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I forgot to look did Tyreek Hill block anybody last year? When he is in game, you just give him the ball, who cares if the D knows it. Pace is building something here and until it takes the field we cant see the upside, but he will be a huge addition to this team. Think Tyreek Hill and you will understand.
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I got a stiffy watching this film. Imagine giving him 10-12 touches a game and you got this years Tyrek Hill. Howard- star runner and Cohen having 3 or 4 spectacular plays a game. Add a TE contribution with White becoming a #1 and we have a very good O.
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Evaluation is even hard for experts whose jobs are on the line for their choices. Only 59% of the first round become starters. that's a high miss rate. 29% are busts. At the SB this year there were 38 UDFAs on the the two teams rosters. the point is it's hard to know where the players are coming from but the bottom line is evaluating talent. lets look at Paces drafts 2015 White-- has been injured but still has #1 WR traits. If he stays healthy we will know this answer. Goldman-- big time player with some injury issues Grasu-- may still be OC of this football team Langford-- an NFL player but is not a star Amos-- an average SS but not a bust by anyones opinion Fabujuis-- a miss 2016 Floyd-- looks like a potential star Whitehair-- stud OL guy Bullard-- jury is still out, that is why you cant judge a player in his first year, they develop at different paces. Kwaitkoski-- I would have to stay future start in the middle Bush-- jury is still out but has some traits D. Hall- now becoming a FS has great upside Howard- the second best RB in the 5th round (he shoots and he scores) Houston-Carlson-- probably just a STs guy but we actually dont have this answer yet. 2017 Tribusky-- compared to Matthew Stafford- if it turns out that way, a huge pick Shaleen-- compared to Jason Witten-- I would be satisfied with that Jackson-- a potenial steal in this years draft if he gets back to his 2015 level of play Cohen-- a Sporles clone Morgan-- a player they spent a week with, I would say he is a potential starter at OG. Here is some UDFAs he has brought in Roberson-Harris-- the jury is still out but has traits Braunecker-- may not be a starter but a competitive backup- jury still out Callahan-- a NB that can play Glenn-- back and forth off the roster but still may be able to stike Medidith-- a #2 WR a major hit Timu-- a competent backup By looking at this list, I would say he can evaluate talent, but we wont know for at least one more year. We dont know where the talent will come from but I would say he will hit on two out of three on the players he choose. Here is some FAs he hit on McPhee- aside from injuries he can play 2016 Danny Trevathan ILB Josh Sitton G 30 Bobby Massie RT Jerrell Freeman ILB 30 Tracy Porter CB Akiem Hicks DE Zach Miller TE 32 Sherrick McManis CB Mitch Unrein DT Brian Hoyer QB Ted Larsen G 29 - Manuel Ramirez G Omar Bolden FS Sam Acho OLB Chris Prosinski By that list I would say he had a lot more hits than misses at good value 2017 Mike Glennon QB Dion Sims TE 26 Marcus Cooper CB Quintin Demps SS Markus Wheaton WR Prince Amukamara CB Mark Sanchez QB Kendall Wright WR Tom Compton T Christian Jones ILB C.J. Wilson DE 30 Connor Barth K John Jenkins DT Johnthan Banks CB Sam Acho OLB Deonte Thompson Benny Cunningham RB Chris Prosinski We wont know until the end of this year but i would say we upgraded our talent with these picks at a good value. I think the team he is building is going to be very good but is still a year or maybe two away from being a very good team QBs Glennon-Tribuski-Sanchez I would have to say this is a huge upgrade with the possibility of being great. RBs Howard- Langford-Cohen-Cunningham I think this is a very exicting group WRs White-Wright-Wheaton-Merideth-Randle-Braverman I would say this group could turn out to be very good TEs Shaleen-Sims-Brown-Miller-Baunecker this group could turn out to be very good OL Sitton-Long-Whitehair-Grasu-Morgan-Compton-Massie-Kush-Leno I think this is one of the team strengths DL- Hicks-Goldman-Bullard-Unrien-Jenkins- I see a lot of potenial here with a couple of stars ( R-Harris has been beefing up and I see him becoming a 5T) LBers Floyd-Acho-Young-Anderson-Timu-Freeman-Trevathan-Kithwatoski-McPhee-Jones this a very good looking group CBs Fuller-Callahan-Porter-Akumurimra-Banks-Baushy-Cooper-LeBlanc-McMannis-Webb We are throwing a lot of darts at this position and I will bet it turns out to be very good. Ss Amos-Bush-Jackson-Demps-D. Hall-Jones-Quarty-Proniski I see a proming ugrade in this area. Our team has been totally rebuilt and still may need a year or two to show its potential. I think Pace has put this roster in a position to start winning this year. Until it gets all thrown together, we have a hard time seeing it from this side of the fence. There will be a lot of good hits and some that dont work out but I am very optimistic. We are building a power running team with a west coast flavor Glennon and Tribuski we have two darts at board and could hit on both of them White-Merideth-Wright-Wheation, I think this group surprises us. TEs- totally upgrades our running game and red zone scoring, this could be one of our stengths RB- We have Howard with Langford backing him up, also Cunningham and Cohen as 3rd down backs , this could be a very exciting offense if Cohen turns into Sporles OL this is going to be one of our strengths and if Morgan is sneaky good with Grasu being solid, I can see us moving Whitehair out to Lenos spot. Front 7-- Hicks-Goldman-McPhee-Freeman-Trevathan-Floyd all star types Young-Bullard-Robnson-Harris---Jenkins- Barring injuries I think our D arrives, top 8 Backside- I think Cooper-Demps-Jackson-D. Hall-Prince A-Callahan-LeBlanc-Banks-Amos completes our D. turns out well. Pace has a plan and I think this year this plan comes together. Surprises this year: Bullard takes a huge step forward Cooper and Jackson become playmakers Robinson-Harris shows some pass rushing skills Floyd gets 12 to 14 sacks this year McPhee plays less and still gets 10 sacks Hicks and Goldman have 14 sacks between them. Offense becomes a power team with 2 TEs sets . White and Merideth shine, TE becomes a strength. Howard star and Cohen turns into Sproles. 8 to 10 wins, but remember I am an optimist.
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Before his injuries , has the best FS in the country. A great pick because he could end up as one of the top 3 Ss drafted this year. I know it has big questions but this is where you take risks.
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Different people drafting, think-Whitehair-Howard.
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Garcia is gone.
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We need to look at his two previous drafts for answers. Bullard takes a step forward and shines Bush looks like football player at SS D Hall becomes a Tillman clone at FS Robertson-Harris steps up as edge rusher White finally stays healthy and is a #1 I think we forget about players that are developing, many answers are already on the roster.
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He's going to take BPA, king is in that position. Look who we coached at senior bowl and you may find some clues. Do not be surprised if out next two picks are King and Jerome/s. He is a little small but a playmaker.
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Initially it helps our running game and better red zone scoring. He has some comparisons to gronk, if just close this is,huge.
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I think they offered a 3 and a 4 to move up and had to throw in next years pick to get him. . I read on twtter 4 teams called the 49ers. No one knows what happened and we,never will. I didn't like this at but understand why they did. Everybody is praising SF but at the end of draft they wont have qb for the future. We simply don't know how this turbs out for 2 to 3 years. 2 years ago Pace tried to trade up for mariota, he would have got slammed for what he would have had to give but now that would have looked like a great pick.
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If they end up being both good qbs, how is that not a win? If he gets it right , you not liking it just won't matter. Getting a franchise qb is sinply the most important thing, period
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They took two,shots at QB, its not always the same path to get there. Don't get me wrong, i don't like it, but we still have couple of days to see the rest of the draft.
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How,many 5'9" safeties starting in the nfl?
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It takes three years to value a draft. J. Clowney didnt shine until his third year.
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If we look at how Seattle got built, they paid big for Flynn and drafted Wilson. They has a high pick in Thomas but the rest of their dbs were late draft picks. I think we still have a chance to get 2 starters in the next few rounds and end up having our franchise QB, will we lok back and complain about this draft?
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He's got balls. Lets look at this scenario: We draft Quincy Wilson/CB. He starts by the 4th game. We draft Justin Evans and he starts day 1 at SS. D. Hall shifts to FS and is starting by the 8th game. White stays healthy and gets over 1000 yards receiving. Dan Brown takes over the move TE and between him and Sims have 75 receptions between them Floyd has 13 sacks and McPhee has 10. Howard stays a stud . Glennon has 28 tds over 3500 yeaeds with 10 ints. We finish 8 and 8. Is anybody stilk going to complain about Tribisky?
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I think he moves back several times , he did last year. Lets say he moves back 10 spots and still grabs a Quincy Wilson/ cb or Kevin King. Lrts say ib the 3rd round we grab a S , justin Evans or Josh Jones. In the 4th a TE, Geoge Kittle. In the 5th a wr, Godiway, niu guy. In the 7th OT Cameron Lee. As i look back, i get happier.
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I heard Gabriel say we were 25 points over draft value and someone on twtter say 170 points over. Im in vegas and the achcohol and lack of sleep puts me not in the position to check this out. If you look back at any qb trades, they never look good from this side of fence, but i do say this guy has balls. This is the guy he wanted and he got him, i will never like this but if it turns out, how many people on here are going to be angry 2 or 3 if this guy makes several pro bowls, im going to be saying how great this guy is. We simply can not judge this pick now. Lets say he sits for 2 years before he starts and we ascend to playoffs in 2 years and now have a qb of the future besides, how awesome will that be. Hopefully glennon is good and everything is win win situation at the the most important POSITION in sports . I dont lose my job if he gets this wrong but pace does.
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Let me just say , i didn't like it but here is how i look at it. You can't judge this pick today.it will be two years from now. Trying to look at the positive side, someone else was bidding for that spot, we offered the 3 and 4, if it was Cleveland, i bet we had to throw in the 3 next year to get it done. It was a little over pay, but not outrageous. If he becomes a top 10 QB, say matt Ryan, will we be complaining 2 years from now? I see glennon being the bridge, trubisky will need some time, so lets say Glennon is,good , we have two top type qbs, we trade him. If he development is,quicker , we have a competent backup that someone woll maybe give us a #2for him. If they got this right we have a franchise qb for 8 to 10 years. If not everybody loses they job. If will be 2 years before we ca n judge this. Another thing, with the way the qbs are dropping , they probably would took a qb with the second pick, so if we get a defensive stud , they got the qb they wanted. I bet they trade back and get an extra 3rd so we're still have , so,we have a second, a third and a 4th. 3 more players to get a s,cb and te? We will find out.
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That may be my most favorite draft. At 1 )tribusky At 2) Leonard fournette Bears. Myles Garrett More wishful thinking, we end up with Solomon Thomas Fox and Fangio has the new Vonn Miller
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I would like that draft
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Nobody knows anything, everybody's guessing. I think Garrett will not make it to three. If it is a QB it will be Watson early or Peterman/Dobbs late the choice will be between Thomas or Allen on the outside Adams. I would say Hooker would be in play but the injuries drag him down.
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here is the lastest one I did at Firstpick, also the highest grade Ive gotten I got one c and one b, I would have had to take another WR to avoid the Jones pick Your score is: 14825 (GRADE: A+) Your Picks: Round 1 Pick 20 (DEN): Jamal Adams, SS, LSU (A+) Round 2 Pick 4: Evan Engram, TE/WR, Ole Miss (A-) Round 2 Pick 19 (DEN): Patrick Mahomes II, QB, Texas Tech (A+) Round 3 Pick 6 (NYJ): Cordrea Tankersley, CB, Clemson (A+) Round 3 Pick 18 (DEN): Cooper Kupp, WR, Eastern Washington (A+) Round 3 Pick 43 (NYJ): Julie'n Davenport, OT, Bucknell (A) Round 4 Pick 4: Adam Bisnowaty, OT/OG, Pittsburgh ( Round 4 Pick 10: Jarron Jones, DT, Notre Dame (C+) Round 5 Pick 3: D'Onta Foreman, RB, Texas (A-) Round 7 Pick 3: Zane Gonzalez, K, Arizona State (A+)
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there going to save 3.5 mil and are up against the cap,plus they drafted Cris Jones last year and have the spot covered.
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He was released today by KC. Last year we offered him a contract but ended up back in KC. KC gave him a 2 year 10 mil contract last year. He had some injuries issues and only started 4 games. 2 years ago, he had 5.5 sacks and 36 Ts , 11 TFL, and 2 forced fumbles. since we had interest last year and he is only 28, I can see us going after him. What do you guys think.
