4 hours ago, AZ54 said:

Theo moved to LT today with the first string. Wills and Amegadjie started taking reps at RT. IMO that confirms who our swing tackle will be.

It also tells me the coaches are feeling good about Ozzy. That’s not to say Ozzy will be ready to start week one. I think it indicates they will need or want him to have a roster spot on the 53. IIRC he can’t go back on the PUP so that would mean IR designated to return. Which is out at least 6weeks? If they feel he’ll be ready to play sooner than that I think he stays a game day inactive for a few weeks.

All of that to say they don’t have a lot of confidence in Braxton, nor the other options, and want their best backup options available sooner than later.

I wouldn’t even rule out trading Braxton soon.

This is how I've seen that group from the beginning.

I said, Benedet is the floor of the group. Some may have wild potential upside, but Benedet is the worst it will get for us at LT, because his worst is the best of the bunch. His worst is serviceable. I dont believe any of the other three are.

And of course i think Trapilo, if he looks like last year, is the obvious best of the bunch if he is available.

But a couple of weeks ago, even when everyone (all the writers) were saying Benedet is out of the competition now, I held true to what I'd seen. I knew that couldn't be correct. And at least as far as the claim that he was out of the running, and only a backup for RT are concerned, thats obviously now proven false.

Will they choose Braxton over Benedet? Remains to be seen, but in my view it's Benedet by a mile.

8 hours ago, AZ54 said:

Theo moved to LT today with the first string. Wills and Amegadjie started taking reps at RT. IMO that confirms who our swing tackle will be.

It also tells me the coaches are feeling good about Ozzy. That’s not to say Ozzy will be ready to start week one. I think it indicates they will need or want him to have a roster spot on the 53. IIRC he can’t go back on the PUP so that would mean IR designated to return. Which is out at least 6weeks? If they feel he’ll be ready to play sooner than that I think he stays a game day inactive for a few weeks.

All of that to say they don’t have a lot of confidence in Braxton, nor the other options, and want their best backup options available sooner than later.

I wouldn’t even rule out trading Braxton soon.

Playing Theo at LT tells me that they really didn't like what they saw at RT. I certainly didn't. He was terrible. IMO, Theo is an OG. IMO x2, I believe Jones is LT 1 until Ozzy is ready. Will Izzy be ready in three weeks, not likely.

I think with Kiran and Wills playing LT , no one stuck out and they are looking at all options. Braxton with Ozzy coming back, probably gets put on the 4 week short list PUP, is their plan. It makes sense to have Theo play some LT if they go with the swing T instead of 4 OTs on the 53.

We are not alone with the concern at LT. You can bet their coaches will be watching our LT. Trades have happened coming out of joint practice

https://www.nfl.com/news/bengals-lt-orlando-brown-jr-feels-really-confident-despite-blown-block-vs-lions

Lots of back and forth in the Cincy practice today. About what you’d expect from two good teams. Benedet got owned on back to back plays for a sack. Braxton was also back with the ones and I didn’t see a single comment about him.

The most interesting tidbit was the fact they took Kyler Gordon there. Usually players just doing rehab are left behind to rehab at the facility. Makes sense and they left Bagent and Monangai at Halas Hall. The coaches are clearly giving Gordon the cold shoulder tough love approach but taking him on this trip makes me think he’s getting close to returning.

1 hour ago, AZ54 said:

Benedet got owned on back to back plays for a sack.

That's disappointing. Wish I could see the film!

51 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

That's disappointing. Wish I could see the film!

Lol, you saw it when he was playing RT in the last pre season game.

3 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

Lol, you saw it when he was playing RT in the last pre season game.

well I went back and watched the all 22 of the Cleveland game, and specifically watched him on every snap. Took about 40 minutes. He was fine, good even. Im not sure what you saw. Did you watch more than just the TV broadcast?

FOr anyone interested, it's like $80 for the year now: NFL+ and then you can watch and see why all that stuff happens, did Caleb miss an open receiver or was there a reason etc.

No need to listen to writers who may or may not have done any homework, or even listen to me or anyone, you can see for yourself. Thats the best way anyway.

35 minutes ago, BearFan PHX said:

well I went back and watched the all 22 of the Cleveland game, and specifically watched him on every snap. Took about 40 minutes. He was fine, good even. Im not sure what you saw. Did you watch more than just the TV broadcast?

Nope. Just what I saw...

In two weeks Kaden Davis has gone from someone I never heard of to catching passes from Caleb Williams against the Bengals starting defense.

5 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

Nope. Just what I saw...

I personally cant really see a player that well unless they make a big play good or bad during the broadcast. When i go back on the all 22 and focus on them its easier to see what theyre doing and in context, so why.

It's $80 for the year to get NFL+ I highly suggest it to anyone that cares enough to post on this board regularly. ANd i wonder if we wouldnt all start to agree more if we all did that?

It's $80 for the year to get NFL+ I highly suggest it to anyone that cares enough to post on this board regularly. ANd i wonder if we wouldnt all start to agree more if we all did that?

So, if we are all superiorly informed, then we can all agree more? Thank you. I'll try to relearn football. Cheers 🥂

7 hours ago, AZ54 said:

In two weeks Kaden Davis has gone from someone I never heard of to catching passes from Caleb Williams against the Bengals starting defense.

The Bears are pretty set at the top with Odunze, Burden, Raymond, Walker, and Thomas. The 5th and 6th WRs have to be ST contributors, so if Davis can also serve as a gunner on punts and can be a contributor on kickoff coverage, he will probably get a spot.

The challenge will be as a WR or receiver in general, how many targets would he see after Odunze, Burden, Raymond, Walker, Loveland, Kmet, and at least Swift.

9 hours ago, BearFan PHX said:

I personally cant really see a player that well unless they make a big play good or bad during the broadcast. When i go back on the all 22 and focus on them its easier to see what theyre doing and in context, so why.

It's $80 for the year to get NFL+ I highly suggest it to anyone that cares enough to post on this board regularly. ANd i wonder if we wouldnt all start to agree more if we all did that?

I don't really need to give the NFL $80 more than I already do. Although to be fair I'm pretty cheap anyway. There are already so many breakdowns on Youtube such that you can watch, for example, the breakdown of Logan Jones, but move your eyes to RT to see how Benedet performed on the same play. All-22 is often shown on QB breakdowns but not always shown for DBs. That's the one place where I think it would be helpful. Interior line play I can usually find enough snaps from some other breakdown, and that includes watching film of our opponents QB to see our coverage, if you can find it. Dudes like Brissett and Geno Smith aren't always worthy of someone's time to put together a video.

On Benedet you and PFF agreed based on the Brown's game. However, after what I saw last year I don't think he has enough length to survive long term at OT. Hopefully this offseason he got rid of the hops he displayed last year where he often had both feet airborne at the same time. If he does that he'll be better against power. DEs with length and speed will likely still give him problems IMO. We get to find out tomorrow if the rushes he gave up in practice yesterday were aberrations or cause for concern.

TV Broadcasts, film clips from practice, videos on YouTube, and your preferred All 22 film breakdowns are ALL subject to personal interpretation. So, the answer is no. If we all forked over $ 80 to the NFL, it would make them and you happy, but we would still disagree on our evaluations.

The NFL and its creative scheduling to try to force die-hard fans to pay for streaming services they aren't subscribed to in order to view all games is nothing short of extortion. They can shove the $ 80 membership fee up their wazoo, as far as I'm concerned.

4 hours ago, Mongo3451 said:

So, if we are all superiorly informed, then we can all agree more? Thank you. I'll try to relearn football. Cheers 🥂

sheesh so defensive.

I didnt say you need to relearn anything, what i said was that *I* have an easier time seeing a player when I am not also involved in the game in real time.

I also didnt suggest some pundit that you should listen to - my suggesting inherently says that your own eyes would be the guide, so you wouldnt need to learn anything.

34 minutes ago, Pixote said:

TV Broadcasts, film clips from practice, videos on YouTube, and your preferred All 22 film breakdowns are ALL subject to personal interpretation. So, the answer is no. If we all forked over $ 80 to the NFL, it would make them and you happy, but we would still disagree on our evaluations.

The NFL and its creative scheduling to try to force die-hard fans to pay for streaming services they aren't subscribed to in order to view all games is nothing short of extortion. They can shove the $ 80 membership fee up their wazoo, as far as I'm concerned.

Jeez, so angry. I get that you guys dont like me, but just because there are a few of you together, doesnt make you right.

Dont buy it, I dont care.

But I watch it and I know what I see with my own eyes - it's not rocket science, it's just football. Anyone can see it, but if they refuse to look, then thats another thing entirely.