Stinger226

I looked at the NFL draft trade chart and saw what teams had multiple picks in other rounds. For pick 25 MIA gets 25+89 and we get 30+75+130 MIA has pick 43+ 75+111 Jets has 33+103+140+179 Pitt has 53+76+85+135 Jax has 56+82+88+124 I think the best shot would be 43+75+111 for 25 with MIA

With the group of players they have shown interest in, I suspect they move back 5 to 10 spots and still get a good DE and S and then the rest is a BPA scenario. There big board isn't going to look like the consensus ranking because they are more system oriented for the defensive players. It would be nice to have an extra pick in the top 100.

He's going to be 31 this football year, I doubt if he sits out or forces a trade. He has no leverage. He literally talked to the organization to change some contract language. Doesn't seem to me to be a failsafe point yet. He wants the sack record meaning he has to play.

I'm not saying he a football God, but he knows agents and has friends still working in the NFL. I trust him more than most football pundits or random fans. None of them get everything right sometimes his sources give bad information. At least his time in the NFL gives him some creed over some of these pundits that never played football or stepped a foot in a locker room.

Not sure why they would settle for less than they want for the best defensive player in the league. Several think 3 firsts or 2 and a significant player. My guess is a young cheap option not high salary players.

Was listening to Greg Gabriel and he was saying that all our picks were brought in for visits. . That all visits aren't announced. I don't think there is a league rule that says you have to announce visits just stay under 30. It's usually agents that provide that information and some are asked not to say anything.

So are we all in agreement they won't be trading for Garrett? He's going to be 31 this season, he's not going to sit out a season no matter how much he dislikes the Browns off-season plans. Of course another team may give them what they want.

Like you guys said, we can't count on him for the season when making moves. Since this is lying season, doesn't anyone believe they want the rest of the league to think they may take a LT at 25? We very well could be but why would we broadcast that to the rest of the league? They have 3 options unless anyone thinks Kiran jumps back in the race. Poles always surprises us in drafts but I don't think they are taking a QB, WR, TE, IOL or RB. Everything else is on the table.

If you look at our injuries you will see why we sunk to that level. As much as Wright had a lot of TOs, he wasn't a good coverage CB. Gardner Johnson made an impact as a free agent acquisition but wasn't good in coverage. Terrell Smith didn't make a game. Kyle Gordon had issues. You could easily predict a big problem from the start. They made additions in DL but Jarrett wasn't healthy for most of the season, Turner got hurt and Dayo didn't complete the season. Billings play nose dived from the previous season and Dexter didn't progress. Booker missed half the season. Our top 3 LBer were hurt during the season. Safety position has to be addressed and we need more speed in the DL. If we stay healthy we are already a better team. Caleb Banks has slowly dropped out of the first round for several reasons. He's the typical high risk - high reward candidate. Production has never been there for someone with his traits. The foot injuries 2 yrs in a row could be a problem. He could be what Jalen Carter was supposed to be or a high pick bust. Is that worth the 25 th pick? The bears will answer that question. In the second round they may seem him worth it. When I look at tape on a player it's usually a few games and highlights films. I have opinions but I don't pretend to know more than scouts that watch every snap of a players career and then they get it wrong half the time. I just comment on a limited perspective. I trust the bears to do better.

I agree with all of that.

I have listened to many pundits about this and 2 first round picks and a good player isthe floor. There is no reason for them to take a high paid player back. I would say they would ask for Rome Odunze, Luther Burden or Loveland. They have to take a 41 mil Cap hit to trade him before June 1. They have to deal with moving on from Watson in the next two years. They won't want a big contract player back.

Caleb Banks could be the best DT taken this year but he has injury concerns. He also has the same problem as Dexter, he plays to much with a high pad level. I'll pass as our first pick, maybe in the second round is worth the risk.

I see McDonald and Zion Young have been scheduled for a visit. I don't think McDonald fits the speedy DT but it only depends on what the bears think.

Does anyone recognize a stud player that will probably be there at 25? Now in a few years a few draft picks will be better under our coaching. I would say maybe Woods or Theinaman can be but neither will probably be there. Does anyone think Messidor is going to be one? I think dropping 5 to 10 spots back may be our best option.

Lots of things have to go right to get to the SB. We were one play away from the National conference championship game with a bad defense. This would increase our odds.