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I will show you how stupid I am and bet you 100$ this isnt going to happen. Say the word and I will send the money to Adam if he is okay with taking it. Anyone arguing about making a trade and then at the end of the paragraph agrees we arent going to trade for him has to be on something or didnt take his medication today. And I quote (But the reason it wont happen is the trade cost, nothing else.) That's what im saying. You agree with me, I listed several reasons and one of them was the trade cost and then you continue to try to argue the point with me. I never got personal in asking if someone saying the cap space and contract cost doesnt matter, maybe you're just having a bad day but that is not normal thinking. Do you really want me to go thru your posts and show you how many times you got personal?

Okay explain it to me how his 24 mil salary fits our cap space of 13 mil we have this yr? Teams normally keep 8 to 10 mil for operating cost over the season. 41+mil; next year puts our cap underwater for 50 mil. So now we have to start cutting assets to make room for a high end pass rusher. Kmet, Edmunds and Swift only gives us 30 mil. Plus we need to add the draft budget and operation capital for next yr. So at this point we are still 35 mil in the hole. You got me on that one, the contract and Cap doesnt matter. Dayo is on the team and has guarranteed money, I never said we shouldnt trade for him because we have Dayo, you are back to putting words in my mouth again. It doesnt take you long to get back into making crap up to prove a stupid point that you actually said we are not going to do.

So another member agrees, this is not going to happen. It will be a draft need next yr.

You just told me because of the cost of the trade its not happening. So we agree , they arent trading for him. To suggest a 40mil plus contract doesnt matter? I have to ask is pot legal in AZ? That was my only point to begin with, it wasnt going to happen. I could be wrong, but I havent heard any other members agreeing with you. I follow Poles on X and you can contact him and tell him what a great idea it is to trade for Micah. @RyanPolesBears Poles and I agree this is a bad idea, I have no power to make decisions for the Bears, but he does.

Just like anyone elses opinion, IMO, I dont see any chance of it happening. If I feel strongly about something, I am now suppose to use certain words? Lots of members have strong opinions on subjects but I have to watch what words I use? I have a 100$ willing to bet it doesnt happen. Anyone want that bet, we can send the money to Adam and sit back and see if it happens. That's how certain I am its not happening. Now let me state, I have lost lots of bets before because I like gambling but I also have won before.

You just like me dont think we are going to trade for Parsons. You like me dont want them to. Is it necessary to argue that (it could happen), I think its a wasted discussion. You literally brought up the best reason that we arent going to trade for a high end pass rusher, it doesnt get you to the SB. The top 5 are in what ever order you like Garrett-Watts-Parsons-Crosby-(Hendrickson-Bosa-Hutchenson) All were drafted by the teams they are with, first yr contract advantage. Only Bosa made a SB game out of those choices. I would like someone to show me a top end pass rusher that they traded for and went to a SB? Its possible there is one but in aint in the last 10 yrs at least. The only one I can think of was GB trading for Reggie White in 1997. Your welcome to try to find one.

I think its quite stated, he is going to go to a SB contender. If your Micah, you have some control over where you go only if Dallas decides to trade him. As much I think the Bears will become a contender this yr, does Parsons believe that? Who has the cap space and ability to absorb a 40+ contract in the future? We dont. On that list NE and the Raiders dont qaulify as contenders but both have great preceived coaches that may be able to talk him into it. Its a multi phased answer. We dont have the Cap space-everything is set for paying Caleb in 2028 with the contracts already constructed. We brought in a respected D coach that Parsons does not fit his scheme. Of course he is a major talent but who are you setting down to play him? You just paid 15 mil to Dayo and you are paying Edmunds 17 mil this yr. You can not get out of lots of dead money if either was to leave. We signed Dayo, Jarrett and drafted Shemar Turner. Have a preceived difference maker already on the team in Sweat. Traded a draft pick to get Booker last year. (is he kicking that to the side to pay out a 40+ contract? With bringing in BJ and drafting Loveland and Burder to go along with DJ Moore-Rome-Kmet, we are clearing changing the assets to offense in the last few yrs since we drafted Caleb. Are we throwing all in for spending big on defense now? I think the draft will decide our defensive players. It is just what I think the Bears will do and not do. If there was betting odds on it, it would be very high on not trading for him.

This article lays it out quite well why the Bears are not in the running for a trade for Micah. https://nfltraderumors.co/six-trade-proposals-for-micah-parsons/

There is a 1 in 34,000,000.00 chance I could win the lottery, but I would be safe to say that isnt going to happenl.

Its a GMs job to check everything out that is normal business. BUT if you look at all of his contracts, the stars of the team all come do in 2027 and 2028. He sets up outs the year before. Adding a 40+mil player disrupts all the work he did to get to the day Caleb has to be paid. He said he wants to build thru the draft. Trading several high picks to get one player throws that out the window. He made a trade in the second round this year to get 3 2nd round picks. All with the chance to be core players. I dont think he throws his long range plan away to get a player as AZ54 said would be a situational pass rusher in this defense. This year he picked up Dayo, drafted Turner who should be able to play in and out. Signed Jarret to help with the pass rush. No way he signed Grady and Dayo to throw away the plan of a 40+ mil player. The thought of a high end pass rusher is intriging but he traded for Sweat, 2 yrs ago to be that player and paid him which looks like a cheap deal now. He had a great first year and in the second yr was injuried with a dysfuntional coach. BJ has stated several times how good Sweat looks this preseason. I trust BJ's opinion. Trading for Micah is just a passing thought that will never happen.

Dallas holds all the cards, remember Myles Garrett said he would never play another snap again in Cleveland. Then they gave him his money and everyone got happy all of a sudden.

they have everyone's body hooked up to sensors and when someone is fatuiged that give them time off. Its the new advanced technology they are using.

goopd point, doesnt fit the scheme.

Poles came here in 2022 and thanks to Ryan Pace we had no first round pick, clearly the best round to draft a supreme edge rusher. Poles made a trade and got 4 first round picks in 23, 24 25 . Darrnel Wright (OL), Caleb and Rome, Loveland. He clearly is building offense which is the direction the NFL has been going to in the last 10 yrs. You only have so many picks and had we prioritized edge, we wont have any one of those 4 picks. Its the path he choose to take, and who did you want instead of those 4 players? It would be hard to say he has ignored defense with Gordon, Brisker, Stevenson, Dexter, Shemar Turner with high picks. If he has us to a point to be a winning team for the next 3 yrs, did he do it wrong?

So in conclusion this is just FF and this trade would never happen.

We need to see them play then we eliminate the guessing and assuptions. Poles built the team over the last 3 yrs, having a starter at LT allowing him to get a QB, WRs, RT, CBs. Because of a low payout at LT, he was able to sign OL and DL. It absoutley was a win win.

Its about the money it would cost, you can make lots of arguments about the talent, but it disrupts the next 3 yrs of contracts he set up to come due when Caleb is ready for a contract. It just doesnt work out.

I would say we got 3 yrs of average play from a 5th round LT. Plus a 3rd round comp pick. I would have to say that is one of Poles good moves over the last 3 years. It is hard to assume a 2nd round RT pick transitioning to LT in his rookie year has some growing to do before he may be ready to take over the starting position. Doubt that is at the start of the season. If at some time this year he is ready, then Braxton leaves for big money and no harm done.

I just addressed this in Tidbits, no use repeating it,(IMO) its a stupid trade.( TJ Watts just got an average of 41 mil a year contract). (JJ is hurt, generally teams dont trade for injuried players). ( 4 high end assets over the next 4 years) So instead of rookie friendly contracts, we pay guarranuteed 41 mil a year? Besides the 41 mil we would have to pay 15 mil in dead cap space over the next 3 yrs on JJs contract. To be fair, the money is the big problem, not the quality of players in the trade.

Well the (trade for Parsons is back). Pundits and some fans are just getting clicks again. How many times are they going to print the same story again. Not intended to be funny but would Dallas take Kmet and Braxton for Parsons? That would free up money to help pay his new contract. It would free up 13.5 mil against the cap, the problem is Parsons is going to want 35+ mil with a new contract. Just looked it up, Micah is making 24 mil this year , forget I mentioned that stupid trade.

When the Bears jumped on the chance to draft him in round 2 when I dont think that was the plan, shows you they thought he was a special player. Now he still has to prove that on the field, but we are seeing signs that will end up being a good pick.

Obviously I agree with your opinion. He led the league in catch rate the last 2 yrs for TEs. He had 35 less targets last yr than in 2023. It was because of the inept offense and coaching, not do to talent. I dont understand the notion that because we drafted a TE we should get rid of Kmet. Depth is a stength for good teams. Dumping good players when you are trying to establish a winning team is counter productive. If Braxton plays well that will be a plus for the team. As much as we know what Braxton is, Ozzy is still a rookie and lots of questions he has to answer that is not just going to show up in the preseason. With all the injuries we have had along the line the last two yrs, having 4 OTs is a plus. (as you stated)