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Ok "bullshit" it is. It didn't work and our team lost. On to the next game.

We'll good for you then, you benefit from a rarity on Goulds behalf.

Oops sorry missed your comment. Absolutely right. And as much as it pains me Southside, couldn't agree with you more.

But....IF Gould HAD made it, then none of this would be a concern or discussed. We all know Gould is normally automatic from that distance...regardless the angle. Hindsight is indeed 20/20 my friends.

Not sure I agree completely. Although not sure why. Sure I've been a bit skeptical on Trestman but to solely blame him for this loss? McCown made a few errors of his own (this coming from one of his biggest fans). The attempted shovel pass that became a turnover resembled Cutler like choices, but that was momentum swinging. And the near interceptions early on were dodged bullets in their own right. The officiating was pretty sketchy at the latter half. The defense started out great then fell back to being very porous again. What would Lovie have done to the heavily depleted defense to keep them legit? I'll say it again, losing Urlacher is bigger than most here will admit. Pair that with the injuries and Lovie gone, the defense has fallen back a few years. So to blame all of this on Trestman might be a stretch, if only slight.

I for one think Wright will be the longer term solution. Just not sure who his pair will be; Tillman, Steltz or draft? It's games like this where I wish something could be worked out with Peppers.

Gotta say having Steltz in as spy on AP is paying big dividends. He's very disciplined. Like what I'm seein. And amped to see how Ratliff contributes.

I seem to recall in a few conversations I've heard and articles ive read I distinctly recall hearing that 'Tucker has experience in both the 4-3 and 3-4". Maybe means nothing.. Good point about Bass. He looks more like an OLB than DE. Could seem as a 'stand up' guy.

I've actually always been a fan of Terra's. He takes the jabs pretty well....despite his inflmmatory remarks. This place would be too boring if it wasn't for adversity. There is no doubt he is one that provides it. To be honest, I think he thrives in it. In fact, when I think of Terra I envision.... And in response to Mongo: I still think SMC has something to prove. He's not a 'wasted pick' despite Terra's insistence.

Right back at ya you crotchety old so and so. Whodda thought you'd be this sappy? I was actually going to post something like this but you beat me to it. You do have a soft side. For what its worth we are getting pretty much the same weather most of the US is 'complaining' about right now. Difference being is we're used to it. Neverteheless my hope is that if any of you have to travel in it you do so safely and get to wherever it is you're intending to be without delay. Travel safe and Happy Turkeyday!!!

Not a big fan of getting into draft predicitions, especially this early BUT I do like your thinking. The first major change (IMHO) is to convert to a 3-4 scheme. Need more middle range pass coverage and run support. That being said.... I'm good with letting Peppers go. Not sure his deal but think his shelf life is expired. Along the line I see Paea, Melton (yes he's still needed) and Wooton. Bass (maybe) for rotational purposes. What happened to Ratliff? Is he going to play this year? Ever ?? LB's: Bostic, Briggs (why not?), Greene and SMC. Williams needs to go. He's been out more than in for the last two years. Eject without predjudice. I would say keep Anderson if I could think of a good reason. Maybe he'd stay around as a back up? (Wish the team had kept Urlacher for one more year). and secondary: CB's Jennings (he's only one year removed from a Pro Bowl and leage leading 9 INTS) and just signed a new contract (didn't he?) and either Bowman or a high draft pick. On Safety I say Tillman and Wright. No doubt Conte needs to go and another poster suggested keeping one of the two current safeties, of them Wright has more upside. For backup and nickel or dime coverages I'm good with Frey and McManis sticking around. McManis has been pretty solid on ST's. Hayden needs to be jettisioned...the reason, see DJ Williams.

Thank you!!! Looks like I'll be getting one after all. Ever make it to Alaska to do some fishing? I don't do a lot of fly fishing but hear people up here love it. Again, many thanks. Happy Holiday!

Where do I get one? Figure if you guys don't know there is still time to ask Santa. http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/18376...grater-headgear

I like how the three kids who asked for "CB" stuff are all across the top and the one who didn't is on the bottom. You are a lucky man. My kids wouldn't even think about asking for CB stuff. All the other stuff on the lists yes, but not the other. Thanks to you and your family, there is hope for the future.

I had actually thought that as well...the "what if" thinking in me. If not right away, I could see Marshall becoming a real nuisance if Cutler were gone. ala Denver, of course Trestman is no McDaniels..thankfully. In regards to the QB situation, I think the best case scenario at this point is to Franchise Jay for next year. I'm fairly certain McCown would be willing to sign on for another year or two as the back up. I agree with Cracker that he ain't going anywhere. One thing to consider is that Cutler is becoming injury riddled.... I shy from saying "prone" but for all intentns and purposes, he's starting to build a reputation with a history of injuries. We all know it, and other teams know it. All things as they are, my money's on Cutler being back next year...if for only one more. And with McCown as the backup, I'm good with it.

I think fiscally this makes the most sense. I think if Cutler were intent on leaving Chicago (purely due to frustration or wanting "too much" money) then I would be ok with your scenario. Like I said recently, I believe McCown is willing and able to be the #2 ... unless he was asked to do more. At which point I would think he could fill in quite admirably. Remember, he still has Jeffery, M. Bennett, Marshall and Forte on his team. Not like he's working with a bunch of scrubs.

He's cast in the wrong position. I think it safe to say that after this season the defense will definitely need to re-evaluate its direction and seriously entertain the idea of a 3-4 base. With McC I as an OLB he'll be much better suited to his skills. Despite Terra Tor's opinion of SMC's obselence, he will work out fine. SMC not Terra Tor.

Agreed. With being 35 and through his experiences he has learned the value of humility. He knows his role and would probably not expect more, in Chicago or otherwise.

Oopss....DP

The same could be said about Green Bay. Look how one dimensional they became when Rodgers is hurt. And...if Lacy were hurt how much a drop off their is in their running game. Their D, although run by one of the better Defensive minds in the NFL, is injury riddled much like the Bears'. The only reason they're still in the running is due to Chicago and Detroit's own inepetitude this year.

Did you see last night's game when Brady didn't get the call he thought should have been called on Kendricks? He was about to piss himself he was screaming so much. And there were tons of 'missed calls' against Talib in his coverage of Thomas. And lest I forget the week before on the late game interception against Carolina. I think Brady was more than a little miffed in his not getting his way.

You're absolutely right. Offensive and defensive holding goes on EVERY play during a game, especially in the trenches. Its been this way for years. The calls that seem to gain noteriety are the one's that are near or at the 'point of attack'. Like Bennet's block to back as Forte scooted by for a TD is pretty obvious, as was Bushrod's near choke out with his right arm when McCown threw a TD around the same time. Calls of this nature are hard to miss. I agree and first the buck stops with Trestman. He needs to figure out how to address and put an end to it. The other aspect is the lack ... or less... of leadership in either squad. On D its pretty safe to assume that had Urlacher been playing he would have been able to get people in their proper spots and chastised them when they consistently caused a penatly...hello Bowman and Conte!!!! I swear if I see one more lob over Conte's head without him looking back!!!!! On the offensive side I would think not having Cutler in may be an issue. I don't know that McCown is as much the disciplinarian. Weirdly enough the time in yesterday's game when Mills' shoe came off reminded me of last year when Webb did it and Cutler had to call a timeout to address it. Not sure how Cutler's presence would have changed things...more just an observation. But I'm not sure that Marshall, Forte, Bennett are leaders in the true sense of the word. I do see Garza trying but he's got his hands full with the o-line, especially the rooks.

Gotta say I agree. I made the same observation during the game thread. I was much more frustrated then but the players killed themselves, not the refs. I would normally agree with Cracker that the calls were horse pucky but this trend of negating scoring due to penalties has been on a trend these last few games. I know it happened against Detroit and pretty sure it happened (or at least stopped a drive) against Baltimore. If I believe the referees are conspiring against the Bears then that was an alien ship I saw hovering over my house the other day. But more than likely its just pure undiscipline on the part of the Bears. Like I said in the game thread, they don't deserve to win any further unless they clean this crap up.

I dont the delayed scoring was due to McCowns play. Instead more because of all the penalties .

I will say this now. Based on what I've seen today and the last couple games with the penalties; the Bears do not deserve to win. They've become a disgrace.