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Since he wants a trade, is this something the Bears should entertain?

I think someone else pointed out before that a large reason he isin't coaching right now has more to do with the $5 million that the Bears are paying him (for the last year of his contract) more than him not coaching because he can't. I second what CD says that at the worst, Lovie will be coaching somewhere as a DC if not HC again. A commentator just made an observation the other day that made sense. Sometimes coaches get stale after a while and a change of scenery sometimes makes a world of difference. He was talking about Andy Reid in this instance but the same could be applied for others. Bill Belichick and Pete Carroll are two others that come to mind.

Ok so let me play 'Devil's advocate'. Looking at the video I see missed blocking assignments more than Anderson doing something "spectacular". In fact if there is credit to be given, its not on one player or another but more a team effort. Hell, Thayer even acknowledges that McClellin did as good a job as Anderson at distracting the blockers to open the lane. The Guard that double teamed (and could have missed his assignment) in both cases is Ramon Foster. Not a lot of history on the guy other than he is the oldest member of the Oline and was an undrafted free agent from Tennessee back in '09. So the discussion could be moreso Pittsburgh's overall inability than any one player's ability on the Bears, especially Anderson.

FWIW, I'm glad to see one other person out there that isn't 'Lovie bashing'. Although Mad is one of the few that does it with facts and understands my stance. He and I have gone back and forth....now he's trying to convince me to drink the Kool Aid instead of the other way around. Oddly enough, he's a 'cranky old guy too'. Just not as cranky. I've been asking that same question since I moved here 36 years ago. I've even tried a few times to leave (joined the Navy, started college) but for some reason keep coming back. Its a viscious cycle. The best opportunity to move is duing the summer but when the summer is here its the only time you don't want to leave. The summers are beyond comparison. Today is actually in the 40's but raining like cats and dogs. Monday we saw our first snowfall, although it didn't stick. But as I look out the window I see the "termination dust" working its way down the mounatins.

Right, but Anderson is playing in the spot that Roach used to occupy. And although you might counter with the stats are not the same due to the positions they play, an arguement could be made that Roach should be making more tackles in the MLB spot. But so did Webb....so.....

You know I can't pass on the opportunity to chime in on this subject. On the one hand you want to 'leave what is in the past, in the past' but make a dig (however slight) at Lovie in the openning paragraph (bolded above). And what brought the response from Cracker was the dig by Mongo. So if you guys want to 'leave what is in the past, in the past' quit making comparisons to the negative of the previous regime. Now that being said I realize that it is difficult, if not impossible, to do. Heck even me a Lovie sympathizer can realize that Trestman is better at things that Lovie was not. That most notably is offense....at least three games into the season it would appear he is. As Cracker said the picks/players that are not favorable somehow get linked to Lovie when the ones that do well, linked to Emery/Trestman. We've even had a discussion about Angelo (who I didn't like) did well in some regards in bringing in players like Peppers, Cutler, Hester, Forte etc. But Lovie needs equal credit for the positives that he brought to Chicago as much as he apparently brought the negative. And speculation is all you have at this point. The season is not quite a quarter over and although the team is currently undefeated there is a long road to go. Lovie's record is proven, Trestman's is still being minted.

I'd say mediocre at best. I feel the team swapped out Roach for Anderson...so far. I even picked Anderson early on to be the 'standout' on the team and so far hasn't done it. Just to give a comparsion so far this season: Anderson 19 tack 0 sacks, DJ Williams 10 tack 2 sacks, Briggs 24 tack 1 sack and Nick Roach 17 tack 0 sacks. So you see, it was a virtual swap out. And to put into perspective, Urlacher had 14 tackles after three games last year.

IF Wright were to go, why couldn't the team entertain the idea of putting Tillman in at Safety? Ala Charles Woodson? I know Tillman is probably seriously thinking retirement but maybe this would encouage him to stick around? And with the development of Frey maybe he could move into Tillman's vacated spot? Just a thought. And FWIW, Wright and Conte have been doing pretty well. Wright has been doing some effective tackling and had one pick six in the last game. And Conte had one INT and more near INT in the last game. I think a lot of the reason the teams the Bears have faced have been able to get sustained drives is due to the middle field coverage. That respoonsibility falls on the LB's not the Safeties. TIllman and Jennings so far have been sporadic and its no secret that the front four have been slow on their pressure.

Ok never mind. I thought it was Frey or Hardin. Tried to give you the benefit of the doubt. Heck I picked Anderson to be the one, so far....pfffft. Average at best.

I think we discussed the "dark horse" contenders earlier in the season and I don't want to necessarily tip my hat to *unnamed poster*, but I believe he picked Frey (at least I think it was him) to be that candidate. So far, Frey has been pretty impressive. I see a 'Corey Graham' type of player in the making and there almost is no doubt he (Frey) is the current starting Nickel back. IMHO, he is defintitely the better option over Hayden. From what I've seen when he's playing, he's been around the ball in almost each instance. So far, of the 13 total tackles that he's got for the season 6 were made during the game with Pitt. And to put things in perspective; Briggs, Tillman and Jennings each have 24, 14 and 14 tackles respectively.

Agreed. If he still isn't doing anything come about week 10-12 then maybe the discussion is warranted. For now, and especially with the loss of Melton, WAY too early.

Right now Ndamakong Suh is saying to himself; 'So Cutler won't slide out of the pocket eh?'.

Sorry I know Bleacher Report isn't a "source" but saw this article and smiled at remembering the play. Don't do it again Jay. http://m.bleacherreport.com/articles/17837...n=chicago-bears

Whew.... Was afraid I actually had jinxed the Bengals buy they managed to pull it off. Nice work guys.

I take it back... Someone delete this thread!

Up 14-0 in the first 5 mins! Go Bengals!!!

Hmmm, well I'm married to one...but that doesn't count. I should have had her take some pics last night. She went to a bachellorette party. But overall, yeah there is a decent representation of good looking ladies up here. It's not Arizona, Texas or Cali but it holds its own.

You may want to check in as this game is in the early evening I'll have a chance at libations. I have a feeling I'll come back to vent and say most of what you wrote below. There is a possibility that a few of my buds that are Steelers fans (yes we have those here too) will be around so I'll be especially lit.

Do I lose my Bear fan membership if I feel a loss is in the air? By three?

I'll be the first to tell you that I don't know a lot about how contracts work and all that jazz but from a layman's perspective here are my intial thoughts. I always believe you pay premium for skill and proven players. By "skill" I mean; QB, RB, WR, CB and Safety. Proven players are players who are veteran and have been solid/consistent performers. If those players are on your team, you take care of them. That being said if the draft were today....or based off the first two weeks of the season....I would probably go CB (Tillman's getting old), RB (unless Ford shows something special), QB? or WR (Marshall is suddenly showing wear and tear - back problems today), and maybe DT/DE. Although the team just drafted a few and I would be curious to see how they pan out. Obviously the big problem right now is that its only been two weeks and way too much season is left to make a strong determination. Will the team resigh Jay? If not then QB goes up in priority. What if Forte gets hurt real bad, what if Marshall comes and goes because of injury. What if Melton picks up the pace and Jay stinks? Should the team pay for Melton and not Cutler? Way too many 'what ifs' this early in the year.

Hmmm, maybe I'll sit him.... Hold on! I play you this weekend! It may be "desolate" up here, but I wasn't born yesterday.

Sure. Dang look alike unis. I knew that and forgot. Anyhow, injuries are injuries.

What about Paea? He's holding his own. Should help in not putting a premium on DT. Especially if Melton comes around.

I was thinking back when AP played for A&M and recall he had an issue with injuries for most of his career. Because I couldn't recall specifics I checked out Wikipedia, here's a synopsis of what I found: Freshman: Dislocated shoulder. Had surgery at end of season to strengthen the shoudler Sophomore: High ankle sprain. We all know how those malinger and according to Wikipedia, missed the first 4 games but still rushed for over 1,000 yds that season Junior: Broken collar bone where he was unable to play in seven games. He passed on his Senior year to go into the draft. Where he became the player we know today. Of course we all are aware of his more recent ACL/MCL tear. What might be mistaken in this case are pain tolerance and injury plagued. Although an arguement could be made that AP has been "oft injured" he certainly plays through it more than many other players would. Sweetness probably suffered from a lot more injury than he cared to admit. With his running style he had to be hurting more than he would own up to. AP is the same way. TRich may not have that level of tolerance. Time will tell.