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That's the way I remember it. I think there was even a joke going around about Graham bangin Lovie's wife.

I ignore all articles that have Smith in the title. I simply pretend he is NOT here anymore. I've gone numb to him. Hope Forte is on the right track and that he is healthy.

The key word in your statement is "solid." I agree; often you can get solid players. But rarely do you get superstars who don't have a little bit of "me first" in them, maybe more. Randy Moss sure seems to be doing fine in New England. Terrell Owens sure seems to do well when his teams are winning. That is a cop-out and simply not true, TO was throwing McNabb under the bus after a Championship run in which he got the ball often. Both have no issues getting along with teammates while ON the field. While I’ll agree on Moss, TO has proven to be a different story. He’s completely clueless to his surroundings. I think it goes a little deeper than being a prima dona. TO simply does not know right from wrong on how to interact with men. He’s more like a bitch in a beauty parlor. That's what I care about. I'm not saying they'll be perfect, but neither has punched a teammate in the face like another person on our team. None has helped split the team against another teammate. Again, TO has been accused of being a locker room divider wherever he has been. It’s been talked about in detail in SF, Philly and Dallas. The point is, EACH year those two stars were available, the Bears needed WR help in a VERY bad way. Each year they were ignored...much like the team seems to ignore the OL. Disagree with our team addressing needs of OL and WR. The team has tried, but failed. That’s more of an indictment on JA’s talent evaluation or the coaching staff’s ability to get production out of players. Moose went back to Carolina and had good stats again. We have a starting left tackle playing for the Cards and another Starting right tackle playing for the Cowboys. (Both playoff teams) I’m more convinced than ever we have a bunch of bumbling idiots running this team. I’m leaning toward Lovie and below, as I think JA has done at least an average job. I think the positions have been addressed, just miserably

Yes and yes.

Gotta go my own way on this. You know it would be cool if everyone agreed and got along all the time, but it would be boring as hell too. Butkus, Sayers and Urlacher have the right to say what they want. If they want to spar, let them. I personally like the feistiness. It shows people care. Sayers and Butkus have a loyalty to the franchise and each other, while Url has the loyalty to the franchise and his teammates. What will this do, other than motivate the team?

I agree and have a big problem with this as well. See if the guys pick up what you are teaching before you teach them something new. It must translate to the playing field. Everyone knows Wright was drafted to play FS. Play him there! As of now, he's the only player we have that is a league average FS.(and we don't even know that yet) We have 6 other SS's on the roster that we know aren't good FS's. This jackassery has got to stop. Problem with the D these last few years is the same idiot at the top of the chain. Too many men in shorts and too many square pegs in round holes.

indeed

Who is your most hated Bears player of all time? RW McQuarters - I'll never forget the game he cost us by begging for the lateral instead of throwing the block that would have scored the TD. Who is your most loved Bears player of all time? 100% Sweetness. He's my all-time hero.

We have some safeties that will lay the wood on you now. I've been wanting that since Harris/Brown combo'd. Harris, Wright, Afalava and Steltz are all hitters. Maybe they'll fuel each other as a unit. Glad to see Chris back, but only as a SS. I think it may be the end of the road for Bullocks and Manning.

Is Rashied still on the roster? If Barnes can play ST, cut Rashied immediately. There is no way I see them cutting Iglesias, so he's #5.

A rookie pay scale would be a great thing for the NFL. The only losers in this are the rookies and their agents. Here are the benefits: Teams would be able to slot their pick and sign them relatively easy. Teams would have players signed and in camp, on time. Teams would be able to part ways with a JaMarcus Russell type player. More money out of the pie goes to the veteran players who have earned it. Can you imagine the trades that would occur? Teams would be more likely to try to trade up again. As of now you have the quad whammy of paying a rookie a huge amount of money, he may be a bust, you’ve given a ton of picks to move up and you can’t get rid of him. At least with the rookie scale, you don’t get creamed on money and saddled with JaMarcus Russell. Most important for the NFL as a whole: if the rookies come in and have to earn their stripes, we will see greater work ethic out of our young players trying to get their big payday. It will funnel down through the college ranks as well. It may even get rid of some of the entourages a little sooner with athletes thinking they haven’t earned their nest egg yet. So many positives, so little negatives.

I'm sure when they look at the last 2 years of film on him, his value will be pretty close to set by that. They'll know by the play or what everyone else is doing if he is grading well in his matchups.

I actually believe it this time. I think with the mandate they were given; it more than likely had the stipulation that they not mortgage the future in an attempt to keep their jobs. So we'll have a friendly wager??

I wanted Suggs, but his 40 time wasn't good enough for team, "Men in Shorts".

Totally agree. I was on a jury where they had less evidence. We were told all we had to do to convict was believe the testimony of the victim. We unfortunately did not convict due to conflicting jurors. But, after the case was over, the judge summoned us to a private meeting with the defense atty and prosecutor and asked how we came to our conclusion. The prosecutor made notes of his failure, re-tried the bastard and he got 90 years. If you or I was Big Ben, we'd be in the slammer.

I actually like the way the schedule plays out for us. It's a softer at the front, which will allow the offense to get some continuity against some weaker opponents. It ends brutally the last four games. Hopefully we are playing for a playoff spot and are firing on all cylinders by then.

Scoring points is not what I'm concerned about with Martz. It's the position he can put the defense and his QB in. If we can get to the other teams QB this year, I have hope. Otherwise, it could be a long ugly year.

What bothers me the most is that we only have 25 Angelo drafted players on the team. I am a big advocate of building your team via the draft. Does anyone have any stats on what the norm is for winning programs? I would think at least 35.

Man, I read that yesterday and decided not to post on it because it really pissed me off. I've always had the impression that Lovie has been in love with "men in shorts". At some point, we have to have "football players". You don't see Bill Polian drafting players and trying to turn them into something else. He drafts a safety to play safety and a tackle to play tackle. I use Polian as an example because he's drafting the same type of defenders we are. If you look at who he's had to replace over the last 5 years, it would blow your mind. Angelo is equally as guilty in this, the buck stops with him. I actually think they are co-enablers to each other. Isn't one of Lovies famous idiot quotes, "we'll have to see what happens once the pads come on"??? Men in shorts, sheesh!

Mildly disagree on this. I don't think Scheffler is a guage for Olsen. Scheffler and Olsen are the same type of player, but the similarities stop there. Olsen is bigger, faster, better hands, and better attitude. Rumor had it that Denver was going to cut Scheffler. (Of course that is just speculation) I'm not saying we'll get a 2nd for him, but it's not ludicrous to think it possible. I still look at NE. They have the perfect system to Olsen to play in and are probably salivating at the thought of adding that weapon to their arsenal. They have three 2nd rounders and a choice to make. Do we draft our TE and plan on him being a 40% chance of meeting or exceeding his draft status. Or do we take Olsen, who we know has great hands, works hard and has a good attitude? Sure, it might be a reach for NE to pony up a 2nd, but look at the value. JA still has the leverage to say Olsen is a weapon for us and the price is a 2nd. Either we get the 2nd or stays with us. IMO - if we traded him and didn't get value, I'd be more pissed than letting Alex Brown walk over money. I think Olsen is worth a late 2nd to 3rd. I would not trade him for any reason past the middle of the 3rd round.

Agree and Disagree Agree if Cutler returns to Pro-Bowl form. The price for a QB of that caliber is easily > than 2 of any other position. Disagree if Cutler doesn't mature into a better steward of the ball and leader of this team, then 2 Pro-Bowlers is good for them on Cutler alone.

Agree with not mortgaging the future. I will add a twist though. This draft is rumored to be ultra deep in talent. If that plays out in getting a little more this year, than next. I'm all for it, if the value is good.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/stor...&id=5062971 OK guys, I’m bored. Above is a link to an Albert Haynesworth “on the block” article. Here’s a guy that’s a beast when healthy. I salivate at the thought of having a guy like him line up next to Tommie Harris. Our line could look like a train wreck coming at opposing QB’s. …And he could actually be affordable, as the Redskins already paid him a 21 million roster bonus this year. Thoughts??

Agreed, they are not the same. Forte's ranking is based on percentages of snap, assignments and flubs. Also, given that he was asked to block a higher percentage of time, tells me he should have been more prepared to be successfull. Heck, being asked to pass block that much tells me, he should have been in the zone.

Disagree x 5 1) His speed is upper level for a TE. 2) He does have good hands, as stated in another post with stats to back it up. 3) The combination of size, speed, hands and route running make him potentially special.(remember he's young) 4) If he's on the team he will not ride the pine. 5) Teams will either want to trade him or not. Him being a free agent next year doesn't mean squat.