums and rework the city/state infrastructure at tax payer expense to accommodate them. why should they get tax breaks you or i wouldn't get? cause they are richer? corporate welfare seems alive and well.

 

Every single sports stadium is taxed WAY less than the going rate for property tax? Why? Because it generates sales and entertainment taxes for the state far in excess of what a hotel on that land would.

Its not corporate welfare, its an investment for the state that pays itself back and then some.

I dont begrudge you your feelings about this, you have every right to them, and like I said, i think all of this is all really just leverage to get it right for Arlington Heights.

But if they do move to Hammond (they wont) it wouldnt be the end of the world, or anything like the Browns situation. I cited the Jets and Giants as an example of having a stadium nearby in another state but still using the original state's name, that's all.