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Everything posted by BearFan PHX
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right on. Im with you.
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Great exercise! I purposely didn't cheat, and I still picked Edmunds. Well done. I'd like to point something out to those who want another OLB edge rusher. You only bring one of them in a base defense, the other does coverage. If both OLB rush the passer in a 3-4 alignment, that's a blitz. I can't imagine people think we ought to be blitzing on every down. Having two OLB edge rushers doesn't make a lot of sense. You'd always be putting one into coverage. If on the other hand, you want to drop floyd sometimes, and bring pressure from another angle, there's no reason that it can't come from the ILB position. In fact, that's even tougher to diagnose. I just want to repeat it again - you don't rush two edge rushing OLB unless you're blitzing. And if you're blitzing, the 5th man doesnt have to come from the OLB position at all. Also, you'd be wasting the edge rusher's skills if you had him (or Floyd) in coverage on most downs anyway. If you want another base defense pass rusher, make it a 3-4DE. If you want a blitzing change of pace linebacker, it can be in the middle too, and make it someone who has coverage skills too. That's why I like Edmunds.
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my guy - Tremaine Edmunds my likes - Nelson, Ward, Vae hate - McGlinchey
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Thanks! I think most of people on this board are smart, and reasonable. We've all seen enough football to admit that no one really knows anything for sure. There are only a small number of dogmatic and myopic posters who get an idea and then wont let it go. most boards and sites are filled with them, I love this place, Im SO glad it's back. Thank you again for it.
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and we started him at WLB because he wasnt ready to shed blocks int he NFL!
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Exactly. We had 20 years of drafting off of the common wisdom, and every year we felt an amazing player fell to us. We picked one Stan Thomas or David Terrell after another. The fact is that the good teams have their own values on these players, especially uncovering the hidden issues that we dont see from our perspective here on the sidelines. And with the rare exceptions of the first five picks or so, they ALL need to project how they will be int he NFL after they grow, and that's not something you can just see from game film either. We know a lot, but Pace and the staff know a lot more than we ever can.
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Lynch plays OLB, and Edmunds will play ILB. Edmunds will take over for Kwitkowski, and eventually Trevathan when he slows down.
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Sure, but if you want to mess up the offense, you dont bring the guy to OLB, you rush him from the ILB position and let Floyd get into coverage on that play. I love Edmunds at 8. But I trust Pace and the staff to get this right, they have more info that I do.
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In a 3-4 both OLB dont rush together unless it's a blitz. This is why having a sometimes pass rusher in the middle like Clay Matthews makes more sense than two pass rushing OLB. Now if you can get a good pass rushing 3-4DE, like Hicks, that's something you can use on every down for pressure. But if you want another LB to rush the passer in a 3-4 there is no need for it to be from the OLB rather than ILB position.
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I dont think Smith is better in coverage. Edmunds excels in coverage, and I have seen some very impressive film with extremely fluid hips running with WRs.
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Edmunds has more upside than Smith, and since this si the first year of a new staff, and we have a new QB developing, the win now / sign peaking free agents model doesnt fit. We are building a team for a window that probably opens next year. We will be competitive this year, and maybe even go 9-7. But we've lived through too many decades of the quick fix 9-7 team that ages before it gets 10 wins to do this again. Pace has the discipline and the time to draft for ceilings, and Edmunds looks like he could be a transformative player.
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not to mention that he will eat up the middle of the field on 3rd down. It'd be like having the best Lovie cover 2 when we went to that look, but we wouldnt be predictably in it all the time. I think Edmunds is a real chess piece.
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Thanks so much for this. I love this board, and your efforts are greatly appreciated!
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I dont see where Edmunds will be switching to OLB. I see him as a dominant, once in a lifetime ILB that will redefine the position in a similar way to the way Urlacher did in terms of eating up space, coverage etc It took Urlacher a couple years too. Truth is it takes pretty much every player a year or two to adjust to the NFL.
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Id much rather have Edmunds than Smith
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some good names on that list, I bet youll see some as Bears
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I dont think the Bears are superbowl bound this year, so I think you take the player who will be most dominant in 2019 or 2020
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is it the same one who knows everything, but somehow doesnt value ILB at all?
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Im on the pace bandwagon for sure.
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I agree. Unless he really has his eye on a pass rusher that we don't see, Edmunds would be a great chess piece. WHo knows, maybe he secretly like Roquon Smith better. Im loving the options and the not knowing. I have NO idea what Pace will do, but I bet I will be happy with the pick and he will improve the team. It's almost like... a real team with a real GM... WHAT?!?
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totally. this is FUN!
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Im looking forward to the team that Nagy builds. I hope we are ready to play football in week one, it seems a bit early.
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Oh for sure, Im not saying he has accomplished everything that Anderson did, obviously NA has more yards. I'm saying that he is a better player in his first 2 seasons than Anderson was, and I think he is a better back. Whether he will have as long a career, who can say.
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Howard has a ton of heart and finishes every run. He's always falling forward. He also have great vision and power. He's the ideal compliment to Cohen. I think Howard is better than Neil Anderson was.
