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Good question. I would have considered this heresy 10 years ago, but Im a 3-4 convert now.

Yeah the defense is looking VERY good on paper. ANd considering the core was already working, it is an easy prediction that they will be really good this year. Top 3 or better even. There is a lot of reason for optimism on the offensive side of the ball too, but until one of the QBs takes the reigns and establishes some rhythm and expectations, it's just a bunch of names. Unlike the defense there is no core to build on, so predictions are tougher to make. Imagine that the defense plays lights out, but Nagy's offense never quite finds a rhythm. Imagine that we go 9-7 or 10-6, and then make an early exit in the playoffs, maybe winning one playoff game first. Imagine that all season and in the playoffs the defense kills it but the offense sputters. Do you fire Nagy but keep Pace? Maybe promote Pagano? Now imagine that the offense finds some rhythm with Graham and Ginn contributing heavily. There's no future there anyway given their ages. It's going to be a really interesting season. If all the cards fall right, it might even buy a us super bowl, but then a lot of our players would be free agents again anyway in 2021. Is this what it's like to be a Yankees fan?

sounds right to me too.

ahahahaha

I like Patterson a LOT. I do hope we keep him. I would like to see him used more in the offense. If they can get value in the field from him, great. BUt they have to work him in and call his number. I was just saying that with Ginn on the team, Patterson's returner role overlaps. And that he is a place to find $5 Million in cap room *IF* you need it for something you think would be more helpful. I don't know if I can go so far, as much as I hate Leno, to say that I WOULD cut or trade Patterson and get Peters. But I'd have to think about it at least, and signing Ginn just changed that calculation, even if only a little.

They may have signed Ginn as a kick returner too. If we cut Patterson, we open up $5 Million on the cap for Jason Peters or a Safety...

Jason Peters got 6 Million last year. Say it with me LOL

this years loss of 1st rounder was offset by gaining a 2nd rounder back this year, and we gave this year's 3rd too. So maybe it's cleaner to consider that we drafted Mack with last year's #1, and Johnson with this year's. RD 1: Jaylon Johnson CB (and 1/4 of Khalil Mack EDGE) RD 2: Cole Kmet RD 3: 1/10-ish of Khalil Mack EDGE RD 4: Nick Foles QB RD5 Trevis Gibson OLB RD5 Kindle Vinder CB RD5 Darnell Mooney WR RD7 Arlingtin Hambright OT/OG RD7 Lachavious Simmons OT/OG

yup lol I admit, I am fast running out of options on this one.

He even whiffed on that one. Please, ghost of Halas, fix this.

I think they will play both of these picks and the free agent OT we picked up - they will just crazy glue them together, and the six armed monster will replace Leno. It's not as if I've gone insane because we didnt draft a legit replacement for Leno...

Im guessing Trey Adams and Jr Reed Possible QB too

practice squad - hes a backup for the slot CB position.

I wondered too, but the knock on him is tackling, so I dunno.

the nfl.com player description says his NFL comparable is RRH lol

good point.

yeah we got him with next years 4th. cool. Looks like we picked up another low pick too? Not sure.

Ok we traded next year's 4th rounder for this one. hmm.

we still have picks, looks like we maybe added some - did we trade a player??

UGH. ugh ugh ugh. Jason Peters or bust?

If we can fit Williams under the cap, we should do what it takes. I dont see how at this point right now.

yeah but youve been right that no one left on the board is a day one starter. Or even a year one starter at OT.

also agree. also, youre another step closer to winning our bet

yep if we have a suitor for a couple of slots yes

yes thats right. Im not out for Massie's head at all, I just thought it was funny and depressing LOL Anyway, now as of the last hour I suddenly have unreasonable love for Prince Wanogho. If I knew more Id probably back off of him too. But I dont, so long live the draft!