Mongo3451

I'm more and more convincing myself that Poles will trade the nine. There are many similar choices, talent wise, at 10-20. An extra second or third could outweigh standing pat.

On looking at our current roster, who are the blue chip players? Here's my list.... Wright, Jenkins, Kmet, Moore, Allen, Williams, Sweat, Dexter, Stevenson, Johnson, Gordon and Brisker. I'm counting twelve. Polian says 14. We are getting close. If we hit at nine, it's 13 possibly. Maybe 14 will develop under the radar. IMO, 13 is a shock. Very cool future for our team...

Yeah, he's bendy. Everyone's worried about his neck fusion. Danielle Hunter had the same

I'm with you. Drafting a 3 tech tells me that Pickens and Dexter aren't it. Dexter did outplay Carter the second half of the season. We really need to see where his development goes, as year two should provide good growth in production.

The above is true. The rest is so so. I've seen DB's set the edge. The most creative defenses do it various ways.

I would never hate that...

I like all three, but Turner is the only freak. Verse could be another Mack though...

Back in the Lovie days, we took to many "men in shorts" players. When you draft football players first, it's a winning recipe. I love it when Poles and Flus talk about football character...

You gotta have a mix. The low ceiling guys push the high ceiling. Coaches utilize the shame to motivate the studs...

Something crazy though, is that IOL cost is on the rise and OT is on the decline.

? He probably has a restraining order out on you...?

I didn't see $

I am thinking of selling this. It's 52 years old. Anyone know the value? 24x36

That's your opinion. If one is highly rated by our guys, it's possible due to it being one of the three premium positions...

I bet our old boy Dave Toub comes up with something...

He's definitely a dummy, but he can be a Cordarrelle Stewart. Stewart was highly thought of before they figured out he couldn't adapt to the NFL. He found a niche as a ramrod. Jones can be the same for us.

Lord Poles...?

Yeah, I call him Lord Poles for fun, but truly believe he is going to make us a winner. IMO, he is the best we've had since Jim Finks. Below, is an excerpt from an article from The Atlantic I found to be outstanding. It tells the whole Justin story, without mentioning Justin at all. The whole article is great. Poles went on to say that every individual has his own timeline, and some players have to be allowed time to develop to “work through some things.” “But when it goes too far and too long, your locker room knows,” he said. “I always keep that in my mind. If I’m gonna ask those guys to take ownership of a bad game, a dropped pass, a missed assignment, I think that should be reciprocated from the front office and coaching staff as well.”

I'd like to enter the Caleb fray. I fully expect to see as many wow plays as Justin had last year. But, I expect also some rookie failures along the way. The most important thing with Caleb this season, and it's not even close, is processing and utilizing the entire field. That, IMO, is why Justin is no longer here. If see Caleb throwing people open and hitting deep crosses, I will be a happy camper. The first half of the season will probably be a lot of ball control TOP type of offense to protect Caleb. The second half of the season should bring a little more attacking...

Consider this. Allen is entering the twilight of his career. What if he sees staying as his best chance of winning a Superbowl? I would think that would drive his price down. Also, with us being in such great cap position, why couldn't we pay him if he's ultra productive still?

I don't agree that Poles and Flus are in win now mode. In following the theme of the post of win now, after drafting Williams, I think an EDGE rusher is key. Winning teams have multiple ways of getting to the QB. Dexter and Pickens should progress in their second year, which could be really nasty up the middle when you remove Billings in passing situations. Dallas Turner would be my pick, due to burst and change of direction abilities. I'm usually not the type to trade up, but it would be really cool to get into the second round somehow. With that, Poles can trade a couple of next year's picks to move up. There would be value in this move because some really good receivers and IOL are available. Lastly, with our cap situation still being good, a team might give us a good deal on an EDGE rusher they can no longer afford our one is simply cut.

How do you evaluate a 23-year old QB playing against 18 year olds? He didn't really do anything until he was 22, and then was throwing to Odunze, Polk, and McMillan with a top 20 OT the last two seasons. I thought he was pretty good at Indiana

I think we are better at DT, LB and CB just through aging in and knowing the system better. Everything else is spot on.

It's rare that someone mishandles a kickoff, let alone not have time to recover. If we're talking punts, that's more like it.