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nah, you seem to have forgotten you said the same BS to me yesterday about a joke I made. Seems you can dish it out but not take it. Not surprising tho. I think you need to watch your tone here going forward, because youre basically a turd. Either: 1) give and take or 2) stfu because this third way of dishing it out and then becoming a snowflake is pathetic.

Also, if Nagy gets fired after this year, Pace will too.

"has only done" and "he and Nagy" Are you OK?

As a result of this virus, and experimental treatments, if just one out of a million people in the US manages to mutate into a 6' 7" 350 pound hulk, there should be lots of new free agent options at OT.

Right. I didn't want to get into the weeds about it, but the RPO is the evolution of the play action pass. You can "figure it out" in the sense that you understand it, but you can't play the run and the pass simultaneously as an individual LB. Also, when I said RPO, I meant it broadly, meaning all of Nagy's offense, not just the RPO specific plays in it. I personally think Nagy wont ever use the run enough to be successful. That's what Ive seen from him. I think the odds are pretty good he is not our head coach opening day 2021. But I have my views on traditional football, based on what I have already seen. Nagy may be right that his offense is the future. He will curely have this year to demonstrate that. And if I see it opening up and scoring huge points, then I will have to admit that he was right, and maybe Trubisky was the biggest problem. But I've also seen other video game offenses come and go. From the Run & Shoot, to Trestman's passing schemes, I've been told that these new pass heavy offenses would eventually make the running game less important. And in general they havent. Then again Bill Walsh did change the game forever with some basic concepts that achieved a similar outcome, and have stayed around ever since. So, I have my point of view, but I am willing to be wrong, and I sure will be happy if I am. (and I have to add, if we dont get help at OLT, probably none of it matters either way)

This is what I think too. But I am open to the fact that Nagy has this year to prove something, and so if he does, I will notice it. But all things being equal, I agree with you, and that's why I wanted Nagy gone at the end of last year.

lol this is what I was suggesting at the end of last year, and would have saved us a year - but I understand that nagy may well prove to me that the system works, and it was all Trubisky's fault. Im not saying I expect that. I think the lack of a running game was a huge problem, but maybe Nagy will show me that Im old fashioned and dont understand the RPO enough.

I agree with the first pick at OT for sure. With the second one, if there was a CB that we liked I think that would be the best choice, but BPA of WR, TE, OG, S could work too.

yes, with a hedge against injury too. I do suspect Graham will have limited snaps to keep him fresh if possible.

of what he COULD do. Im not saying it's either/or I will be interested to see it on the field. We know Graham's football IQ, hands and competitiveness are all still excellent. I wonder how effective he can be, and for how many snaps. But like I siad, Im not predciting gloom and doom, Im just curious. I give it 50/50 and the upside is huge.

exactly. another question is whether anyone would offer anything for him. so even if he is not traded, that is not evidence that Pace didnt WANT to trade him, making him "trade bait"

Trade bait doesnt mean the player is bad. If they are bad no one will trade for them. Trade bait is a player who hasnt been productive in the system, and in this case would liberate cap space if traded or cut.

for sure. and there is some chance Cohen is trade bait as we speak.

Id be cool with this for sure.

you could be right Stinger, but time will tell. I think they will grab a free agent at OT at some point this year.

I think that the fact that we didnt spend big on OT doesnt mean that we arent playing the waiting game on a free agent OT like Jason Peters. What we know is they didnt target a long term answer at OT in free agency. The rest is still being played out.

or can we weld a run game into this RPO offense

Grizz, I dont believe it either. I think it's Nagy's fatal flaw. But maybe one way or another he will show me that his offense is the future. Otherwise it's not gonna matter who is at QB.

cutting Leno gains you $3 mil on the salary cap. If I had both, Id play Peters over leno in a heartbeat. I dunno what he wants for $, or what we can give, but strgith up Id take Peters in a heartbeat. Not long term of course, just for right now.

yeah, but not to win the bet, its the other way around LOL the reason there is a bet is because Im so dogmatic about changing the OLT!! If we get a deent OLT, then Nagy gets one more chance to prove his stuff works, and it was Trubisky and the OL that was the problem. Maybe he LOVES to call the run, and just couldnt because they werent blocking it? If we get a new OLT Ill be a very optimistic fan indeed.

any thoughts on 38 year old OLT Jason Peters? His age is scary, but he is still performing at a very high level, comes from Philadelphia, and will likely be available on a cheapish deal. You can sign him, cut Leno, and draft someone to take a year to grow under him (in the weightroom too, as most rookie OLs require) He could be the missing piece that makes us a real threat.

I think once the market shakes out, we might end up squeezing a cheap last year or two out of Jason Peters. THAT would be amazing. Id win my bet!

https://chicago.suntimes.com/bears/2020/3/22/21189967/bears-free-agency-2020-jordan-lucas-agrees-contract-chiefs-safety-ryan-pace-deon-bush-matt-nagy

I think that you can only target so many positions to go after early in free agency when longer term deals at higher prices are available. If instead, you dont think the best free agent option at a position is that much better than the 8th best, then you wait for the music to stop and grab one of the guys who are left on a shorter term deal thats much more cap friendly. I assume that is what Pace is doing regarding the OL. I strongly suspect we will be bringing in free agent help on the OL before this is all over. Obviously it's not going to be a high priced stud, but Im not sure we could have afforded the top salaries at the position, and probabl;y dont see a huge difference in talent on the next tier. Of course you know I think we need serious help on the OL, but paying a journeyman a mot of money doesnt turn him into a Pro Bowler either. I guess we just wait and see.

I think Tre Roberson is a wild card here. He miight just be a depth signing from an inferior league, but he was playing pretty damned well there, and a number of teams made offers for him. Who knows? I won't be counting on him, but he could well surprise.