Mongo3451

Agreed. You can always grade them while trying to put them in a position to succeed. You can can play to their strengths, against NFL talent, for short periods of time. If their strengths don't grade out so well, you have a problem.

I'd rather go with our young prospects.

FA as well. Signing a FA like Faneca can change a lot of things and would only enhance our growth via the draft. Berrian, Rex and a potential safety will also be points of interest. And then there's the Turk....

I think we all agree he sucks. I think he will be deemed worthless in camp. No need to cut him sooner than that. It's sad that safety was supposed to be a position of GREAT strength last year. Now, it is close to the weakest in the NFL. We have to get some hitters in the secondary.

Agreed on all accounts. There is something to be gained by a rookie tackle learning a work ethic, technique and a nasty demeanor from a pro-bowler/SuperBowl winner. I also want Rueben Brown starting at RG next to Tait. Backups to be St.Clair, Garza, Beekman and another rookie.

Archulletta is on the books for 730K this year. Do we keep him as a cheap backup or is he worthless to us? I have my opinion, but...

Agreed on Brown and St Clair How did Tait play up to a Pro-Bowl level last year? Secondly, Max Starks doesn't even start for the Steelers. Lastly, I don't the stats on this, but how many mid round selections develop into starting caliber left tackles? We've got to get an early round LT. The draft is too deep, not to get a good one in the 1st or 2nd. I can accept grooming an LT only if he is a big enough drop off from Tait to warrant grooming. In any case, if you are grooming the guy, you do it at RT. No to Starks. Too expensive and not needed.

It would be OK if Tait went to the right and we start a rookie at left. Reason is; Tait is a natural RT of almost pro-bowl caliber. At left tackle he is average at best. Moving him to the right will tremendously improve the right side of the line. I don't think a highly drafted tackle is going to be a tremendous drop off. Especially given that the right side will be locked down. You only have one side that ever needs help. You can manage that while developing a player. Tony Ugoh comes to mind as a guy that did OK in a circumstance that was less than ideal, but got the help he needed and thrived.

That's why he's so valuable now. We lead the league in field position because they kick it out of bounds.

I blew that last post. But to answer your question Jason: I would not mind either one of those guys if the situation was right. I am just not sure if any of our QB's could keep them happy. How can Ocho be unhappy catching some of the prettiest thrown passes in the NFL. Sure they don't have a D. But what is worse? No D or no camera time for Ocho? As far as Moss is concerned. If we win, he will perform and make our QB's better. He's that good. But again, how could you leave the Patriots? Only reason I see is a bank breaker.

What else is "Lovie" Childress going to say??? Rex Grossman is our QB???? Jackson was a detriment this year due to his lack of ability to consistantly connect on the deep ball. IMO - Rex would be a huge upgrade on that team. The thought almost sickens me.

On Clark: The reason it was hard to utilize the two TE set was the weakness of the OL. Instead of being able to place them both in the route, one would have to provide support. This is because the D can now play a bigger package with our two TE's. A stronger OL will help, but the greatest importance is with some creative play design and winning some of the mismatches. As far as signing him now versus next year is concerned: is you get him cheaper this year than next. Plus you have insurance in an area that you want to remain a strength. I really don't think his contract value will be very high either way due to age and carreer stats, but he is really good blocker and also one of those locker room guys as a bonus.

Agreed on all but... IMO - the 20+ snaps a game are the only way he can succeed with his unique abilities. Otherwise, he will simply be a gimmick waiting to happen; adding value as a decoy/distraction only. It's a tough scenario to debate, because it becomes. "Chicken V Egg" I also believe if he is only a situational player that he may be more of a detriment than an asset, as the the regulars may be better for continuity and diversity of play calling.

Honestly, I like what you and Bradjock are saying, but also think there is something missing. Hester's plays for the most part are well designed plays for him. The reason they did not work is because he was not on the field long enough to put anyone off guard for the end around, WR screen or quick slant. If he's on Offense20-25 snaps a game he's no longer a gimmick, ALA Steve Smith or Wes Welker. I'd further propose since Hester has freak skills of HIS OWN, just like Smith and Welker, that he be used like Devin Hester. If he's going to shine they are going to have think for themselves and find what makes him great.

Spot on AZ54! I've been talking about BB's lack of stugats all season long. I think it's imperative to extend Dez Clark to ensure us a 2 TE package that will offset the lack of talent on the outside. Unless we sign a stud #1 we will be weak at the WR position this year. We might as well have solid guys who can fight for the catch and block. I stated a few weeks ago to watch how teams stack the box on without BB. I take that back now. IMO - his speed was the only thing respected by defenders last year. They play him over the top and it's all good. Unless he can go to the mid and deep middle he will never draw double coverage. Thus making it easier to cover other areas. That's why he won't be anyone's #1, even if he gets paid like one. Sign Dez and sign Bryant Johnson if he's available.(no to Stallworth) He's big strong kid and a decent blocker. He's been stuck behind two really good one's in AZ.

Totally agree! This draft is rumored to one of the deepest in years. Especially, with a record amount of underclassmen declaring. With five picks in the 1st 3 rounds, I'd expect 2 OL and 3 BPA.

How's that last part been working out lately??? Drafting OL is a priority. Nuf said.

I think the Franchise Tag is the way to go if we can't work a deal out. At this point, I think Berrian is too valuable to lose. Imagine who opposing defenses will respect on our offense if he is not on the field? Losing him will allow our opponents to creep a little closer to the line of scrimmage. Making any line, QB or RB improvements we make in the off-season moot. If we weren't still in the window of being a contending football team, I would say nevermind, as I really don't care for his lack of toughness and instincts. Right now, he's all we have that's both proven and effective.

I hate to say it, but if we got another RB to compete with Ced, I could see AP going. He is one of those players that people love, but he doesn't separate himself as a running back and Brendan is better on ST. I hope he retires a Bear though.

I think it is a combination of bad coaching, arrogance and injuries.

I enjoyed that video clip. I have seen him play, thus my point about great hands!! I think you missed my point though. Not dissing Hass at all. I miss the days of Tom Waddle. It always amazed me that he only came in in spot duty. Welker and Hass are completley different, that remains my point. Welker is rare and has found his niche. He'll never be a #1 reciever type, but will continue to be a leading reception getter. His rarity comes from his ability to get yards after the catch. He runs soooo low, catches everything and has jitterbug moves. I can see how he was overlooked in college as they probably didn't know what to do with him or played a college system. But Hass has the hardware from college and prototypical size. A higher percentage of NFL players have Hass' skillset than of Welker and there he can get lost in the shuffle. I hope he at least gets a shot, whether he makes it though may not be up to him. His talents may not separate him.(see Chris Zorich) It took the Patriots to recognize Welker had IT. It may just be that the are smarter than everyone else. That whole Brady thing in the 6th round still kills me.

Starting with the offense: 1) Start FA by re-signing Rex, Berrian, and R.Brown. Cut Miller and Metcalf. 2) Re-negotioate Moose or cut him. 3) Trade or cut Griese. 4) Target a good OG via FA. Also take a long look at St. Clair's grades at guard before overspending. 5) Absolutely draft an OT early. The draft is deep and we can get good value. Maybe even with the 1st 2 picks. 6) Draft QB in round 2/3. I like Flacco and Henne. 7) Draft RB in 3/4. BPA in round 5 on. On defense: 1) Cut Walker, Archuletta and RMJ. Possibly trade Idonije if Bazuin can play. 2) Sign Briggs if we can. 3) Restructure M. Brown and pray he stays healthy. He is still a key. (Have Payne bunk with him at camp.) 4) Sign a good vet FA S. If possible. One that knows how to hit 5) Start A. Brown and sub in Anderson. 6) Give the Samoan a chance next year. We need a run stuffer. 7) Get healthy a Tommie and Dusty back. They looked nasty together. The 45 minutes it lasted. On ST: 1) Prepare to lose Brendan. Special teamers can not hold you hostage on contracts. He's damn good, but we have holes to fill. 2) Design plays for Hester on squib kicks. 3) See if Beekman or Garza can long snap. Mannelly is the best in the biz, but a luxury. The roster spot may be needed with the newcomers on the OL. That's enough for now.

Hmmm.. Kinda like Rex, but worse.