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Watch us move down one more time in the 2nd...I see it coming. Accumulate a ton of late 2nd / 4th round picks.

Plus a 4 next year!

Nice move...get some of those picks back

AZ probably taking Kizer.

I'm just saying...for those that say we got hosed by trading those picks to 2, I'd say we would have been fools if we took a guy @ 3 who went would have went 15 spots later. He fell for a reason. He isn't an athlete. I'd rather take a chance on a QB who could change the franchise then on an unathletic Dlineman (who will not be a difference maker). He will be solid...nothing more. Of course, I was one of the most pro QB posters on this board and very anti Allen.

He was the one guy I would have taken with our pick. When he left the board, I'm more convinced we should move down. Question is, what player is there that would driev a team to jump up and grab. Usually you get a little bit of action with the early 2nd round picks (especially with a day to negotiate new deals).

I presume we will look to trade down and pick up a 3rd round pick.

What if we drafted Jonathan Allen? We would have taken him 15 spots ahead of the rest of the league?

I think Pace has been told that he is going to get his time to build things his way. McCaskey has publicly stated that he believes in the plan and they clearly signed off on the move the Bears made. Ultimately, they got the guy they want and it is going to take time to develop him...but if they hit on him, he changes the franchise. We are still a couple years away and by making this pick, we pretty much assured that fact and Pace isn't doing that type of move without feeling very comfortable with where he stands with ownership. I didn't like trading up, cause I didn't think we needed to, but none of us know, and if our scouts and GM graded him out as a franchise QB, you don't get cute...you execute and get the guy you believe in. Oddly enough, if you think about the guy a lot of posters wanted (Jonathan Allen), he went after 3 QB's and was taken pretty far from our pick. So if you think of value, if we drafted Allen...we would have taken him ~15 spots ahead of the next team that took him. Not that it doesn't mean Allen doesn't become a good football player, just that the rest of the league didn't think he has the athleticism to be a special player.

I'm not shocked at all. 3 QB's are going to go top 12. I said it months ago when everyone thought I was crazy. At this point, Kizer might be sliding into the back end of the 1st as well.

We have been in the same camp forever.

Ok...expensive price...but I'm okay taking a QB.

It has to be Thomas or Adams.

More reports that Tru might be #1 overall...which means they are taking Garrett and Adams / Thomas are probably who the Bears are debating (unless they go QB).

This is probably my favorite draft I've seen.

I would be okay with that...presume we would be taking a QB @ 12. That said, I think it is possible that 3 QB's are gone before the 12th pick comes up. Watson, Mahomes, Trubisky are going in the first round. I see at least two of the Bills, Jets, and Cardinals drafting a QB (plus of course the Browns with one of there 1st two picks). Niners and Bears are wildcards. I don't know if Kizer goes in the 1st, but I'd be stunned if the other 3 QB's don't go in the 1st round. Sidenote, If we did pass on guys, Pitt's QB impressed me a lot during Gruden's QB camp. Seemed very sharp.

I put us at 4-6 wins and see very few scenarios with us pulling out more. I do see scenarios where we are at the low-end or worse.

A franchise QB.

I think we will take a DB.

That is who I think the Bears will pick (if he's there).

That is a really tough early season schedule.

I think we are desperately in need of a franchise QB. I think we should draft QB's until we hit. Just call me the Jason of QB's...we need a franchise QB and I won't approve of any draft where we aren't taking a QB with one of our 1st two picks. And if they suck...go again in two years...and go again and keep going until we get it right. Now in this, we need to build a quality oline around them (which I think we have) and provide the player with quality coaching (I think we have it on the offensive side, but was more convinced when we had Gase) and of course give him the right weapons (Howard helps...but our receiving corps leaves a ton to be desired). We probably have the worse receiving corps in the NFL right now (I can't even factor in White until he proves he can be healthy and we know I have the same opinion of Zach Miller since he has proven he's never healthy...albeit he's great when he is). Meredith & Simms are the only young players with much upside and while Wheaton has some talent...he isn't anything overly special.

I really want QB early, but I will admit, that is a nice looking draft.

I still fully believe that we will draft a QB in the 1st round. I don't know which one or where we will pick him, but I don't see us not drafting a QB in the 1st round.

Agreed. If we trade down, I'd be open, but even then, I don't see how we pass upon the safeties / DB's available (if we did move down). That said, Howard projects to be a beast.